of the american dream and i know how that slipped away from so many millions of americans we'll restore it. >> we forgot all of the ways we are really just the same as americans bound by a common set of ideals that set this nation into motion into 1776. >> i've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like chatgpt standing up here. >> the reason why we shouldn't is very simple. it's the tenth amendment in the constitution. in the constitution which the states created the federal government, not the other way around. >> no one likes to see america with smash and grab in our inner cities. as president of the united states, that will stop. it starts at the top. >> joe biden's bidenomics has led to the loss of $10,000 of spending power for the average family. we can stop that by turning the spigot off in washington. >> this is exactly why margaret thatcher said if you want something said ask a man if you want something done ask a woman. >> i think unquestionably i am the best prepared, the most tested, the most qualified and proven conservative in this race. >> if former president trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice. please raise your hand if you would. [cheers and applause]. >> it was a jam packed two hours of debating and now you are watching fox and friends first on this thursday morning i'm carley shimkus. >> todd: and i am todd piro. so who made the biggest impression and who fell flat? christian tate standing by plus joe conshohocken a breaking down the media spin of it all charles payne to tell you who came off the strongest on voters number one issue being the economy. >> we begin with brooke singman who is live in milwaukee where she watched all the action go down last night. brooke, you were in the center of it also. tell us what you saw. >> brooke: hey, good morning, guys. that is right. it seems quiet here right now but last night, just a few hours ago, this place was buzzing, so much energy with the audience here and all of the candidates really wanting to introduce themselves to the american people taking the opportunity trying to have their breakout moments here in milwaukee. but you know who took a lot of the attacks last night? it was businessman vivek ramaswamy but he didn't hold back any punches. take a look at this. >> now is not the time for on-the-job training. we don't need to bring in a rookie. the. >> the last person in one of these debates who stood in the middle of the stage who said what ace skinny guy with an odd last name standing up higher was barack obama and i think we're dealing with the same type of amateur tonight. >> do you want to give me a hug like you did him. >> is there anyone on stage who would not support the increase of more funding to ukraine. >> i would not support it. >> the reality is that today, today [booing] >> ukraine is not a priority for the united states of america. >> the problem that vivek doesn't understand is he wants to hand dreck russia, he wants to let china eat taiwan, he wants to go and stop funding the israel. >> a professional politician, there you have it. so the reality is. >> you have no foreign policy experience and it shows. it shows. >> brooke: one thing the candidates could all agree on last night was getting president biden out of office. listen. >> should presidents have to pass a mental and physical test in order to serve? vice-president pence? >> well, it might be a good idea to have everybody in washington, dc pass a mental. >> our nation is in trouble and it's in trouble because of failed leadership and the solution is not four more years of joseph biden. >> we need send joe biden back to his basement and reverse american decline. >> brooke: yeah, so last night was also a chance for the candidates to discuss the top issues facing the american people like the economy, the education system, national security, and more. and why they are the best to solve those issues. >> would you support sending u.s. special force over the border into mexico? >> yes, and i will do it on day one. >> the most pressing need of the american people from a national security standpoint is our southern border. it is led to the death of 70,000 americans because of fentanyl. >> can't we all agree that we are not going to put a woman in jail or give her the death penalty if she gets an abortion. >> we ought to be funding law enforcement particularly in our major cities at unprecedented levels. >> more dmops the streets who are in the streets able to do their jobs without looking over their shoulder for getting sued. >> the problem is not going to be solved by more money. the problem is that these prosecutors in these local is the willing to do their job. >> there's one person in the entire country willing to do their job me. when we had two district attorneys elected with soros funding unwilling to do their job, i removed them from their post. >> brooke: so as you can see a really exciting night, a lot of fireworks on the stage. unclear which candidates we'll see but next month september 27th is the second republican presidential debate, that will take place in california so we'll see which candidates make the polls to qualify. >> carley: absolutely. so the next debate in 34 days, four weeks and we have another round of debating and i thought one of the biggest headlines is we all thought ron desantis was going to take all the incoming fire. it was vivek ramaswamy. >> todd: no. desantis got off easy. vivek has to be like dude i'm the new guy and you're attacking me but that's what happened. >> carley: i think they see vivek and mike pence spoke the most and there was a lot of interrupting, he had a message to deliver and he wanted to deliver it. brook thank you very much. let's talk about the winners and losers for that we bring in christian tate columnist for the hill. christian who did great and who failed? >> good morning, vivek