judge jeanine pirrojean along with jessica tarlov, jesse watters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the 5". [♪♪] [♪♪] the biden administration isi now openly mocking americans who aren't buying into theirelec electric car scam. joe biden's fantasy of replacing your gas guzzler with an ev is short-circuiting. sails are nowhere near what the administration promised and most people don't have the green to go green.s but america's hard hat wearing transportation secretary is keeping the faith.tigi he is dismissing anyone not on board with the ev revolution as some kind of tech neanderthal.ca >> let's be clear that the automotive sector is moving toward ev's and we cannot pretend otherwise. t sometimes when these debates i happen i feel like it's the early to thousands and i'mpeop talking to some people who think that we can just have landline phones forever. the reality is that the automotive sector is movinging toward ev's and the u.s. can either fall behind china or we can claim the lead.en president biden wantt s to make sure that those ev's are made in america. >> jesse: going on to brag about his at-home charger which is a luxury that he is afforded but not the rest of us. >> judge jeanine: joe biden has spent $7 billion of your tax money and has produced onlyod seven stations and two years. >> there are more ways to moveer electricity than there are to move electric -- than there are to move liquid fuel. that's why my house in michigann i can fill our hybrid plug-in electric with electricity. obviously i can't do that with gas at my house.shin >> judge jeanine: truckers are bashing biden's ev push in thein industry saying electric big , sarigs are a pipedream. watch this.re >> there was a company in illinois who's going to put a terminal in for 30 trucks. the city says you can't do it,g you are going to use more electricity than the entire city >> our new trucks will have toew have a longer than usual warranty a l. they are going to add that into the pricing of the trucks which for smaller trucking companies, they are not going to be able t afford it and so they will just have to extend the life of their old trucks and become less efficient. it ends up creating more pollution.ds u >> judge jeanine: all right, jesse, you know, it seems the administration is in a big rushs for this one the infrastructure is not only not ready for the charging stations but it appears that our electric grid, as old as it is, won't sustain the electric charges. >> jesse: it's not.ic c my dad sent me one of those funny old man videos from the internet that's like what's thee difference between a liberal and a conservative? and itnser starts out, well, a e conservative does not like to eat meat, he's a vegan, that's fine. of a liberal doesn't like to meet he tries to ban me everywhere. so liberal doesn't like abe talkshow, conservative just changes the shadow -- channel, the liberal bands the talkshow. a republican doesn't haveo im healthcare, they see what they can do to improve their life. the liberal, give me stuff, freh health care, welfare, make my life better.bett it's about personal responsibility.ut we live our ow pn lives and make her own decisions, we are accountable and the liberals just want to get everybody inr society involved in their business. and i've had it. just because something is new, jessica, doesn't make it bettere i know a man who only drinks liquids that have been around for 1000 years. d only drinkris tea, wine and wat. should he drink gatorade because it's new, because it hasssic electrolytes, jessica? of course not. something that is new doesn't it's progress.s. things that have been around fos thousands of years are actually pretty good. look at the architecture if your see aroundch these greatat buildings, some of them look like they were just put up acoup couple years ago and they look like vomit.ou how about fashion? have you ever seen men's fashion these days, it's ridiculous. go back to 1820 in great britain, everyone looked like aa stud. [ laughter ]one hink >> jesse: do you think it's better to read a book or tostup stare at a stupid screen all day? b it's better toet read a book. did you know this, jessica? that an electric car is twice av heavy as a regular car? so we are going to double the weight on all of the parking garage is, the roads and bridges do you think the last bridge that collapsed will be a one-time thing? everything will collapse. you are doubling the size and the weight of everything that ih on the road.u th what do you think will happen to the roads? the mayor can't even fix a pothole. there will be thousands of potholes all over the country. this is what we have to face.th >> judge jeanine: thank you jesse. would you like to respond, jessica? >> jessica: such a rich diatribe there. there's so much in there. i would be fine if most men dressed like upper-class brits from the 18 twenties but there were a lot of people not looking so hot in 1820 as well. so fashion, the infrastructure, we know the biden a ministration cares about that. what else did you have thrown in there? the person who only drink swinet tea and would never touch ad gatoradeyo. >> jesse: my point -- >> jessica: i know what your point was. >> jesse: progress doesn't necessarily mean a new thing isv better. >> jessica: well, no, sometimes there are things invented that are terrible but s there are other things that are amazing and we should have a conversation about how youint consume things because you say you are happy to give this up so you just sit there with your big book but i don't think that's really true. any who.terr this is one of those issues where the administration does have a good