$7 at harry.com slash smoothly. >> i'm >> capitol hill, this is sienna welcome everyone. you're in the cnn newsroom on omar jimenez in washington. we're going to start with breaking news in southern california, of fast-moving wildfire has already burned more than 12,000 acres in los angeles county and strong winds are likely to keep stoking the fire with the national weather service predicting gusts of up to 70 miles an hour. i want to bring in camila bernal, who joins us in gorman, california where the fire started about an hour north of los angeles. you can i can see some of the wind in your shot right now. what do you seeing right now? what are you feeling right there on the scene? >> that's what i was just about to tell you. you can see it in my hair, you know, it is 45 to 55 miles per hour winds during the day, according to the national weather service. and you mentioned those 70 mile per hour winds. well, that's overnight and that's the biggest concern for firefighters because that fire spreads quickly, you can see here behind me this whole well area was torched by the fire. and so what they were doing here, the cruise on the ground is trying to connect those areas that were not burned to the areas that were and so the flames and the smoke that you're seeing right now, that is from a controlled burn. so it is a backburner that they did on purpose hoping to increase that containment number that at the moment is still at 2%. we are still seeing a lot of water drops throughout the day. so many of those helicopters just circling this area, there's a nearby lake and that has been extremely helpful for air resources. but of course, the cruise on the ground, also working around the clock and they're in communication with the crew was in there telling them exactly where to drop that water in this area. take a listen to what the forest service is saying about their concerns everyone of us is concerned with the wind that's a single most driving factor of this fire. >> it does it burns fairly frequently along this corridor, which keeps it from. there are very large brush component. however, now we have more light flashy fuels to the fire can move quickly and then when the, when lines up with the drainages and research ribbon right through them, it's it's definitely concerned. so that's what we're looking at. it. hopefully these winds that are forecasts tonight don't materialize to the extent they're supposed to, which is 60 mile an hour and maybe tomorrow will be more calm day and that's the hope that tomorrow will be more calm because already 1,200 people are under an evacuation order and there are others under an evacuation warning. >> so officials just saying look, overnight, those wins can pick up. so have your things ready in case that in the middle of the night, you have to get up and leave that is the biggest tip from authorities here on the ground as they continued to battle these flames. again, these crews are working around the clock doing everything they can to keep that containment going up and up. but again, the concern is the wind or the overnight hours, it is hot, it is low humidity, and those wind gusts could make the situation a lot worse. >> omar and camila obviously, you know, you've covered fires and for those on the west coast, this might not be be the best question, but i think for many people who just are seeing this in here, that the winds are going to make things bad how, what is the dynamic on the ground that the wind could actually legitimately effect? with those wind gusts based on where you are right now yeah. >> it just moves the fire so quickly that at times people don't have enough time to get up and leave. that's really the concern when it comes to areas that are populated or areas where you have structures, even if they're further apart, the wind just picks it's up those flames and moves it so quickly that you may not have time to evacuate. and so that's why there is this warning for people who live in this area to have things ready because you just never know in what direction it could go where an amber can just spread the fire. and so you have to be ready in case that does happen, especially when you're around a fire like this one that continues to grow in that firefighters are saying is harder to get a handle on because of the conditions and because of the terrain camila bernal really appreciate you explaining that for us and thanks for your reporting on the ground in gorman, california, stay safe. all right. shifting gears. the 2024 presidential campaign is kicking into high gear with the just 11 days until the first presidential debate, right there. boom, coming here on cnn last night, president joe biden and former president barack obama went to a fundraiser packed with a list celebrity celebrities from hollywood because in la, in a discussion moderated by jimmy kimmel, president biden talked about how dangerous he thinks a second trump presidency would be. now the biden campaign says the event raised 30 million, which would make it the single most successful day event. and the democratic party's history. cnn course upon and for so alvarez joins us now and now priscilla biden obviously had some sharp criticisms of trump over the course of this, but also seem to focus a lot of his attacks on the supreme court as well. >> he did the warnings war of a second, donald trump presidency. but this time is very much