diplomatic talks unfolding in the middle east for days -- secretary of state anthony blinken macon to unannounced visits today and the israeli occupied west bank and in iraq. in a meeting with -- secretary blinken reaffirmed americas commitment to address the humanitarian crisis unfolding in gaza. the state department says blinken also discussed efforts to restore stability to the west bank. over the past few weeks, tensions have spilled over there as israeli -- and a surprise visit to back that, secretary blinken met with iraq's prime minister to talk about the importance of preventing the war from spreading into a wider regional conflict. lincoln over under is -- humanitarian pause in fighting -- aid for civilians into the gaza strip. >> this is a process. israel's race -- raised important questions about how humanitarian policies would work. we have to answer those questions. second, it is important that the pause advance a number of things, one of them as hostages. we are intensely focused. the united states, israel, every country that has one of their citizens being held hostage by hamas, to bring them home. >> a short time ago, nbc news confirmed that cia director william burns is also in the middle east to hold talks with political leaders. our sources say they have intelligence counterparts. also today, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited soldiers and an air force base in southern israel. netanyahu is still rejecting calls for humanitarian pause. or for a broader cease-fire in israel's war against hamas. the group that the u.s. deems a terrorist organization. hamas killed 1400 people in israel during the october 7th terror attack. inside of gaza, the ministry of health says that 9700 palestinians have been killed since the start of the war. the humanitarian crisis on the ground has only grown worse. the basic things like food, water, they're hard to find. the current level of aid allowed to enter gaza, it's not enough to meet the needs of people that live there. today on msnbc, cindy mccain, the director of the world food programme, says the time is running out. >> we are unable to get inside, get enough food trucks in. what is occurring on the other side is starvation. as you know, there is a huge lack of water and lack of fuel. people are in dire straits across the border. what i am asking for and pleading for is the ability to get more trucks in in a safe manner, one that is quick and efficient. we can't wait any longer. these people are going to die. i would like the world, i'm pleading for the world, please help us to get the trucks in. >> joining me now from tel aviv, nbc news correspondent paula gorani. what is the significance of secretary blinken's surprise visit to the occupied west bank? >> he is reiterating the u.s. diplomatic message to the palestinian authority, mahmoud abbas, with the surprise visit. and also the surprise visit to baghdad. one of the things he said, which is sort of a modification of the diplomatic message that the u.s. had a few weeks ago, was that he is trying to sign post what a postwar gaza might look like by acknowledging that the palestinian authority, which by the, way it has to be said is deeply unpopular in the west bank, might have a role to play. this is what secretary blinken had to say today about that. listen. >> the p. a. is playing a very important role right now in the west bank, trying to keep the stability there. that is usually important, because nobody wants another front in the west bank or anywhere else. they are really stepping up under difficult conditions to do the necessary work. if you project forward, to the future, we all agree in defining that future, shaping that future, for gaza, for the west bank, and ultimately for a palestinian state, palestinian voices have to be at the center of that. >> there is a problem with that, the rams would tell you in the region. the palestinian authority isn't just deeply unpopular. it is seen as corrupt, it is seen in some cases as just being the arm of the israeli occupation in the west bank. the idea of having the palestinian authority in any way administering a postwar gaza, it's one that does not seem entirely realistic as far as analysts and observers are concerned. this is a message that the u. s. is bringing, but is not resonating with arab leaders across the region. certainly not if you speak to ordinary palestinians. >> notable, what you described yesterday as a softening of the administration's position. and today, a modification. talk us through the role president abbas plays within palestinian society, and the effort to contain hamas. >> i think that i can repeat a little bit of what i said by expanding on it. he's somebody that is deeply entrenched in the palestinian authority, a longtime leader. he's in his 80s. the palestinian authority is not seen as serving its people. in fact, you might remember and some of our viewers might remember, on october 7th when the attacks took place, there were demonstrations in ramallah, not against israel, but against the palestinian authority. some of the protesters infect attacked the ramallah sign inside of the occupied west bank. in an effort to show their displeasure with their own leadership, who they've accused of not just leaving them unprotected, but of allowing some of the settler violence, some of the settler expansions in the west bank to take place. not pushing back enough against this israeli expansion. >> nbc's paula gorani for us. iran denies it played any rolett with hamas top leaders. nbc news bureau chief has more from tehran. >> iran's supreme leader met with the hamas leader, according to iranian state media. they did not specify the date of the meeting, and we believe it happened in the last couple of days. interestingly on social media channels linked to hamas, they were reporting this two days ago. iranian state media only