answer, hybrids. bec everyone agrees about that.ppy so mayor pete -- secretary pete, sorry, mayor pete is so mucht cutethr. giv they know that the car companies, because all the ceos have come out and said we won't be able to make these targets. it's our aspiration to cut down on emissions but the infrastructure doesn't work for this and we don't have theve a appetite and they are too expensive for people. most people who are drivinggo electric vehicles are driving teslas and we know that tesla'sh are very expensive comparatively. so the hybrid route seems like the right way forward and irry, think that's what they should be emphasizing. the ceos of these companies would also be happy. >> judge jeanine: you knowe ca it's interesting, greg, is that the ev's are slowing down inid w terms of people's appetite to have them, event tesla hase ta suffered a slowdown in terms of purchases. so what is he talking about when he says we don't want to fall behind china?ap are wepe buying all of thee fo batteries from china to begin with? >> greg: i just have to say, ies just know jesse too well now. you sat down are going i can't believe we have to talk about this, and so you've just decided to completely derail the entire segment with two and a half minutes of magical nonsense. [ laughter ] >> greg: look. here's the problem. he should concentrate on the more urgent issues that we are facing in the world ofgi transportationeg. we have bridges collapsing, ships crashing into bridges,to f trains derailing, planes losing doors, people sleeping at airports. their shows you when you listen to him that sooner or later luxury beliefs will drain you of the energy that's necessary to actually deal with substantial problems. in the present day reality. remember, all of these thingswe are going wrong. this guy was preoccupied with how racist the roads were in the past. there's something else,'sab comparison to land linesou. no one advocated for bands for land lines like they are doing with gas cars. we did not demonize people for having land lines, we did not say you have blood on your hands grandma for still using your landline and we did not push our argument based on faulty science and faulty statistics that are all coming apart now. land liners weren't pressured or vandalized, had their places vandalized as a means to encourage them to change.al gas powered vehiclesiz unlike ld lines provide the foundation for the running of this country, your food, your housing, your work relies on consistent energy as much as we like wind and solar, it's not consistent and r with electric, it's great but it's an alternative, it's an option, it's not a replacement. and finally, to point out thet obvious, when he was talking about his electric car at home, he still has to plug it in. like a landline.ent. you don't have to plug-in a gas, ca tr.t hi and this has always been my issue as someone who suffersplug from charge anxiety syndrome, you are charging plugs, worrieda about your your laptops, your phones, your airpods, your speakers. i don't know if i can handleuffe another charging station and worry about my car. i already suffer from road trip anxiety where i'm constantly worried as i get older, going on long trips, and i actually do two or three hours drivingothe without stopping?ta so you are going to add to the -- add this charge anxiety, iee don't know a if i will ever leae the house. [ simultaneous talking ]r, g [ laughter ] >> judge jeanine: juliet, illinois would notoing allow foe building of a terminal with charging stations for these ipa guess 18 wheelers. they said it would overburden the electric grid. >> absolutely. and for th goe truckers this is important. if you think your products are expensive now, wait until theju truckers cannot deliver goods exceptfo they have to charge foi two hours, then they can only go 70 miles and then they have to charge again whereas today they fill up once, they do all of their deliveries for the day and then they fill up again and so the truckers have a very gooduc point ant d that goes back to yn pocketbook. we buried the lead on something jesse said. 's dad sent him the old man video, maybe dad is turning a little bit. i'm always surprised when -- it's like the biden ak ministration believes, and maybe they believe this is true, at secretary buttigieg is their sharpest communicator. but every time he talks unlike that doesn't make any sense. as you were saying, the government is not trying to give people money in order to getbeli them to leave land lines and byr cell phones. uepeople did that because it war convenient. it was convenient. and also families did a cost-benefit analysis and said it is worth it for me to haveebt this phone because it's convenient and i will feelrth safer. n oni wiaging progressio electric vehicles has beenthe fascinating. it began witis th you can save d on gas and that's why you shouli get an electric vehicle.er this was at the beginning of the biden a ministration. then it turned to we will literally pay you to buy these electric vehicles. here's all of these subsidies. now it's if you don't buy these vehicles, you are a flat earth through. >> that was a good point. >> thank you i really worked on that all day and i had nothing until that. 