ramaswamy was the big winner from last night. ron desantis, he probably got bumped down a notch. mike pence and chris christie they bombed last night and the other candidates didn't really move the needle much. but, yeah, vivek was the big winner. he said that he wanted defund ukraine, would pardon trump. he said climate change agenda was a hoax and he wanted to get rid of a bunch of these big government. he was unapologetic, really fun to talk to and i think this guy has a big future ahead of him. going into the debate last night, ron desantis was the number two candidate after trump in this primary. all of the news reports regarding this race up until now have really only treated ron desantis as trump as the two serious candidates. that all changed after last night. vivek is likely now the number two candidate in this race. >> todd: wow. >> reporter: he may very well have earned his place as a vp for trump if trump is to win a second term. >> ashley: he said he would never take a vp spot but they always say that. >> reporter: they all say that. >> todd: i don't know if i agree with you necessarily that desantis dropped to the third spot but i do agree with you in the sense that vivek had a great night and what i thought he did very well versus let's say a mike pence, mike pence's view, even though most of the night was spend with him talking and interrupting, definitely sort of gave a sense of like, we're not doing great but we could be okay in the future. i thought vivek nailed it when he said, look, we are in trouble. there's an american dream out there and we're not realizing it right now. let's take a listen to vivek ramaswamy. >> i'm not a politician, bret, you're right about that. i'm an entrepreneur. my parents came to this country with no money 40 years ago. i have gone on to found multi billion dollars companies. i did it while marrying my wife, raising our two sons, following our faith in god. that is the american dream. and i am genuinely worried that that american dream will not exist for our two sons and their generation unless we do something about it. >> todd: contrast. those that said, hey, you know, it's close, we're kind of wishy washy and those that came out like vivek and said we are in trouble unless we have a 180 and do it now. >> reporter: right. and in a lot of ways these debates are not necessarily about substance but style and vivek really nailed it when it came to style. i have to disagree a little bit about ron desantis. i would say he was actually the biggest loser last night. not because he did poorly, he didn't. he had some very good moments. but because he did not perform well enough, i believe, to defend that place he has in the race as the second, number two candidate. he was a bit under whelming and just a little bit stiff compared to vivek ramaswamy. and a perfect example of that is when the moderators asked the candidates who would pardon trump as president. vivek just unapologetically raised his hand, ron desantis kind of looked around and then sort of sheepishly raised his hand up to his shoulder. that's just a really great example of the contrast between these two candidates. and at the end in his closing arguments, vivek said a few lines. he said god is real, there are two genders. these are the kinds of statements that just a few years ago are really common sense but now are considered controversial. i mean, some of the candidates on that stage may not even, you know, say these statements anymore. so, you know, i think desantis did well, but he did get bumped down in my view last night. >> carley: yeah, for vivek ramaswamy being a novice debater, he said that he's never debated anybody before, where all of these other people are polished politicians and he's the one up there having no debate experience, he seemed pretty comfortable. one issue though, the people who love him are maga people who are already voting for donald trump so you do have to wonder what the pathway forward for him will be. but right now he is having a moment we'll see how long he sustains it. kristen we have to live it there. thank you very much for joining us. >> thanks screes there is other news, big story happening today former president donald trump says he's turning 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pentagon has not yet confirmed it >> and first on fox, video footage, secret service records and messages from hunter biden's infamous laptop reveals that he traveled to at least 13 countries with his dad. it was then vice-president joe biden tagging along on official trips to asia, africa, europe and mexico. the first son seemingly hitching rides on air force two to pursue his foreign business. in a 2010 e-mail to business associates, hunter proposes a meeting with serbian officials saying, quote, how about we go over around may 10th, jrb, which are his father's initials, will be in madrid and i can catch a ride with him and then fly back to serbia and back with you. secret service records also reveal hunter requested official protection during several personal oversees business meetings including a 2010 trip to germany, a 2013 trip to the philippines, and a 2014 trip to italy. back to you. >> carley: all right ashley thank you so much. >> hours from now former president trump is expected to turn himself into the fulton county jail on charges of election interference. >> todd: the former president is expected to get a mug shot like the nine ledged co-conspirators who have already turned themselves in. lucas tomlin sin joins us live with the details. lucas. >> reporter: good early morning carly and todd. 19 of the defendants in the georgia election case have now surrendered to fulton county. yesterday rudy giuliani and sydney power booked, general a ellis seen here flashing a big grin. here are all nine who have turned themselves in including sydney powell jon east man and scott hall. a