focused on the supreme court, the president's argument being that over the next four years, there could be vague you can see it's on the supreme court and posing the question as to what that would mean if donald trump were the president, take a listen look the supreme court has never been as out of kilter as it is today after the decision that overrule roe v. wade the dobbs decision, you clarence thomas talking about the fact that there are going to be other things we should reconsider, including in vitro fertilization, including contraception including all these things so you hear him talking there about reproductive freedoms that has been a galvanizing issue for democrats. and the biden campaign when they fanned out across the country to say, look, if donald trump is re-elected, it's going to put your reproductive freedoms at risk, and it's one data point in the larger argument that the biden campaign is trying to make. but there could be chaos and confusion and unpredictability over the next few years, if donald trump were to take a second term now former president barack obama was seated right next to president biden, and he talked about the values of candidates and that it is important for voters to take that into consideration when they go to the polls. but of course, omar, this was also a fundraiser. and so this allowed them to rake in more cash. they want to keep a cash advantage over donald trump. this was an event with $30 million that eclipses the march fundraiser from new york city and allows them to continue to build that momentum that they really want to keep, need to keep going into november and look again, raising this amount of money isn't going to win you in election by itself. >> but it doesn't hurt priscilla alvarez really appreciate it. >> thank you. i want to keep this conversation going. joining us, his former illinois congressman, joe walsh and miles taylor, former homeland security chief of staff and author of the book, blowback. thanks for joining us to you both. now, miles, i want is i want to start with you. what do you make of biden? focusing some of his of his criticisms of a potential next trump administration on the makeup of the supreme court effective well, look, i think it's a double-edged sword because it's certainly something that's going to fire up his base but you are taking a risk sometimes with independence on whether that messaging will land. now, biden's done it the right way by anchoring it in everyday issues. so not just having it be about the ideological balance of the supreme court, which is kind of obtuse for your average voter. he's talking about things that matter to them, like reproductive rights. and i actually we thank if if joe biden wants to beat donald trump, he really needs to anchor his criticisms of a second trump administration in those realities. i mean, omar, just a few minutes ago, you were talking about the wildfire and california. that's a perfect example because people like me have come forward to say that donald trump wanted to use disasters like like that to gain leverage over his opponents to withhold aid in the case of a wildfire years ago in california, trump didn't want to give money to california because he didn't like the democratic governor and the state. those are the types of things joe biden needs to point out. the biden administration, by the way, has declared this wildfire a federal disaster. mr. area. but those are the things if future trump administration might not do, if it's a blue state, that they don't like. so the more that joe biden anchors those criticisms and forecasts into realities that affect everyday americans. the more it's going to resonate and joe, i mean, look, as we talk about the supreme court anchored in some of those realities we saw maybe no more clearer with the overturning of roe v. >> wade and then the big motivating factor that had especially over the course of the ensuing midterms for democrats, do you still see that issue is one that is going to motivate people enough to put democrats over the top in november for, or enough to the point where at least hurts republicans in a significant way no. i agree with miles. >> i think the supreme court issue itself doesn't people don't necessarily get it. >> the makeup of the supreme court, it sounds a little inside baseball. miles is right talk about the issues biden's got to talk about the issues joe biden has has an enormous motivation problem and i know it's so interesting to talk about this race every single day. but so much omar is riding on this debate in nine or ten days because i really believe joe biden has one obstacle full and one obstacle only. >> he's got to show the american people that he's not tool, that he's up to the job he has to show the american people that he's got to do that initially here on a debate stage in ten days. >> and i'm pretty confident that he will and miles look one of one of the issues that i think it has been a central point in the biden administration and we so far is the situation on the southern border, and obviously, we just saw biden's recent executive order on that front to try and limit the amount of people that can get in under certain circumstances. but, but politically do you see that as legitimate political cover when it comes to immigration? >> i mean, do see it in that way at all, or how do you make sure it does not present in that way? >> well, i