spoke about it today. this marks the first known meeting -- since the outbreak of the war between israel and iran-backed hamas on october 7th. the previous reported meeting was in june. also interestingly, there was no public statement. it was a closed-door meeting. according to state media here, during their meeting, they were briefed on the latest developments in gaza and the west bank. he expressed appreciation for the resilience of the people of gaza and expressed regret over what he described as israeli war crimes. he said these were supported by the united states. he also emphasized iran's permanent policy of support of palestinian resistance forces against what he calls the zionist occupiers. i think that one of the things that it is a key take away from this is that there is no doubt that hamas was expecting a much more forceful speech from the head of hezbollah. they wanted him to deliver some sort of ultimatum, or make some sort of declaration of war, which he did not. -- and by not doing so, it would be seen as iran giving that direction. hezbollah takes its direction and its orders from tehran. in some ways, this meeting is being interpreted as tehran giving hamas assurances that they still have their back, they support them, the financial and military support, the training will not dry up. also, i think this is an important point. the united states is designated as a global terrorist who lives a life of luxury in qatar, a country which has been instrumental in the financing of hamas. also good relations of the u. s.. and yet she is able to travel unimpeded, without any -- back and forth from qatar, to other places that we don't know about. it should raise some uncomfortable questions about washington's relationship. >> nbc's ali arouzi for us in iran. thank you. up next, the countdown begins. we're a year out from the 2024 elections. just days from the next gop debate. for a third time, it's anyone's guess if donald trump will show. stick around. for a president that has quite a full docket, just this week, sent to 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(gentle music) >> a year out from the 2024 presidential election, we have an unexpected turn and the -- quest for the republican nomination. nbc news has learned iowa governor kim reynolds will endorse florida governor ron desantis at a rally in des moines tomorrow. her endorsement could provide a valuable boost to desantis's floundering campaign, and the pending endorsement, already under trump skin -- after evoke the news today, trump's campaign's governor valence for going back on her initial plan to stay neutral. also today, nbc news released a new poll showing for iowa republicans, the top quality they're looking for and a candidate is the ability to beat president biden. nearly three quarters of those surveyed said it's, quote, extremely important, above all other issues. that's another republican presidential debate this week. the gop debate will go down in miami -- hosted by nbc news. at least four candidates appear to have made the cut. but donald trump is expected to skip it, as he has the two others. joining us now, host of the strange days podcast, and republican congressman carlos curbelo. both our nbc news political analysts. let's start with kim reynolds in her plan to endorse ron desantis tomorrow. does that change the dynamic in iowa? >> it can, in the sense that -- hoping that there's one candidate who has the opportunity to go one-on-one with donald trump won this primary season formally kicks off. kim reynolds thinks that's ron desantis. polling continues to be relatively strong compared tono, of course. the other one that everyone's talking about is nikki haley, because she has surged in some of the early stakes in recent weeks. again, this is all relatively speaking, because donald trump is still the very strong front runner in this field. but establishment republicans think that if one of these candidates has the opportunity to face him one-on-one, that the republicans might be able to nominate someone other than donald trump. >> to your point, carlos, the word relatively is doing a lot of work in that analysis. nbc news reporting that the biden campaign is gonna head to miami -- gop debate to counter the maga messaging with -- focus on land bck communities. what would your counsel be to them a year out, fernand? >> well i think the most important thing that the campaign has to do, and i think they're doing it, alicia, is to make clear to the american people that contrast between what going back to maga trumpism represents. and that doesn't matter if it's donald trump is the nominee, nikki haley, or ron desantis for that. this is the party that was comfortable with using violence to end american democracy. the party which has made excuses for the type of behavior that we've seen that has resulted in violence, stopped the peaceful transfer of power. the party which has not created jobs, has not strengthened the economy, has not been able to get many of the big bills passed that the democrats and president biden have done. if they can set up that contrast, the on that message, and hit it every day for the next three 65, president biden 's gonna win reelection comfortably and get the mandate that he and the democrats deserve. >> let's take finance point there about this being not just about donald trump, but about trump-ism. lest we ever lose sight of just how unusual this election is. it's easy to say, it's a year into the election, there's a debate. there's nothing normal about this election. -- donald trump's allies are laying out a plan to use the federal government to punish critics, and opponents, if he were to win a second term. trump has even talked about invoking the insurrection act to deploy the military to quell any demonstrations against h. we'll get to the polling, a year out. i know people like to talk about