republican poll swamp. here's rudy giuliani reacting to getting booked. >> i'm being prosecuted. >> back it up. >> an american citizen who i do as a lawyer, and five other lawyers are indicted. that should tell you right away that this is a, an assault on our constitution. fanny willis will go down in american history as having conducted one of the worst attacks on the american constitution ever. >> reporter: former president donald trump reacting to the events in georgia saying the greatest mayor in the history in new york city was just arrested in atlanta georgia because he fought for election integrity. in another post trump said, quote, the indictments against me should be viewed as a campaign contribution to crooked joe biden and his radical left thugs. this will be their updated form of cheating and election interference. remember, these are bind indictments pure and simple. fulton county district attorney fani willis defended her ability as a local da to bring charges against a former president saying quote there's allegations of a crime and then to look at the law and if the facts bear out that the law's been broken then we have a duty and responsibility to bring charges. should people fail to turn themselves in, then a warrant will be filed in the system and they'll have to be arrested. now some form members of the justice department, including john yoo are uncomfortable with elected officials from red or blue states bringing charges like this saying they might not be in the national interest guys. >> carley: that's right. so many opinions, donald trump also posted on truth social that he will be proudly arrested tomorrow afternoon in georgia and then fani willis shot back saying there is nothing sexy about this. so a unique interaction to say the least a lot more reaction still to come. lucas tomlinson live for us thank you so much. >> reporter: you bet. >> carley: the republican candidates seizing on president biden's failures on a number of issues here at home and around the world. >> todd: we're talking to a panel of americans directly impacted by joe bidenen's failing policies. a gold star father, a border rancher and a single mother join us next with their top takeaways from last night's debate. ♪ ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin? for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & 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people. i'm not going to send troops to ukraine but i am going to send them to our southern border. >> and as the next president of the united states, i will make that border wall complete. >> yes, we will stand for the rule of law, yes, we will close the southern border where criminals are coming in every day. >> when joe biden took over he threw open the southern border of the united states and the wave of humanity, the wave of fentanyl. >> carley: russell i should mention that the unused border material sits on your ranch in new mexico, which is a glaring example of the unfinished border wall in your backyard. so with that in mind, which candidate piqued your interest last night? >> well, thanks for having me on, carley. one thing i want to note, and it's kind of, you know, this is just preliminary debates and it didn't disappoint, you hear a lot of campaign promises, and nobody ever follows through with them. there was no candidate really that stuck out to me. everybody said basically the same thing, let's secure the board, but there was never any concrete plan of how they were going to do that. it's going to take more than just finishing the wall. there's a lot of other aspects of this issue that are going to need some house cleaning done, for one immigration reform, labor reform. it's going to take a lot more than just this wall. >> carley: russell, how did you feel about ron desantis taking things a step further than even president trump saying that he would send special forces across the border to take out cartels? >> that's -- i don't really know what to think about that. that's a slippery slope in my opinion and hits kind of close to home. i live three miles off the border. if we start launching attacks into mexico, you know, what kind of repercussions are we going to see on this side of the border. you know, are we going to start seeing the same attacks being, you know, taken to american citizens like us. and when we have very little protection, like we do right now, it kind of concerns me a little bit but as long as there's, you know, things in place to prevent that, you know, we've got to do what we've got do to secure this border. >> carley: darren, the withdraw from afghanistan was only mentioned once last night by dougburg ham and i'm wondering if you think this was a missed opportunity to bring up this absolute failure of what happened on president biden's watch. let's linesen to that moment from when it was mentioned. >> what we have going on in ukraine is an example of deterrence fail of the biden's disastrous withdraw from afghanistan, they green lighted putin in into ukraine and they see weakness and they make a move. we have to be strong. >> carley: what did you think of that moment and was it a missed opportunity for the other candidates? >> i thought it was decent that he was able to bring it up. but a missed opportunity by all the rest of them? absolutely, at least for this family who, quite frankly, we feel like we've been disrespected and brushed to the side by this administration. i would liked to have seen a little bit more substance, if you will, and it just kind of fell flat for me, in all honesty. >> carley: lindsey, you are a single mom of a nine and 7-year-old daughter. you work as a special education teacher full-time. the conversation on education was a major focus last night. let's listen to a portion of that. >> the only way we change education in this nation is to break the backs of the teacher's unions. they