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[♪♪] [♪♪]♪ dr jill forced to do a house call after her hubby got it bad case of the polls. steam rolling the president, six of seven critical battleground states. trump also obliterating biden on who has the mental and physical fitness needed to be president. forty-eight% think trump is t stellar on both. only 28% say the same about biden. but joe's full-time caretaker m seems to be in denial on the polling prognosis. >> when these polls land in the white house and he's losing in all the battleground states. >> no he's not losing in all the battleground states, he's coming up even or doing better. so you know what, once people t start tohe focus in and they see their two choices, it's obviousr that joe will win this electionn >> greg: it's like thees negative five. joe on life support while trying to deal with the polling dumpster fire but they had to l settle forif this dude instead. >> in the end voters will vote r in their own best interest. they always do and it's why i'v always been more optimistic than the polls because voters thinkpm about their -- think their ownes economies are better than they were four years ago and they are getting better every day and that's why i agree with you. twelve pulls out and lost two weeks, joe biden continues to have momentum since the state of the union. >> greg: so there's some good news, encouraging news for the republicans but neverr underestimate their ability to screw everything up. i go back to the red wave. i want to talk to you about thiu because i think this is the biggest thing, and it's a portion. putting morality asidet is, the reason for the red wave was abortion and you could arguee bo that the border crisis, the crime crisis, our educational system crisis all came aboutbeca because of abortion. it galvanized single femaleo liberals to get out and vote and you end up with a party that is almost singularly about abortion and almost nothing else so everything else goes to hell. so my question is, is it timefo for the republicans tor let ito , let them have their abortion , they can abort all can they want but just let them have that issue because in the long term, engaging ends up destroying all of these other issuesdest and bringing this coi to the precipice because they cannot govern anything else. >> dana: i will try to do this quickly. >> greg: take your time. [ laughter ] >> dana: it's hard to set aside the morality of the issue because roe v wade was 1972 so for 50 years everyone talked about life beginning atif conception, if you are pro-life, the march for life and it galvanizes a political movement leading to the push for conservative judges on thely o supreme court, one of the biggest issues. the democrats, i will mention i what i said yesterday again. when biden tried to go after trump yesterday in michigan they had billboards and adds that said the if trump wins again, michigan families will face three issues, the number 1 issue they wrote is a portion, a national abortion ban. the second of economy, the third immigration. so why would they do that?they it's because they know that it's the republicans achilles' heel. they've onofe elections and youa can see the poll that says nationally people think the most important issue is not abortion, down it like 2 percent. but when you look at really close margins like in many of these states where it's close, you look at pennsylvania for example. wisconsin when there was aia special election ol n this, the turnout in wisconsin where youth have the university, it was off the charts, you've never seen anything like it. the soundbite you just played, when i interviewed him after the red wave, he said you think -- i said you think abortion will be an issue in 2024 on the state pallets and he said if i have anything to say about it it will. thisee weekend what doke we find out?t? more and more states are figuring out a way to getabor abortion on the ballot including in florida. i could go on and on. i just think that theic republicans after realize thisan is an issue that no matter what president trump says, if hed comes ougit and gives a stateme next week because apparently he's going to, whatever he's going to say about it, whatever he says,he the democrats are gog to say he's lying to you and he's going to push for a national abortion ban and they will have plenty of tape to run from the previous administration when the president was in office to try to back that up. >> greg: what do you think, judge? >> judge jeanine: i think it's i a tough issue but i think it's a defining issue.he i think one of the dumbest things that happened was after the daubs case, a senator came out and wanted to pass a bill to ban abortion, a federal bill, which was absurd because he did not have the numbers number 1on and number 2e, we were just comg off the dobbs decision.the i think the idea that the democrats, who were going to dig in on this issue in any which way they can by making sure it is on every pallet, and you know what grade, even if it's not ona the ballotll, they are going to make it a part of their campaign. the fact that americans aree worried about the economy and immigration does not matter, they are going to speak tond t abortion and that is an emotional issue. e.i think one of the reasons tht nikki haley hit a chord in theno countrw,y was because she talkes about it in a way that it touched americans. she talked about it in a way where she said, you know, i'm personally against it but x, y, z. there's nothing the republicans can do given the dobbs decision, given the movement towards a decision that will convincenyon anyone of anything otherwise. the fact i s that it's not a constitutional right, ruth bades ginsburg and grade it was not a constitutional right, it's left to the states. what is your problem? this is a democracy.g in it going in your state, it'd ont the ballot in your state.it it is not a federal issue, that god. but in the end i think it is going to be a problem forason republicans and they have to address it in a way where they sound reasonable and not crazy. >> greg: speaking of reasonable and not