already passed. >> the white house has said repeatedly this is a popular law. if that is the case, why is it important to get out and sell it? >> it is not selling it. it is literally letting people know their rights, right? you buy a product, you are sold on the product but they are not directions on the box. >> think of it as an education campaign. >> dana: as progressive policies, president biden preparing for the largest tax hikes in 30 years and democrats spending $4 trillion on green infrastructure plan. so much to get to, kd, why would you announce a press conference nine days from now? my theory is you announce them that morning because the president will come anyway? who knows what will happen in nine days. >> katie: that is a good point and dana i have to give your credit because you were the one who predicted the biden administration would wait until they pass the plan so that they could have something to successfully towel to appear they are doing this nine days from now because they are going on this long tour where they will be on the road trying to sell the rescue package but there are a lot of questions for joe biden, you are being touted as fdr the most aggressive president in modern history. how is it that you campaign being a moderate and what do you think that people voted for you as a moderate should be thinking about? your policies, especially if looking at a tax hike? there is a lot that can happen between now and then especially with joe biden on the road and logistics how many questions will be asked, which reporters will get access to this, especially in the age of covid at the white house. lots and lots can happen between now and then. >> dana: josie, we'll complain that this press conference later for the afternoon and not "prime time?" >> jesse: i feel like someone save the date for a wedding that is a year and a half from now. nine days is forever in politics so what am i will see you in nine days, joe. give your best shot. the covid relief package is the most expensive package in american history in the white house touted as the most aggressive. is joe biden going to be able to sell that? no, he couldn't sell himself and the campaign. he hid in the basement and let the media do the cell job. this self job is off to a rocky start. dr. jill biden went to an elementary school in new jersey to tout the success of reopening. only two kids were in the classroom. the rest of the 17 students were virtually learning. after we showered them with what, half a trillion dollars? i don't know about that. then kamala harris goes out to vegas and visits a vegan taco stand? nothing connects more with the american people then may vegan taco stand. i don't get that at all. so joe is going to go out and claim credit for the vaccines and the recovery which he has nothing to do with. and then he's going to say, yeah, i'm going to raise your taxes peer that will get him blamed for harming the recovery. you don't slap taxes on people in the middle of a recovery. every economist says that. he will slip it on income, corporations, and capital gains. they will just move their money offshore. that is what greg gutfeld does with his cayman he puts it offshore. and then you tell people a year from now, you raise capital gains, they will just sell off this year and take their profits so uncle sam can't take them. that will just taint the stock market and you add gas prices surging to $3.50 a gallon by the end of the summer? the american people say so what, covid relief question work i don't feel it. >> dana: if i was the biden white house i would watch that for next thursday. you hit a lot of issues but you didn't hit one which is the border. joe biden today, he said he's not planning to go down. some administrative filmic administrative officials and department of homeland security said today, hey, guys no commeno comment yet. it wasn't don't come yet let them try to get this settled. i think the order issue will be one that they have to deal with next thursday. >> juan: yeah, for sure. a lot of people have questions about it and he has a lot to say about it so that is appropriate and by the way, i thought you predicted this that once he got past the passage of the stimulus, you know, he wouldn't talk about it. >> dana: it will tell you if i were them i would have done the press conference the next morning, what are your thoughts? >> juan: i appreciate that. i feel they can wait. i feel as if he goes out to the countryside and talks to the american people directly, i think this could kind of be like an ultimate note in that presentation. he has a lot to say and the going out there slogan "help is here, a shot in the arm, money in your pocket," all of those will be driven home. ronald reagan used to say, the first time i see it they don't hear it. it is the tenth time i say it that it starts to register. i think that's what you will get from biden. biden, to me come in response to what katie was sagging, you hava popular product to sell so this is like coca-cola or the ford f-150. yeah, they are popular but you see ads on tv for it and so biden is going to say 70% of the american people like this product. how was that a radical product? how is that not a moderate american mainstream? >> dana: there's a lot of questions they could be asking of the iran nuclear deal. the custom order patrol said 40 people have crossed the border illegally that they have caught appear they are on the terrorist watch list and governor cuomo commit is wide open. >> greg: first of all you talk about selling a product and the closest analogy although analogies are not perfect, everybody likes shoes but they don't know where they come from. the nine days, dana more than enough time to create the deep state. but i do want to talk about this budget and the raising of taxes