are standing in the door house of our kids locking them into failing schools. >> we need transparency in the classroom because parents should never have to wonder what's being said or taught to their children in the classroom. >> the decline in education is one of the major reasons why our country is in decline. we need education in this country, not indoctrination in this country. >> carley: so all the candidates were in lock step that the education in this system is country is broken. who do you think excelled? >> well, i think -- i'm actually a special education ta, not a teacher, but i think when it comes to touching on real-life issues that were personal to me, i would say tim scott, he made it personal. he just made it -- he talked about the inflation and more than anything, what i mostly am focused on is i am a single mom and inflation i think has hit me the most. my electric bill last month was nearly $200. and going to the grocery and having to budget and rethink what i'm spending, that definitely -- that is more what i was paying attention to last night and who was going to make that real and make it personal. >> carley: yeah, i do not blame you. the economy is the number one issue for americans across the country. and if a republican does become the next president, all the candidates made it clear that energy independence would be one of the first things that they would do first day on the job. lindsey, russell, darren, thank you all so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you >> carley: all right so here's how the main stream media is reacting to the message from candidates last night. >> ramaswamy just seemed like sort of your annoying freshman roommate in college. and it's not clear why -- what he was trying to do. >> this party is anti immigrant, i would argue somewhat misogynist anti globalist. >> joe concha will talk about that the debate and media spin all of it. he's next. ♪ er-in-law lit up a room, but his vision dimmed with age. he had amd. i didn't know it then, but it can progress to ga, an advanced form of the disease. his struggle with vision loss from amd made me want to help you see warning signs of ga. like straight lines that seem wavy, blurry, or missing visual spots that make it hard to see faces like this one, or trouble with low light that makes driving at night a real challenge. if you've been diagnosed with amd and notice vision changes, don't wait. ga is irreversible. it's 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attacking republicans that happens on a day that ends with why. but what do you make of it. >> reporter: 31 flavors of stupid hard to tell from what you watch to view, just to be as provocative as possible. cnn is back to being the resistance network, the panelist last night who dropped the s bomb probably practiced that in the mirror 18 teams, because you don't accidentally do that, this is my moment i'll go viral and of course places picked that up right away. i love joy reid who doug burgum, how do you pronounce his name? he seems like a board rich guy who just decided he wanted to run, like who? tom steyer? who's tom steyer oh joe biden's at his house in lake tahoe, the bored billionaire as well. it is a so predictable because it's on a personal level. >> carley: a lot of personal viteae real. >> reporter: precisely. >> carley: usually reserved for the president who wasn't on stage so i was wondering why the personal attacks. >> reporter: because they have rs next to their names so they're echoing the white house, into is are all extreme maga people that are up there. and i didn't see much analysis around the issues that matter to people in this country. you look at gallup, one of the most important issues facing this country, it's economy, it's crime, it's immigration slash the border, it's education, it's trust in government. and if we actually saw analysis of that, they would have to make those issues a referendum on the person currently in the white house named joe biden and his performance over the last two and a half years todd. >> todd: the person people say ran the white house in the absence of the actual president is one ron klain he was the chief of staff. here's what he thought about how last night went. >> i thought overall the personal with the best night was joe biden because you looked at those eight people and you could imagine none of them being president, you could imagine none of them making a credible place against joe biden. most of them blew their chance to seem presidential. >> todd: you knew he were going to say that but to the point they're presidential, has he seen his former boss if he wants to talk about seeming president snail can i use a animal house reference? if flounder grew up. i just got personal. look, i just can't get ploweder out of my head. here's the point though when he talks about how biden had the win last night, talk about practicing something in the mirror because he was going to say that no matter what he saw in this case and the bottom line is that 18% of this country per gallup thinks they're satisfied with the direction of this country. and we talked about those issues before. joe biden's polling in the 30s on his handling of inflation, in the 20s as far as his handling of the border. there's no issue where he's actually polling more positive than negative. so don't tell me that joe biden won the night last night. i guess he did though in the sense where the analysis didn't talk about him very much. >> carley: when asked if he was going to be watching the debate i believe the white house's response is he might not he's too busy working for the american people when he's on his second vacation of the month, took a pa lats and spin class then retired to an $18 million home of one tom steyer. and i thought that the first question that was asked during the debates when martha brought up oliver