mean, i'll be honest politically, he's getting hammered on it right now. and the reality is, voters do not care about a policy decision and what the implications of that policy decision are. unfortunately, most voters don't understand the nuance of what joe biden did, which was significant. he made very significant moves at the southern border, which are moves that could have happened during the trump administration. some of them actually did happen during the trump administration, and they are moves that republicans in congress should be happy about. but none of that matters. if joe biden doesn't defend that decision and talk about in the language that will recruit independent voters, he needs to stand up for that. he needs to say he took decisive action. he needs to be very, very bold on border security in the debate and he can still do that while talking about the importance of a humane immigration policy and fixing our broken system. but he has to take ownership of that and he can't just to expect that by making the decision, voters are going to give him credit for it. >> yeah. and look, why don't one of the key issues i think when you're running as an incumbent is of course, you are running to try and get reelected in this case, but you also have to be present in the united states. and there are many administrative duties and responsibilities that come with the job. and joe obviously my mind goes to ukraine aid, which of course it has seemed to be increasingly difficult to get through capitol hill over the past year or so. and we saw what former president trump said at a rally this weekend where he didn't really instill confidence that that relationship would continue. but do you see that as an issue that breaks through with voters as something that voters are actually going to be dialed into, as opposed to what of course right now is important to him. and his presidential administration. >> i absolutely do, especially with the voters that biden needs independence people in middle look, what does trump say yesterday? trump said last night that he, again, he said this before. he will side with putin i mean, let's be really clear about what donald trump said. if he's reelected, he we'll side with putin. hill cut off ukraine. he doesn't want ukraine to win. he will side with putin. absolutely. biden's got to go after that. what's so difficult is donald trump is so manifestly crazy and unfit. and a lot of voters, because it's been three-and-a-half, four years, have forgotten about but how crazy and unfit trump is biden's got to lean into it. he is a threat to democracy. donald trump is, and joe biden's got to remind people of that every single day. and look, as you mentioned, you will have an opportunity as part of our cnn debate on june 27th, both of them will get to go head to head with the fact there's no audience. it will just be them two up on up in that studio. and what i imagined to be a substantive debate. miles taylor, joe walsh, appreciate both of you guys for being here. >> all right. we're falling a lot of other 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have you heard in regards to clashes in that area today or on the wider details of any pause the fighting there continues in rafah and the israeli military made clear they would keep pushing into rafah as they work their way along the border there between gaza and egypt, what effect this tactical pause has on that fighting, if any, will get a better sense of that in the next couple of days here. but the israeli military literary and prime minister benjamin netanyahu have made it clear that fighting there will continue. what's different is the announcement now of this tactical pause that went into effect on saturday from 8:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. on 11 and 11, our pause in the fighting along a very specific route from the kerem shalom crossing in southern israel, where israeli well, it says there are more than 1,000 trucks waiting to go in along a very specific route to the european hospital in khan younis, just north of rafah clearly humanitarian aid is desperately needed in gaza, the un has warned that 50,000 children there are suffering from malnutrition, warned of concerns of famine in northern gaza, and that's on top of now sewage and sanitation concerns in the middle of the summer months here. so any aid that can get in is absolutely critical especially as the us built humanitarian pier is not functioning right now because of heavy seas. the question now how effective will this be as you point out, an israeli official says that netanyahu was not happy when he found out about this tactical pause and insisted that fighting in rafah would continue since it's the civilian leadership of the country that directs the military. first, you have to wonder where the order for the tactical pause came from. and second, you have to wonder if netanyahu will fold under pressure from his far-right coalition partners and cancel this tactical police us moving forward, they have already criticized it. so we'll see how this unfolds. we'll see how much aid it's able to get in 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full swing last night in particular, trump challenged bite into a cognitive test the god, his white house doctors named wrong while doing it, take a listen i think you should take a cognitive tests like i did. i took a cognitive