the polling. but trump, as a threat to democracy, i know that may not conceptually always resonate with voters. but i wonder if the pivot for republicans on that debate stage on wednesday night is to say, the man who is not here, who wants to be president again, has no regard for the rule of law. is anyone who's gonna be on that stage willing to prosecute that case against him? >> alicia, i think this electability question is probably the most relevant in this context. and here is reality. donald trump and his movement were on the ballot in 2018, in 2020, and in 2022. and swing district and swing state voters all over the country, in all three elections, rejected donald trump and his movement. he is polling ahead of joe biden right now and some of these states. that is a reality. however, some of these candidates who actually want to defeat donald trump have to make the case to republican voters that this is someone who's a three time loser. he did squeak out a victory in 2016, but since then, he has been soundly defeated and every subsequent election. so that is a powerful argument. you heard nikki haley trying to make that argument, she is the candidate that pulls the strongest against joe biden. i think we can look to her to try to reemphasize that point in this important nbc news debate next week in miami. >> all right, fernand. carlos just suddenly referenced that new york times poll that has everyone talking today showing donald trump leading president bi five battleground states. and nevada, for example, trump has a ten-point advantage. i know it's a year t. i know historically, we have seen candidates rebound before. you are the pollster among us. what jumps out to you about those numbers? >> well, i think we have to state the obvious. these are not good numbers for president biden. and the silver lining of these very soft and weak numbers is that hopefully, they recognize and understand that they've got a year to turn this around, which i still think is enough time. let's be honest also. the campaign on the biden side has not really begun in earnest. we're starting to see signs of that. that's gonna take place, now, into this new year, and that's when you'll really see the campaigning take place in a way that the republican process has been joined. i think part of the polling is also reflective of the fact that the world is a very difficult place right now. but when rather than try to blame this on president biden, i think the american people need to understand it is biden 's sober, experienced, and study and that is guided the united states through these difficult periods. and the idea of going back to the chaos of trumpism, which not only would mean that erratic approach, but an approach that would say to the world, you cannot count on the united states of the last 246 years. the united states under trump may very well be an authoritarian type of fascist movement. that is the stakes. that is why these polls are alarming now, yes, but still should strive as a wake up call that the biden campaign is what the country needs to understand what the stakes are one year from today, alicia. >> -- plan to use the federal government to go after his critics. i'm hoping to get you both in on this question. i'm gonna start with you, carlos. let's look ahead. the big election is happening in -- kentucky, mississippi are holding gubernatorial elections. -- constitutional amendment on abortion, plus whether to legalize marijuana in virginia. -- carlos, which race are you watching most closely? >> i'm watching ohio. we know democrats have been benefited by abortion politics since the overturning of roe v. wade. we'll see if that continues in a red state. then i'm also watching virginia. virginia has been a bellwether for a long time, previewing a year ahead of the national elections what could happen. and it is been a pretty good predictor in recent years. those are the two that i would focus on. >> i've got 30 seconds for you. >> the truth is, 2023 has been a great year for democrats in the special elections. i think if you see that trend continue, it'll put a little bit of the bed wetting to rest that democrats are feeling and give them a bit more oomph in their sails. the truth is, all the states, all these elections, democrats have done well in 2023. i anticipate they'll do well in virginia, ohio, >> fernand, carlos, given that we have allies in miami, i had talk to the two of you. thank you for being taking the time to be with us. a reminder this wednesday, november 8th, put it on the calendar. it is the next republican primary debate. it can be moderated by nbc nightly news, lester holt, and the press moderator, kristen walker. it starts -- nbc news now and on tiktok, and immediately after, rachel maddow leads expert and -- analysis, discussing with a panel which candidate might have emerged as a viable challenger against former president trump. it all begins here, ten pm eastern, on msnbc, and streaming on peacock. up next, tomorrow, it is trump's turn. the former president will take the stand in the civil fraud trial -- lisa rubin is gonna be watching and listening for. plus, there is still 241 people being held hostage by hamas. according to the israeli defense forces, what one family is doing to keep jewish traditions alive despite the pain of a loved one being held against their will. the lungs and lower airways. but i'm protected with arexvy. arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can be serious for those over 60, including those with asthma, diabetes, copd, and certain other conditions. but i'm protected. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective in preventing lower respiratory disease from rsv and over 94% effective in those with these health conditions. arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects are injection site pain, fatigue, muscle pain, headache, and joint pain. i chose arexvy. rsv? 