anthony's song rich men north of richmond was a really good place to start and it does go to show exactly what the song is about, when you think of joe biden and the biden family, and how they became -- how joe biden talks about all the time how he was the poorest member of congress and now look at him living large. i wonder how that happened. >> reporter: i may be writing a book coming out this fall called not your daddy's donkeys, how the democrat party went from being the party for the little guy, for the working man and woman, to the party of elites. and the president's actions over the 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>> i think my mindset was how do we go and address the american people and talk to them about the truth of the issues and what we need to do to move america forward. >> i thought we all had a good vigorous debate but, you know, frankly i -- people that know me well know that i'm a fighter. i fight for what i believe in. >> i think we're just getting warmed up. i think we've been doing well in the preseason, the regular season started tonight. we had a nice home run tonight but i think that we're just getting warmed up and loading up the bases. >> carley: brian kilmeade joins us now from the original pancake house just outside milwaukee. brian you were in the middle of it all and experienced the candidates right after they walked off stage. so what stood out to you about how they reacted to the night? >> brian: couple of things i saw. senator tim scott i thought was fined but he stormed right out after doing his sean hannity interview, blew off the spin room which i thought was odd. chris christie did not show up. to me he didn't have the perfect night but he had a lot of big nights, big hits, remember when he hit vivek ramaswamy because vivek came out and said i have an odd name and skinny arms and i know it's hard to say and he goes here's who i am. the last person who said that was barack obama, the crowd loved it, called me ai candidate. but i don't know why he did not show up in the spin room. i thought governor ron desantis had to be solid and he was. he'll be joining us live in about two hours. i thought the biggest surprise to me was mike pence got the most time, the most aggressive i've ever seen him in my life and the most confident. but i thought nikki haley, to me, stole the show. i expected her to be strong on foreign policy aggressive and direct. i did not expect him to say something that donald trump is the most unpopular politician in the country and can't win and we have to win. did not expect that. i also didn't expect her to rip republicans on spending guys. i know everybody has their own ideas, expectations, so for me nikki haley, confident, working all sides, taking on all commerce with the direction really confident. she had to do well, and i think she did. i'm very curious to see who's going to get the most money pouring in today. >> todd: i also think it will be real curious if anyone chips into the donald trump lead because to your point on nikki haley, both carley and i thought hey, this person definitely landed in the top three. you did a great job doing tom rinaldi type stuff asking candidates like it was an athletic event immediately thereafter, but being on the ground, being with the audience, the people that vote, the people who really matter, what is your sense, brian, as to who won last night based upon what the audience feels? >> i think vivek will make the most helped lines, whether you loved him or you didn't like him, he still was the target and he's so eloquent and confident and different. he's going to be the story. like the foreign policy i think is absolutely -- a lot of his points are ridiculous, they're not practical. you know, we have to give up taiwan by 2028. when it comes to ukraine, don't want to spend a dime there focus on china as if we can't see the links between russia and china and how it affects our history. and israel not getting faired nation status make them earn it, i think they've earned it, we could talk to harry truman about that had he survived all these years but he is somebody people are drawn to teverybody talking about. what i did too, because i had cable put into my room, i flipped around to other channels when i got back to my room and i saw everybody was talking about vivek at the end of the night and talking about what's going to happen to the president tonight and 8:00 i think eastern time, i think somewhere in between, he's going to turn himself in. we're going to see the video and soon that will swamp the aftermath of this big debate over milwaukee. so the other thing is, it was kind of just cool to see everybody together without donald trump. i think they should have relished the moment mike pence said, you know, he should have been here but it was good to be able to interact and not have every question about donald trump. i thought both bret and march that i think you agree, they were great, well prepared. and i think the -- i almost said athletes. the politicians respected them, so there was only a few times where i felt they were trying to steam roll and take over the debate. >> carley: yeah it was a great debate definitely policy dwriven some jabs back and forth to be expected and the next debate is in just 34 days. so they brush the dust off and we're going to see what's in store for next debate. >> todd: no time for the weary. >> carley: see if donald trump shows up to that one after this debate. brian, i am sure you will be all over this in fox and friends in ten minutes. >> brian: yeah. and i just want to say, i'm at the original pancake house, those who think they evented the pancake i cannot confirm that. but for the people said we have pancakes let's build a house around it so i'm going to get to the bottom of this story in brookfield and i'll break that down. >> carley: yeah, both politics and