crazy, jesses [ laughter ] >> jesse: thank you, thank you.i wa >> greg: i was going to go to g you but, jesse i would love tool here a long monolog in which yoo incorporate the same themes you had. >> jesse: my father sent meid this funnyeo video about aborti. [ laughter ] >> jesse: a lot of men and a lot of women in the media and ia the elite circles don't talk to young single women that much inw their twenties. when we do talk to young singlea women, we are definitely not asking them about their feelings about abortion. so i havion.e no idea what the electorate is going to do about abortion. it is so impenetrable to me, it's not something that comes up in conversation so we could just be completely blindsided by this issuuee because it's very thorny to talk about and even married women in their thirties, it's s still an option on the table for them and they don't talk about,u it to anybody but when they go vote, they might vote just on that single issue so my answer is, i have no idea. [ laughter ]ter] >> greg: it's a good answer. kno probably the best answer >> jessica: you should leadat with tha'st more often.ne >> greg: last word, jessica? >> jessica: i fully agree withon jesse that he has no idea andda also what dana and the judge were saying about this., i would say though that it's not as if democrats need to make upe the evidence for this one. donald trump said i killed row k weight.e. that is his legacy" and for thef religious right for instancee, t it's appearance able moralityhi issue, that makes him a hero. for nikki haley's supporters, that makes him difficult to way stomach in a lot of ways because we are seeing these six-week abortion bands like what will show up in florida and most people who have spoken to at yo woman know that you don't even get a heartbeat scan before six weeks. there's also a tremendous misconception about who is getting abortions and jesse demonstrates that quitetion beautifully, the misconception, because he said we are not talking to young single womenis but that's not whose getting th. majority of abortions.n in over 60% of women in america seeking one have already given birth tobirt a child. >> jesse: i said merry in their thirties, jessica. >> dana: no you didn't. t >> jesse: i added that. you lost track when i startedg h telling the truth. [ laughter ] >> jessica: so it will show up everywhere but not just becauseb utwe have a thirst to win or tht we don't care about life, butin because thg e american public iu telling us that they care about this issue. and for them it opens up a whole kettle of fish with reproductive rights, having control over your body y. and yes, ruth did say that.t it was a private he -- privacy issue. but that's how it appears on the ballot measures and that's how it should be. it's between youke a and your dr to make a smart decision for yo and also for what's medically best for you. c there are women suffering in conservative states, being forced to give berth to children who have no chance at a life.re: >> greg: alrighty then, straight again, saying no to♪ drugs after going all in on decriminalization. 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[♪♪] [♪♪]>> a blue state said yes to drugs and it turned into a total disaster. orl di again forced to do a totl 180 after turning their stateskd into one big skid row bygs decriminalizing hard drugs likee heroin, cocaine, methamphetamines. ghe state now recriminalizin and slapping folks withith potential jail time for possession. only took three years ofyear straight up chaos, crime, h homelessness, ods, all shooting through the roof. jessica,shoo or again, as easy s this would be for me to take aak big -- on or again, i won't because you have to respect the fact that they recognize their mistake and they changed it.>> j i'm so reasonable today, are tied? >> jessica: something weird isge going on. but you did say there was awa person who only drinks tea andy wine and water. t he's not real. jesse came up with him in the makeup chair. himughter ] no, mayor ted wheeler has been i through it. s he startedta out on the absoluto polar opposite side of it, talking about defunding the police, there could be homelessh encampments anywhere you want, open drug use. and now he sounds -- it was making the rounds today onsoci social media, talk of bill clinton's 1996 election and howt rihe triangulated these kinds of issues. you look at someone, even the most liberal of cities like aed ted wheeler, without the superou predator talking all of that, but that you can find a middle ground between wanting more cops on the street or being tough on crime and saying we can still have gun reform for instance,th there are these salient liberal issues that can break through and be married up with being reasonable and that it'serou dangerous for your city and your communities, and this is what we are talking about with the oakland city council meetingsee for instance or what happened in chicago. the citizens of these cities are not saying to you i woke up and i'm a republican. they are saying just give meve commonsense policy. i think it's fantastic that it's happening there and hopefully it will happen in more places. >> dana, has the drug deacan knott immunization expert meant failed or are we still going to see more experimentation? >> i would imagine experimentation. marijuana, we talk about abortion being on the ballot, mold -- most dates havemari legalization of marijuana.n it's going great here in newpa york city. but part of the reason is because the regulations thatt an went along with it and the enforcement, that hasn't gone forward. ann' ford also in california, ix more expensive to sell it legally than it is to sell