because i think that is the big story. what is amazing is we know now that small government is dead, and it was dead before covid. and it's never coming back. but what makes the democrats so absurd, they can make recent examples of government spending, positively tiny and in near months, right? not only small government dead, but they government is dead. we are now and xxl government and we are looking forward to what comes after trillion, which is quadrille again. president harris in two years will introduce a billion with one in 15 zero's and we have to ask yourself the best questionable, what are the long-term effects of this tax and spend creation? it is inevitably, the money is going to run out in the economy is going to crash. who does that hurt? it hurts the children. the children that the left always clings to care about when they barf up these green new deals or waive children across the border. in here, you essentially guarantee a clip at the end of this tunnel. but the good news is and this is the good news, the left claims the planet has eight or nine years left, which is exactly when it runs outcome of the money. we won't have any money so perfect time for the entire planet to go to mars. and to katie's point, the people that were selling this on a centrist joe don't have to worry about left-wing joe. the people that they lied to have to worry about it. the people that are going to be taxed. the people that will lose their jobs. because the rich aren't going to be spending that much more money anymore appearance before i had a picture of the government shopping at the tall shop. >> greg: xxl tire is government. >> dana: tire's size. the border in the dh secretary wanting a record surge. ♪ ♪ it's not "pretty good or nothing." it's not "acceptable or nothing." and it's definitely not "close enough or nothing." mercedes-benz suvs were engineered with only one mission in mind. to be the best. in the category, in the industry... in the world. visit your local mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional lease and financing offers. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. ♪ ♪ [♪♪] when you have diabetes, managing your blood sugar is crucial. try boost glucose control. the patented blend is clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. boost glucose control products contain high quality protein and key nutrients to support immune health. try boost. we made usaa insurance for busy veterans like kate. so when her car got hit, she didn't waste any time. she filed a claim on her usaa app and said, “that was easy.” usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa. 1 in 2 kids is under hydrated. ♪ plant-powered creative roots gives kids the hydration they need, with the fruit flavors they love. and one gram of sugar. find creative roots in the kids' juice aisle. at visionworks, we want you to feel safe and we want you to see yourself in your new glasses and think, "ooh!" but if you get home and your "ooh" is more of a "hmm..." you have 100 days to change your mind. that's the visionworks difference. visionworks. see the difference. >> jesse: the huge crisis at the border is getting worse by the day. so what is president biden planning to do about it? not much, apparently. >> do you have any plans to travel to the southern border, sir? >> not at the moment. >> jesse: so biden had zero interest in seeing what is happening at the border. maybe it is because the dhs secretary warning we could see the biggest migrant surgeon 20 years. and also signs of new caravans forming that are headed our way and republican lawmakers are warning terrorists could be exploiting the chaos. >> individuals that they have on the watch list for terrorism are now starting to exploit the southern border. >> it is not just people from mexico, honduras or salvador but now people from yemen, iran, turkey. people on the terrorist watch list they are catching. >> jesse: and fox news' learning four migrants with names on the terror watch list were picked up at the border since october. dana, you can only assume that yes, we now have four on the watch list coming across, but you probably missed some too. >> dana: right, exactly. so what i think it will start to see a lot more of it as the may be others making the point this is not just a border security issue but a national security issue. we have spent a lot of time and effort since 9/11 to make sure we are closing those gaps and have loopholes and if that includes the one in the wall itself and terrorists possibly within the mix coming across, that is a problem. look, maybe it is only four, oh, really? it only takes one layer that is why this matters. i think you will also start to see the republicans talking a lot more about the biden border crisis, right? they will try to make this case. the administration i think ours mike is having a hard time because they want to blame for the border crisis but they don't want to give him credit for the vaccine. and that doesn't seem, that doesn't seem sensible. they will try to thread the needle but it's not lending well with people. >> jesse: greg, when you heard about people getting caught on the terror watch list might remind you the war on terror is technically still alive. >> greg: and what you were going to get, i think, is the best argument. the best argument someone has two dismissed this is to say that the numbers are small. by the absence of evidence is not absence of evidence. somebody said that years ago. when i am leaving for work and i can't find my house keys, it doesn't mean the keys are not my apartment, right? since i couldn't get into the apartment to begin with, the terrorist argument is extremely valid because primary strategy is to remain unseen. saying that you have found four is saying you have found a minimum of four, right? and