pan covets brian thank you so much. >> todd: thanks kilmeade >> brian: go get 'em guys. >> carley: the first question of the debate focused on the number one issue for voters, the economy. >> biden's bidenomics has led to the loss of $10,000 of spending power for the average family. >> our country is in decline. this decline is not inevitable, it's a choice. >> charles payne telling us who made the best case on your number one issue, next. ♪ let innovation refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business however you see fit. rosie used part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of his refund to give his practice a facelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com you really got the brows. meet gold bond healing. a powerhouse lotion that moisturizes, heals, and smooths dry skin. with 7 moisturizers and 3 vitamins, you can pay more but you can't get more. gold bond. champion your skin. ♪ >> i will tell you how to fix it. they need to stop the spending. they need to stop the borrowing. they need to eliminate the earmarks the republicans brought back in. >> our country is in decline. this decline is not inevitable. it's a choice. it starts by understanding we need to revers bidenomics. we need to lower your gas prices. we are going to open up all energy production. we will be energy dominant again in this country tribune. >> what we also need to understand is that joe biden's bidenomics has led to the loss of $10,000 of spending power for the average family. when you see 16% inflation, your gas is up 40%, your food is up 20%, your electricity is up 20%. >> it's going to take an outsider because for a long time we have professional politicians in the republican party who have been running from something. now it's our moment to start running to something. to our vision of what it means to be an american today. [cheers] >> carley: charles payne is the host of making money on fox business. he is here to tell how the candidates did on the economy. you are here with analyst hat on. what do you think? >> last night before the debate the most important earnings number in probably the last 20 years coming out nvidia. i looked at the debates as if companies reporting e to the shareholders, us, the american people. desantis came in line but the expectations were high. right? as far as the economy is concerned. first of all, i'm wondering how many of them actually listened to the oliver anthony song. you know, i think they teed it up perfectly with this debate with that question using that song. can you go lyric by lyric and say this is how i fix that, this is how i fix that we heard the general stuff energy. too much about bidenomics bad. we know that already. we feel that already. so, in respect to that, i think desantis had, you know, obviously a high degree, high expectations. he came in line. i think he had great upside from the -- ramaswamy he probably had the best lines of the night. he certainly over overperformed. nikki haley vp spot. i personally wanted to hear a lot more on specific economic policies. beyond energy, how did our nation get to $32 trillion in debt? how come we are going to end up spending a trillion dollars on interest? a trillion dollars? do you know what can you do with a trillion dollars. how many hospitals you can build. how many schools you can build with a trillion dollars? that's just on the interest. at this moment who knows a few years now 2 trillion. >> todd: battled it out on foreign policy. take a listen. >> is there anyone on stage who would not support the increase of more funding to ukraine? >> we would not support it? >> the reality is that today. [boos] >> ukraine is not a priority for the united states of america. >> the problem that vivek doesn't stand is he wants to hand ukraine to russia. he wants to let china eat taiwan. evidence wants to go and stop funding israel. >> politician, threw have it. >> america less so have you no foreign policy experience and it shows. it shows. >> contrast the wishy washy answers on the economy with the black and white contrast between the candidates last night on foreign policy. who do you think in the minds of the voters won that back and forth? >> charles: that's a tough one because on ukraine, president biden put out a supplemental budget two weeks ago. 24 billion for ukraine. 12 billion for emergencies in america. 4 billion for the southern border. americans are upset with that i think they want ukraine to win this thing but we need accounting. we need to understand how is the money being spent? we just blew out a 300, $400 billion. we don't know where the hell it went during the covid peter. now we are sending out all billions and billions of dollars in taxpayer money. we're not sure what the strategy is we're not sure where the money is going. we want ukraine to win but i think americans are starting to get very weary about just writing a blank check. >> carley: it was definitely a heated policy abortion and donald trump. and issues and crime and the border. but it's in the books. and now we proceed to the second debate. >> todd: you check out charles payne, 2:00 p.m. today on the fox business network. we have got leave it here. "fox & friends" begins right now. >> carley: thanks, charles. >> i will not let you down. who the heck is the skinny guy with the funny last name and what the heck is he doing in the middle of the debate stage. >> i think it's time for accountant in the white house. >> i was conservative leader before it was cool. >> i'm from a town of 300 people it's a big deal to make it on this stage. >> the job of the president of the united states is to stand for truth. i'll bring back the best of america. >> it is time for a new generational, conservative leader. >> the american people will have a champion for life in the oval office. >> we're in the middle of a national identity crisis. >>