test nih docx rotting dr. ronny johnson. does everyone know ronnie johnson, congressmen from taxes? he was white now dr and he said i was the healthiest president. he feels that history, so i like him very much obviously talking about texas congressman dr. ronny jackson. >> but but within the issue of cognition and cognitive ability that it's been brought up with trump. and in some cases with biden as well, how do vote? voters feel about a particular issue? >> yeah, they've, they feel that both of these guys are too old, you know, a lot of the commentary has so far been on biden's age being too old. but the fact is according to the voters, both of these guys are too old. yes, a higher percentage believed that biden is too old to be president than trump you see 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many, many helicopters coming to do those water drops. and that's all again, in hopes of getting that containment percentage higher there are evacuation orders in place, about 1,200 people have been told to leave their homes. and there are other under evacuation warning. so authorities here just telling people well, to be extremely careful to have everything packed in case they have to go. the biggest concern is the wind, 45 to 55 mile per hour wind gusts right now throughout the day, but at night, they are even more concerned because they say that the wind gusts could go between 6070 miles per hour that can spread those flames very quickly. but 30 is just telling people to be extremely careful, especially during those overnight hours, omar really a scary dynamic to keep an eye on as he's crews work hard to get this contained. >> camila bernal on the scene tonight. thank you for everyone else. we'll be right back. >> next on the whole story the james webb telescope has delivered 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this exclusive look inside one of those detention centers cell phone videos of isis is brutal justice that the world hoped it would never see again. she might, mama amash shared for the first time with cnn these images weren't captured in rocco mosley 2016 they were taken in 2022 in the al-hol camp in northern syria the sprawling. >> dumping ground for the women and children captured after isis was defeated five years after the fall of the caliphate isis is ideology lives on here security officials warn it is a ticking time bomb ungovernable and hostile to the outside world you can see just how fast this places, more than 40,000 people are living year and the most dangerous part of the camp is called all the annex that's where some 6,000 foreign nationals are currently within we were granted exceptionally rare access to the annex by the us back syrian democratic forces, or sdf, who control the camp the women here hail from more than 60 different countries several raise their right index fingers for the cameras sign of solidarity with the islamic state do you regret your decision to join isis or wash she complains that the conditions in the camp are awful there are people in the world who will say, you went to join isis. you deserve it. you deserve it. what do you say to that? >> normally if enemy yeah women and children need me for the majority of alcohols residents are kids with ended up here through no fault of their own un has called it a blight on the conscience of humanity it is effectively a prison camp. >> are women and children are arbitrarily and indefinitely detained a group stops us with a frantic plea one of their sons has been arrested trying to escape the camp she's asking if she can get her son back, who's in a prison worker, you he's got me for monday need that youth march. >> we wanted to send them out, so the sdf wouldn't take him. she tells us once boys turn 12 here, they take them it is a troubling story we hear over and over again the sdf says, it is their policy to separate adolescent boys because they are being radicalized by their mothers and sdf raid earlier this year, netted this video of a training session for children inside the camp the sdf claims young teenage boys are married off to repopulate the next generation of isis fighters they say, may explain the roughly 60 births recorded here every month this is where some of those boys end up there. they are taken the orkesh rehabilitation center conditions here are much better than the camps, but there are only 150 beds and they are all full shamil chakar grew up in cologne, germany until his parents took the family to the isis capitol rucker, a shrapnel injury to his head has left shamil confused. >> how old are you? chem omega my without if you don't know shamil was living in our al-hol camp with his mother and siblings until a few years ago when security forces came into their tent in the middle of the night in colombia man came and pulled me up and tied my hand behind my back. my mom was screaming. she said leave him alone. he tells us i didn't want to go with them. he pushed me saying, put on your shoes, but i didn't. then he hit me islam is from dagestan don russia and is one of the youngest boys here getting messages. >> three to tiramisu it via mama hi so he's saying that he is just 12-years-old he has been here about three or four months. he was taken from his mother he doesn't even know what his last name is human rights organizations have said the separations are on a pauling violation of international law but the sdf, top