there were 26 terrorist that committed 9/11 so you are one-sixth of that. you only need four to take down a plane, probably less. so to say that there are, you know, not many terrorists coming over the border is the dumbest argument you can make because you are relying on terrorists not coming over in an obvious way. just so you are right, lastly a precursor look at the drug trade shows since china banned fentanyl production in may 2019, thank you, trump, many vendors now use mexican cartels to get into the states. that is from npr. so i would argue that 40,000 people dieting a year, it is a terrorist act, especially when it's done on purpose. >> jesse: cady of the way it works is the smuggler send the migrant children through the caravans come up across the border and it distracts the border patrol and then the human traffickers, the drug traffickers and maybe even people on the watch list go around the other side while border patrol is distracted. >> katie: yep, you see that in texas and you see that in arizona and look the terrorist issue is a huge one. obviously we don't want terrorist attacks that are preventable. wuhan carina dome at coronavirus shut down the country and the weight terrorist have been able to do. it impacted every single person's life and we are still digging out of it. this is a public health issue in addition to a public safety issue. you have the white house today putting up the statement by the new dh secretary trying to clean up the facts as they would say. and it's full of all of these errors. they are accusing cutting up funding to the northern triangle and why this is happening when the former honduras, honduran president was arrested for wanting to send a bunch of cocaine into the united states. so the trump administration cut back on a lot of the funding, those being used for corruption, and they are willing to turn that spec it right back on. and jessie, you mentioned the kids being traffic, over and over and over again, they are being used as human shields for people to enter the country illegally and also for the cartels to continue the criminal enterprises which the mexican government is now worried about. >> jesse: juan, why don't you think joe biden was prepared for all the kids coming across? if he was going to get rid of the trump policy and let the kids come across and apply for asylum here, why didn't he have any preparations made? >> juan: well i think you have to understand it's a dynamic situation. and he should have been prepared and not trying to deal with it in a more humane, you know, a way to keep with the american values. the fact that we are a country that offers amnesty to people te situation. but to my mind, there is a problem at the border. it could get worse. it could be as bad as the numbers trump saw in 2018, jesse. but it's not there yet. and let's talk about radicals and terrorists coming in. you know, it just fuels division, fear of immigrants. it is a political game being played by people who are trying to blow this up and say, you know, we want to talk about something else and all the good that has come from the stimulus package, the vaccines. >> jesse: you are saying that we are distracting? hold on! >> juan: exactly, yes. and you know what, trump said the same thing. in record numbers. jesse, stop. let me talk. look, you are filibustering, that is what you are doing. you don't want somebody else to talk. i'm talking. what i'm saying is trump tried the same thing in his home state department said we have no indication that anybody who is a terrorist is coming across that border. this is why, to my mind, the immigration problem never gets dull because either people in the democrat or republican site of extremist, they tried to drive people apart and nobody can come together in 2013. we almost came together as democrats but people can't come together because he can't compromise without someone saying, oh, you're giving into the bad guys. >> juan: there are people in the media worried about flying f terrorism. i seem to remember that person is sitting at this table. >> juan: yes. >> greg: so that is a divisive ploy? was that a device employed? >> juan: yes come in this moment it is. let me say if you are worried about 9/11 type terrorists, you should be worried about the canadian border. >> greg: i'm worried about the canadian border. i can worry about all borders, juan. >> greg: you can tell people they are doing it for political reasons. i've been writing about it for 20 years. i have never done it for political reasons. >> juan: there is real terrorism and real fraud perpetrated to stir up division over the southern border crisis. >> jesse: all right, juan, it was fox news who made that report that those people on the watch list were caught crossing. so you are going to call our company a fake news? >> juan: being on a watch list, being on a watch list doesn't mean you are a terrorist, jesse. >> jesse: so if you are on a terrorist list, treat them like a regular joe, right? all right, you know better than that. coming up, and massive fake news scandal, "the washington post" admitting it just made up quotes about former president trump in the election. ♪ ♪ start with all the non-sports dads. narrow it to the ones whose kids who can catch almost everything. especially a cold. meaning, you. you're the one we made mywalgreens for. join and get 30 minute pickup at walgreens.com ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ excuse me ma'am, did you know that join and get 30 minute pickup liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? 