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>> i think one of the things that stuck out to me across both of the sons testimonies was how clearly angry they both wear that the attorney general would take any issue with their roles in certifying their father's financial statements to various banks. so after donald trump became president, both eric and donald trump jr. at various times signed certifications to deutsche bank, which had multiple loans out to donald trump. in those certifications, they said, we are forwarding to you the statements of financial condition for our father, and certifying to you that a fairly present his financial condition in all material respects. the problem is that those underlying statements of financial condition had also its evaluation problems. the mar-a-lago example i just gave you is just one of them. and in both cases, they maintained they were entitled to rely on accountants and lawyers in signing those certifications, and didn't have to do any independent due diligence or work to ensure and themselves that the information therein was accurate. the problem is that the nation -- nature of the relationship with the accounting firm that did this work is such that at all times, trump had to promise the accountant that that accountant was -- information was accurate. -- >> trump's gonna be in front of an attorney general he has lashed out against relentlessly. -- a short time ago, a. g. james tweeted, trump can try to hide his wrongdoings behind taunts and threats, but we will not be bullied out of uncovering the truth. lisa, you saw just how contentious the courtroom was last week with trump's sons. i wonder what it is here expecting when you have trump himself there. >> trump has gone into the courthouse hallway on every available break before and after lunch and before and after court. given the kind of statements in the hallway that i don't expect he would get away with making inside the courtroom. so one of the things i'm looking forward to tomorrow, i'm not sure looking for it is the right word, sort of looking to see tomorrow is how deviant his actual on the stand testimony is from those moments when he is separate and apart from the judge and can say whatever he feels like saying within the bounds of this gag order. there's a high likelihood in my mind that trump or his lawyers will somehow run afoul of the existing gag order, and or persuade the judge that additional remedial measures are needed. i'm hopeful that's not the case, because the fake judge arthur engoron, i share his view that what trump is doing is very dangerous to certain people's safety. >> one more question. what are you gonna be looking for in this testimony? >> i'm looking for ivanka to talk about, again, she also certified loans to deutsche bank. she was intimately involved in establishing the relationship on behalf of the trump family with deutsche bank. even though she's no longer a defendant in this case, she was an officer of the trump organization during time periods that are at issue for the organization itself. she will likely try to one over away from that, claiming that she has built a new life. alicia, you and i both know she tried to get out of testifying that -- impediment to her coming to new york. the attorney general is gonna try to show that ivanka, for all the ways in which he's built a very new life separate and apart from the trump organization, was very much in the mix in the same way both of her brothers where joining time periods that are at issue for the corporate entities themselves. >> lisa, they're giving me more time, because i want to make sure that we get to this. there was a development last week with the second e. jean carroll child coming up -- trump will face an anonymous jury. what more do we know about that? >> so this is the second of two e. jean carroll trials. you should know i sat through the first. this is gonna be a damages only trial, and damages particular relating to donald trump's statements during his presidency when he was first confronted with e. jean carroll 's accusations that she was sexually assaulted by him years before he was president. just like in the first trial, where all the potential and actual jurors were anonymous, and additional measures were taken to ensure that anonymity. judge blue canyon who presided over the first trial is gonna repeat those same measures here. what's really notable is that in his order, he says that, in light of statements trump has made about this case and others, i find these measures still to be as necessary as they were in the first trial. >> lisa reuben, as always, thank you so much for being with us. next, returning to a report from tel aviv celebrating jewish tradition. they're spending every waking hour hoping their loved one, held hostage by hamas, will return home safely. later, the major -- reproductive rights and ohio. what is on the line, what it could tell us about 2024. you're watching american voices. 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>> horrible. >> it's far from certain around next week's abortion vote and ohio will go. but either way, some republicans believe the party is focused on the wrong issue. >> i feel like they're missing a lot of the big ones. a lot of the struggles that people have been day-to-day life. inflation is really bad. food prices. >> erica, along with four young boys, as opposed to abortion. but voted against the republican measure last summer, which she felt was an overreach. she's frustrated with her party. >> i don't care about the party lines. i care about truth and honesty and principles. >> do you feel like the republican party right now is sort of at odds with itself? >> definitely. >> at least i have similar concerns about the future of the party, heading into the 2024 presidential election. >> do you think abortion is an issue that will direct who you choose in the primaries? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. if someone was like, hey, i want to impose a six-week ban, i would never vote for that person. i think the abortion issue is just a lot bigger than most people have realized it is. you know. for republicans. >> on tuesday, the state goes to the polls. the message it sends will be felt nationwide. stephanie gosk, nbc news, delaware county, ohio. >> joining us now, ohio state senate majority leader, nickie antonio. senator, thank you for being with us. break it down for us. what is at stake in ohio? >> well, what's at stake is women's right, family rights to freedom, personal freedom, making those personal private decisions. and frankly, the direction of the state going forward. >> you rallied with voters just yesterday in support of this ballot measure. what if you've been hearing on the ground? >> what i've been hearing is that -- it's interesting. that the ban, the six-week ban goes to fire. people are aware that that's hanging over our heads in the balance. they want to see issue one pass in the affirmative, because they know that it will protect the right to make the decisions for themselves that are best for themselves and their families, not the government, not politicians. >> i want to pull this recent poll. it says -- ohio voters agree with the proposed amendment. 60% plan to vote in favor of it. those numbers, striking to me given where we started this conversation about making sure that this would actually get to a vote. you then look at the state legislature, there's so out of step with where voters are on this issue. how did they get there? >> well, we have gerrymandered districts. we have term limits that i've imposed an artificial opportunity for the gerrymandered districts to have what they -- supermajority in the republican party, who is absolutely out of step with every day ohioans. and they're showing it every day and every dirty trick that they play and everything that they've tried to do since august. >> let's talk about those dirty tricks. part of what you're referencing about august was this very clumsily or purposely misleading wording around this, the desire that they did not want it -- they wanted to change the threshold. but here we are. you heard the sound i played from your governor. >> yeah. >> other republicans in ohio have been saying the same, perpetuating these false narratives about this ballot measure, obviously in the hope of persuading voters to vote against it, to create some confusion. what are the most common misconceptions about this proposal that you want to set straight? >> well the first one is that there's some kind of abortion through nine months. it's not even a thing. all medical professionals will tell you that that doesn't even exist. what is true is that it would return ohio to roe, when roe was standing with viability. and that's the most important thing in terms of the extent of viability. the other thing they're saying is that they tried to make it about parental rights. ohio has very strict parental rights guidelines when it comes to minors, daughters and abortion. and actually the federal government has -- this bill doesn't have any language in it that this ballot in my -- to do anything about potential -- parental rights. >> tuesday night, i'll be watching what happens out of virginia. i think that's really consequential. it'll be unimportant marker of where we're headed moving forward. i know you are watching what's happening out of ohio. for those of us who aren't in ohio, who are watching this nationally, we care about ohio, but also are trying to glean what this means as a national trend, what is that we need to understand about the political dynamics inside of ohio that have set the stage for this moment? >> you know, there has been this constant clamor to go for an all-out ban on abortion. totally out of step with the people of ohio. no exceptions for rape or incensed. and i'm hoping that the vote shows that they go to fire. it's too extreme, that like all of the polling bears out, the people in the state of ohio and across the country want to see some sort of guardrails and some sort of abortion rights available. and i think that's what we're gonna see. >> i think, and i know you agree here, part of it is, the numbers you see in the polls, the other part is the organizing that actually gets done on the ground to ensure that that 60% but say they want to come out and vote for this actually show up to the polls and have their vote honored. what is the investment that has been made in ohio to make sure that those voters have access to the polls? >> well, there's been millions of dollars invested. there's a real coalition, all kinds of groups came together, physicians groups, labor groups, the democratic party, and in groups that are working with independent voters as well. everyone coalesced. i think it's been an incredible runway that has been created, and i'm hoping that one of the things it does, now that we're working so well together, is have a runway for next year's election in the presidential. >> that will be very interesting to watch especially. i don't know if you got to see the package that my colleague brought up -- voters who might not be one issue voters, what's bothering me is the fact that these republicans are so focused on one issue that they're losing track of all these other big issues. ohio senate majority leader nickie antonio, thank you so much for being with us. that's gonna do it for us today and for this weekend. i'm alicia menendez, i want to thank you for spending part of your sunday with us. be sure to follow the show on social media. -- i will see you back here next weekend for more american voices. inside with jen psaki begins after a quick break. have a great night. 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