general mazloum abdi defends the policy. >> no dukkha instead of these organizations condemning what we are doing and calling it a human rights violation, these organizations should give us help when it comes to our program that we have in place for years now to rehabilitate these children. but part of the problem seem it's to be that once these young boys turn 18, there's not anywhere for them to go, particularly if they can't return to their home countries and so some of them, i believe are ending up in prison necessity taken when he says, this is not a policy that we are following to put them in prison at 18 the reality is the goal is to reintegrate them with society but cnn has found that boys as young as 14 had been held here at the notorious panorama prison with an estimated 4,000 inmates. it is the largest concentration of isis fighters in the world. >> no journalist has been allowed inside panorama since 2021 until now so the head of the prison has asked me to put on a head scarf will we walk through here because these are some of the most radicalized prisoners they have a senior us official told us the number one concern at panorama is a prison break fear that was realized. in 2022 when hundreds of inmates managed to escape and i look inside 25 men sit cross-legged in silence cell is spotless the men we see appear to be in decent physical condition but tuberculosis is rampant in the prison and we are only allowed to look inside two cells you versus your worry from a british man approaches the great, but does not want to show his face i know advocacy groups called the us funded panorama, a legal black hole worst thing guantanamo bay in an interrogation room. >> we meet 19-year-old stefan uterloo from suriname. he tells us he was brought to the prison when he was 14, along with more than 100 other miners have you had a lawyer ever you talk to a lawyer i don't know about the big guys. if you speak, i'm other kids assume feeling know the truth. >> you don't know even why we are always punished as like five years in this prison. i were punished we don't even know what he's done. >> we've been in prison because of our parents at the sdf intelligence headquarters, we need british pakistani dr. mohammed socket, accused of joining isis. >> he claims he was the victim of an elaborate kidnapping plot. it says panoramas. inmates are abused so we live in torture. i live in fear when you say you live in torture, do you mean that you are actually physically being tortured? this happens on an off what kind of torture, like beating by the stick? >> by the gods to be honest, i'm just waiting for my death there's no getting out of this prison. >> probably never the warden at panorama called psaki claim of abuse false, saying quote, all parts of the prison are monitored by cameras and no prison guard can act in this way. the sdf and the us are pushing countries to repatriate their citizens from syria, saying it is the only solution to this complex and dangerous situation. >> but the process has been slow and many including western allies are dragging their feet in the owl rose can we meet brits, canadians, belgians, australians, and a couple of americans? survive, basically 30-year-old hoda muthana has been stuck here with her seven-year-old son for more than five years. >> i have to ask you, i'm seeing all of the women here are fully covered. >> a lot of them covering their faces you're not covered, you're wearing a t-shirt is that hard it was hard when i first took it. >> i would say for the first 23 years people were not accepting of it. hey, harassed us a lot. they stole our stuff in i had to stay strong and show example for my son born and raised in the the us, hoda became radicalized online at the age of 20, left her family in alabama to live under isis a decision she quickly regret it if you were to be able to go back to the us and you had to go on trial, potentially serve time in prison. have you reconciled yourself with that possibility? >> i always tell myself that i'm going to prison would be a step forward in my life if i had any time to serve, i'd server and not come out and begin my life with my son for now? that is not an option while the us advocates repatriation, it ruled hold is us citizenship invalid on attacking my palette, i didn't write now, she lives in fear for her son's future what do? you miss most about america i just want to breathe and moroccan air and be around people. >> i loved the people of america. they're very open and they're very forgiving and they're very they're people who gives second chances and i think if they were to sit down with me and listen to my story from the beginning, they would give me a second chance but second chances are hard to come by here for most repentance is demanded and forgiveness rarely given as the cost of ignoring this ugly crisis continues to mount clarissa ward, cnn northern syria just baked in america as biden and trump meet. >> and only cnn has complete coverage with unrivaled access and exclusive pre and post a beat analysis follow cnn for every countless moment followed debate night in america begins june 27th itself slowing my cancer from growing and living longer, or do things i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment. >> and with his scaly, i can have both because scaly is a pill that when taken with him and 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