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there is only one way, one source. the "washington examiner" nailed it. multiple newsrooms confirmed the scoop by speaking likely with the same anonymous source. it is like tracing cases of food poisoning to a single batch of rancid potato salad. just as easy to track and more disgusting. we knew this was behind -- one anonymous source gave it to paper a, network b calls the same source to get confirmation. then snopes, fact-checkers agree. investigative that kept the steele dossier going. so how can we ever trust these clowns again? they would do everything to destroy a person from a president they can't stand obviously an evil supporter. they push a light to help their side win an election. it's like biden claiming the vaccine started with him and no emergency at the border but the press don't just nod along but they take the lights and turn it into truth. it's not fake news, deep fake news and be ready when they use it on you. so even, juan, "the washington post" own erik wemple took his paper to task today. so it is obvious, this is a bigger, you did your them. >> juan: i think this is an effort to rewrite history. i thought to myself, wow come i think comp claim to repeatedly . that the election was stolen because of bogus ballots in wisconsin, georgia, arizona, pennsylvania. he tweeted out this lie again and again and again. >> greg: that is not the story here. juan, let me help you. define the fraud. that is not the story. that was the story angle, don't run away from it juan, that was angle being pushed. >> juan: i'm trying to speak to it if you will allow me. i think you want to change the story from a quote that got garbled because the fact is trump did try to strong-arm elected officials. that trump, in fact, is the guy who led a third of americans believe that this election was stolen. >> greg: that is not what this is a pilot. >> juan: that is reprehensible of any president in history because he created the big lie. >> greg: katie, the story as we show is they said he said, that was part of the lie in the whole basis for the impeachment trial and now, we are finding out it's pointless. >> katie: so we should look back at the four years of the trump administration come i really like five years when running for office when anonymous sourcing went to die because whether a russian investigation or this situation come anonymous sourcing it turned out to be. a lot of instances completely fold an entire her stories and narrative like the mueller investigation and second impeachment trial because of the story in georgia are a result of this. and this we are dynamic between politicians on capitol hill who don't actually have the real information about what is going on but they cite media reports. they put them into the record based on one anonymous source as if that is the truth. in in this case, there are other questions about who was the source? wasn't someone from the georgia secretary of state's office who obviously gave the reporter bad information. instead of following up and say, hey, can i listen to the audio of the call? they ran with it and anonymous sourcing ought to be for whistle-blowers and people from distant domestic dissidents from communist company or an environment where retaliated against. this is "the washington post" protecting a political operative because they don't like trump. and there was audio to back it up. it change the election. it change the georgia runoff, the impeachment and this is the pattern we have seen for years on end. >> greg: jesse come everyday we hear about something else that turned out not to be true. and here it is again. and it has an effect. >> jesse: the outcome of collusion, the imperfect phone call or how about when trump said an anonymous source that the soldiers were dead were losers. i mean, they traffic and anonymous sources all the time. i expected to hear from juan who has a prolific history as a hard-nosed journalist, as an author, and as someone who walked ohmic works in washington, d.c., and familiar with the ways washington reporting to expound on anonymous sourcing and when it is appropriate and how this really blew up in "the washington post"'s face. and people need to be more vigilant and do better reporting and heifer might have better sourcing. but we just heard won spin to make it a partisan issue and i think that was a missed opportunity for juan. i will just say i didn't realize how corrupt the media was until they do stories on me. and they do a profile on you and they get your birthday wrong, spell things wrong don't know where their hometown is peer at the simplest things that are so easily fact-checked and so verifiable that they blow. and profile, how do you think they blow up a story on foreign policy or domestic policy or an election? pretty big. >> greg: you know, dana committed stuff like this that feeds into the suspicion that things weren't transparent and things were not right about the election. >> dana: if the gist of the story is correct, you don't need an anonymous quote. in the slogan at "the washington post" is democracy guys in the darkness in journalism ethics might too. anonymous sources should die. that's not ethical. >> greg: you mean we should kill these people, dana? >> dana: please write that in a newsletter that i would wake up to in the morning. >> greg: i want to congratulate dr. dana perino, she was giving out injections at the cafeteria. >> dana: if you need a vaccine, you know where to call. >> jesse: you forgot how brilliant katie's analysis is. >> greg: no come i got mesmerize -- whatever a mom arrested for making fake videos to target her daughter's cheerleading rivals, next. ♪ ♪ people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill to lower blood sugar in all 3 of these ways... increases insulin... decreases sugar... and slows food. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. people taking rybelsus® lost up to 8 pounds. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking rybelsus® with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration which may worsen kidney problems. wake up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ please don't take my sunshine away ♪ you may pay as little as $10 per prescription. ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. this is the destroyer of ransomware. ah, my name's paula. i stop ransomware using sophos. if she told you how she did it, your face would melt off. i just told you how i do it. i use... we'll edit that part out so your face doesn't melt off. ♪ ♪ >> juan: this is a frightening story about the dangers of deep state technology. a pennsylvania mom accused of creating fake images of her daughter's cheerleading rivals in an attempt to get them kicked off of the team. the mom is accused of altering images to make it look like the competing girls were smoking and drinking. she allegedly manipulated the photos to make it appear that the teens were naked. one of her victims and the victim's mom now speaking out. >> it had actually been going on for quite a while. i just didn't know about it. i told her, i'm going to call the police because i wanted her to know that i believed her. i went in the car and started crying and said that is not me on the video. i thought if i said it, no one would believe me because obviously, there is proof in a video. the video was obviously manipulated. >> juan: katie let me come back to you. i want you to be memorable this time. a lot of these stories about cheerleading mom's going nuts, that goes back to the '90s and the use to make movies about this. but the big news now is social media. so i'm thinking to myself, should the social media people will be banning these people were kicking that content off? what do you think? >> katie: i know a lot of social media companies try to deal with these kinds of new technologies, especially when it comes to world events. so this is a war between onstage mom's going wild so to speak but issues of this in terms of say a missile that was launched and starts to work somehow. there are serious questions within the technology community how far this will go. but it is horrible if you are a victim of this. the bright side is if you do something bad, you can blame it on the deep state now so that might be beneficial to some people. [laughter] >> juan: dana my do you think this means there will be more pressure for big government to get involved and regulate what is going on with social media? >> dana: that is a good point. actually, as greg said, government, they will try to figure that out too. i look at that mom and she doesn't look like the most tech savvy person, right? what i'm thinking is if she can figure that out, imagine what could happen. i live in fear of video. i don't ever want to do that. but actually maybe it is easier than you think. >> juan: yes. jesse, remember that tom cruise fake video, right? people thought that was real? you can make something up about biden, let's say being at the border wall, jesse. he's down there, he's down there and of course, it would be fake. what do you do, jesse? >> jesse: well, to dana's point, who knew moms could be so tech savvy. she is 50, juan. she figured out how to hack an account and do a fake video? i'm in though mid-forties and could barely order the fight last weekend. so i'm impressed. and her name is rafael, is that a villainous name? you put the mug shot up, i was so terrified when i sold this woman's mug shot. i almost had to do what greg had to do last friday. i had to pee, she is terrifying. and i say that's a little sarcastically. >> dana: oh, really? >> jesse: this mom and her foxhole, she loves her daughter so much that she's willing to get thrown in prison to make sure her daughter has a slot on the team. obviously it is wrong and if it is true, she is a criminal so it would be best but it goes to show you the twisted way she loves her daughter. >> juan: greg, what do you do? what do you think you should do when you are right to freedom of speech, but it is interfering with the right of other people to get on the cheerleading team? they are being damaged and their reputation is ruined. >> greg: it's got to be illegal. can you put that mug shot up again? i am skeptical about this story. are you sure this isn't deep state of amy schumer? every time, it looks like they did something to amy schumer. but anyway, my issue is i will reserve judgment on the status because i look at this and i'm not sure who i believe than this. if joe biden, they can make a deep state of joe biden, they wouldn't send him to the border. they would send him to do a press conference and they would keep the deepfake and send joe home because that is what they really need, deepfake joe and deepfake joe fast. katie is right, this is about trying to deepfake an attack on russia from the u.s. and russia wanting to retaliate because waiting for confirmation could be too late and america's denial will be baked into that strategy. so that is the scary part. we will not lose a lot of people in combat but we can get newt due to deepfake, so that is scary. >> juan: by the way, i'm trying to do deepfake about biden at the border. coming up joy behar and the "the view" under fire for trying to spin left-wing controversy next up on "the five." ♪ ♪ succeed ♪ ♪ and so are lost for good ♪ ♪ and some of them are pretty flawed ♪ ♪ and some of them are slightly odd ♪ ♪ but many are small businesses that simply lack the tool ♪ ♪ to find excited people who will stop and say 'that's cool'♪ ♪ and these two, they like this idea ♪ ♪ and those three like that one.♪ ♪ and that's 'cause personalized ads ♪ ♪ find good ideas for everyone ♪ not everybody wants the same thing. that's why i go with liberty mutual — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 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