it on the black market which is why they still have gangs selling it and huge problems so if you want to legalize it, you have to work out a lot of different kinks.di but i look at those videos andoe think every single one of those people had a mom at one point t who had hopes and dreams for their child and unfortunately these people livinosg on the street, but there's also another election component to this. and bloomberg today there was ab poll that saidlo on the issue of fentanyl, that eight in tenters voters in swing states say thats the issue of fentanyl is one ofl the main issues that will determine their vote in 2024. eight in ten. that caught my attention. you shall see more of it onu america's newsroomwi. i >> the fentanyl voter. to dana's point, if i was like , killed over on the street, my mother would come find me and she would grab me by the haire and she would just drag me backa home andnd throw me in the showr and say get it together.and >> and then your hair would comd off in her hand. [ laughter ], yo >> by the way, you know it's worse than drugs, opening your segments with the black-eyed peas. enough suffering? wheeler is still a kook andug always was a kook.he shameful during the riots, if we remember how he would not do anything for the police, and he was just pathetic. ivi don't give them a note, jessica. but thistc ioms a casualty of ta two ideas, either a war on drug or a war on society. you either in -- criminalize someone looking for something other than alcohol or you let them turn your streets into aise zombie apocalypse which is what happened. reader crim lies to drugs but we also decriminalized unlawful, uncivil behavior. you could haveyo said we are gog to decriminalize but you cannot do it in public. that is how we treated alcohol and illegal drugs. copste, as far as i know, i dont want to get them into trouble,yo they did not care if you didt drugs at home, they just did not want you on the streets. if you look at prostitution, yoo don't see prostitutes in times square anymore because it's all behind closed doors. those wall street or's are still getting their hookers, so the decriminalize without a system in place to just incentivizeze w what followed.t you had drug addicts clogginget, the streets, terrorizing families, destroying businessesn and then you add the influx ofal illegal fentanyl, which caused,d what, 100,000 deathsea a year, this is the problem with thee left, is that left to their own devices, they establish no limits, they can't be trusted oc these things. yoted u end up with a hellscapet could have been averted.th in america you should be free to do what you want if you aren'tua hurting anyone else. the left stops in the middle of that sentence. you know,. the left won't say in america you should be free to do what you want, but than the republicans come in and go if you aren't hurting anyone else.b leproblem is there's no republicans to say that.se: >> would that have worked, judge, if you had decriminalized drugs and then you would enforce vagrancy laws or enforce public drug use, -- public use laws, would that have struck the balance? >> judge jeanine: no. the question you havninee to ass why did wheeler and the progressives, after what happened in the seventies, thee7 eighties and the nineties, and the pendulum swung right, whyhy did,'s thing started swinging toward the middle, why did these progressive know nothings whos know nothing about lawent, enforcement and who haven'te studied anything about crime decide that they want to decriminalize drugs to create al iznew model drug policy for the country?the it doesn't work that way. drugs don't get here and theye are not just person at -- purchased by one person. they are brought in by mules.th the way they do it is in gangs or cartels. they need weapons, they need an, area, they t need a location tht only they control. it involves violence, guns,it weapons and it involves serious injury. i mean it's not as simple as, you know, i will take this and he will take that and we will be happy in our apartment. but it's not about that, it's about the fact that the progressives have tried to reinvent what did not needt reinventing. what made them think that if you decriminalize drugs, and theye a are watching the numbers ofgo u homicides go up, the homelessness go up, they areal also watching the drug overdoses , the exodus of business, there's no safety form families anymoreil. i mean how long does it takeit t them to figure this out? how many people had to die, howo many people had to lose their businesso , how many people hado be in a situation where they could not connect anymore with c their family because they were disconnected because of whatever these nonsense progressives decide they think is the way tot solve crime and create a new model? it's real simplesimp, you do something wrong, there has to be a penalty. a judge, i was a f narcotics drug -- judge for a year. if i saw someone who i thought as a career criminal, he was a second felony offender, that h means he had to serve a mandatory minimum, i look at this guy, i don't want to give him a mandatory minimum. he only had maybe a nickel vial of something, i don't know, int don't want to give him three an a half to seven so i will say to him, i'm going to put you in a program and you better keep yourself in that program becausa if you don't i will put you in jail for the maximum. but i had the ability and theti incentive and the motivation to track him for that whole timei' and i'm not talking about a three month monitoring, i'mmo talking about a six month to a year monitor. if you can get through it, i will let you go, but if you don't have the cudgel of jail, then it goes to hell in a hand basket. >> you are a great judge. >> no, i was a great da. >> fine, don't take my complement. ahead, gavin newsom telling joe biden hold my beer when it comec to screwing up the economy. 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[ laughter ] >> but now those are the people who will lose their jobs because you can't raise minimum wage without raising all the wages above it w. an assistant manager who made 2a will nowge have to make 25 or 30 and so one. you either slice off the bottom of the ladder or you slice off the top of the ladder. either way you get a tiny little stepladder, which dana has. so if minimum wage was seven, that's $56 a day, if its tenets 80 bucks a day.fo for a high school kid that's good money. for a retiree it's good for cigars and beer but for a dad with a family it's absurd. it's not about the wage, it's the mismatching of worker to i wage by so-called economists.g >> so-called economists indeed. >> judge jeanine: i think it's a the unions that were able to get the passage of the bill, i thinh that ultimately it hurts everybody. it hurts the workers who will lose their jobs because they can't afford to keep that many at $20 an hour. it also hurts the consumers, when you talked about the pricep going up. anand d there will be lawsuitsbe because nobody knows who's included. there's a lo t of confusion here.: >> jessica: the confusion part is real and i'm sure that's anes terrible place for the workers and the owners of thesehe franchises to bere in, where thg don't know what will happen tomorrow. i will sayi wi though, the minim wage has been steadily increasing in california since i 2015 so this jump is not as substantial. it's not like they were earning eight dollars and suddenly it's 20. i think it was about $16.50. to but you have to ask yourself a question. two questions. on e to greg's point, do we want a society of 25 -year-olds and up that are working these jobs? what can we be doing better to get them trained up to do something else or become franchise owners, those are the best stories, someone who worked at a mcdonald's from 17 and end up owning one. but if you are looking at this o for people who are earning and need to support a family, it seems like a pretty good deal. the average increase in price is not the 12 percent from burger king but around 5 percent but g people are sometimes getting up to a 20 percent wage pump which they need to support their families. uppoi think that's where people advocating from. >> but that won't help them if t the business owner decides to leave.ness >> jesse: talk about common sense, here's a democrat. ready. i will pretend i'm a democrat. let's build a bridge out of spaghetti. it will be great. we will save money on construction costs and then we will just pay the workers ae thousand dollars an hour. does the bridge work? it doesn't matter. an economist says the bridge will be fine.tter if you just build it like this you just slide everybody down. and at the end of the bridgevery there's a bowl of soup.is a everybody says that's not going to work in the democrats liketh know, we are going to make it work. everyone's like i swear to god it's not going to work. they start building this bridge out of spaghetti, everybody gets tangled up. sure it taste great while you drive over it. >> you get fat though, right? >> spaghetti makes you fat?etti [ laughter ] >> carbs don't make you fat,le that's another hoax, jesse.ing [ laughter ] [ simultaneous talking ] >> i love this show. coming up, the latest shocking trend at your workplace. 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[♪♪] [♪♪] >> gen z now treating employers as if they were on the bad date. ninety-three% of the young workers admitted to not showing up or an interview and 87% could not even be bothered to grace the office with their presence on day one of the job. greg. >> greg: these are employment heroes. did i tell you how many people i've hired i wish it had the guts and forethought not to have shown up? it would have saved me so much time and suffering. you think it's hard to hire? it's way harder to fire. the hardest people to fire are the incompetents because they: figure out how to gain the system.date they are so bad you just avoid them. y do you think -- has been onev enfox and friends for 24 years?b [ laughter ] >> that was a mean one. .dana? >> i'm wondering if gen x really screwed up raising these kids. h they can't even order at restaurants. it's a problem. i'm going to blame gen x and watch my mentions. >> judge? >> judge jeanine: i don't know whether or not i should say what i'm thinking. >> definitely do it. >> do it! >> judge jeanine: are they stupid? i mean i don't get it. first of all, they can't get anything accomplished. you say toener someone in a sto, young person, do you have this?i yeah, it's over there. where? i don't know, it's over there.d' show me. they are looking at their phonem while theyeo are talking to you it's like they are doing you a favor and i feel like the bad guy because i want to give his place my money. i'm done with them. [ laughter ] jes >> let me give you my money. i always think when you are going to an interview, they are not interviewing you, you are interviewing them. that's how i approach interviews is this place going to be a good place for me to work? what kind of people do they have here? what is this interview all about? maybe ybe i don't like this guyt maybe i do. but you need the face-to-face to determine whether or not you are going to shake them down andve never get fired because you are a dei higher. [ laughter ] >> "one more thing" is up next. 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