"outnumbered," i'm harris faulkner with my co-host emily compagno and kayleigh mcenany. joining us today host of kennedy saves the world podcast, kennedy herself. co-host of bottom line on fox business, sean duffy is here. let's get started. breaking news kevin mccarthies he will be leaving congress this year. this shocking announcement after his historic removal from the speakership in october and his departure is set to make republicans already slim majority tighter heading into 2024. the former speaker announced his decision in op ed titled, i'm leaving the house, but not the fi fight. i have seen the goodness of the american people and they will uphold the enduring value of our great nation. we all have a role to play in that effort, i never could have imagined the journey when i threw my hat in the ring, i left it on the field and with a smile on my face. looking back, i wouldn't have had it any other way. only in america, he says. sean. >> sean: kevin mccarthy was a members leader, he had been to every district, knows members and issues of the districts. he served as whip, leader and as speaker. i just found him as a happy wire. here is what is interesting, harris, most leaders that lose power, you see they do a speech and say i will leave the institution and baback home, kevin mccarthy will have stayed for several months because he cared about the transition to speaker johnson, he had knowledge to offer. it shows how much he cares about the country and institution and many were elected under kevin mccarthy. >> harris: can you replace his seat with a republican in an election? >> that is one of the most republican seats. i are one less, bill johnson from ohio is leaving and george santos is leaving and now kevin mccarthy, thin majority is thinner which makes you think how stupid republicans have been going after their own members. >> harris: strong word and nobody fund raises like kevin mccarthy. >> kayleigh: he doubt about it, to underscore kevin's point, it is almost laughable. you can't get a more unpopular president than joe biden, unless maybe jimmy carter. left with five seat majority, four, three and now down to a two-seat majority as republicans, two seats away from hakeem jeffries taking the gavel. we will likely win back the seats but as a former secretary and former secretary of campaign, how do you deliver voters a choice? it strikes me two ways. one, nominee of the republican party, looks like president trump can drive a choice, here is my agenda is here is biden's. this is our contract with america. i believe mike johnson is the man for the moment, but two-seat majority, tall task. >> harris: follow-up for you. look how excited democrats have been to anoint kamala harris with the crown of she's had more decision breaks as vice president than anybody else in history. it is tight there, too. >> kayleigh: it looks good for republicans, but jim justice in west virginia and joe manchin retiring and john tester vulnerable. we need victories and wins on the board and haven't seen that in quite sometime. >> harris: kennedy, do you think people look at that and say, they got the same thing with johnson keeping the government open, or something different? >> kennedy: i think you got something different, growing pains the gop is exhibiting. same thing in the democratic party, there are real fractures, not unique to them. i agree with kayleigh, johnson is the man of the moment. i don't think he is a long-term person who will inhabit the speakership for years. he is a place holder until the caucus figures out what their party stands for. curious to hear from you, is there a group of people that could sit down and craft a contract for america right now because it feels like if you had even a slim majority of republicans in the caucus put something down, a number would be willing to blow it up for ideological reasons or just attention. >> sean: great to have a contract with america, that will not come. you have a republican party and i hate to bash them, they were elected to fight communists as opposed to fighting themselves. they spent a week on kevin mccarthy and a week on george santos. you don't have a week, you start to lose focus because presidential cycle takes over. youun are out of time and focus on the wrong thing, not a contracts, you are focused on your own internal fight. >> emily: majority from 220 to 213, and in his farewell address letter, former speaker said you know the more government you have, weaker america gets, worse america gets. i will recruit best and brightest for office, to me, that indicated he feels where we need bandaid is no longer legislature, it is slim and terrifying. to your point, he out recruiting to get a cohesive gop because that is what we're lacking. do you feel he'll succeed? is that where we need his prowess? will it work? >> sean: it is not a governing majority, kevin mccarthy sees you need a larger majority, he will go recruit other members to come to the party. you have to have compromise, you can never have it be my way or the highway. politics don't work that way, marriage doesn't work that i way. sometimes in my house, it is more rachel than me. >> harris: let me ask you, we know where the two top vote getters would be today, biden and trump. there are at least 50 pvrs of people in their own party who don't want, anybody, but biden and 50 to a little more for people in trump's party, anybody but trump. what do you do with the people if it is neither of the men? where does the party go? is it trump's party? is it biden's party? >> sean: the congressional seat and senate races, candidates separate themselves from the top of the ticket. i'm not running with trump or biden, i'll run my own race. analyze the way you see fit, analyze me and my opponent on the issue i'm running on and message that i have. sometimes in a presidential cycle and especially with biden and trump at top of the ticket, it is hard to get separation, all candidates, unless donald trump is polling up by 30 points in the district, you want to run with them. most of the time that is not the case. you have to separate yourself. >> harris: sorry, the reason i ask that question, without going house speaker, you say kevin mccarthy will help people win in districts. what does that look like? a different party in that sense? >> sean: you are recruiting good candidates and trying to upon had best candidates win the primary and he's a profound fundraiser and helping raise money for the can't he gets on the ballot. >> kayleigh: when i spoke with mike johnson, he said, i was drawing up plans for the next speaker. he has a vision. he is humble and has a lot of political capital with the republican caucus, i believe he can lead this party forward and he has a plan. do not underestimate johnson, kevin mccarthy has a great successor. >> harris: do you agree with kennedy he will not stick? >> kayleigh: i think he will stick. >> kennedy: shots fired. >> harris: it wasn't shots fired. >> kayleigh: isn't sean duffy happier once he left congress? >> harris: i think everybody is, former president trump and president biden trading jabs last night. and his main motivation for seeking a second term, stay er t close. o pay is the runaway interest rates on credit cards and car loans. credit cards can be 22% near 30% if you're late. car and truck loans- 10 to 15%. call newday. pay off your high rate credit cards and car loans with the lower rate newday 100 va cash out loan. you can save $500 a month $6,000 a year. pain hits fast. so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. and now, get max strength topical pain relief precisely where you need it. with new tylenol precise. hi, i'm ben and i've lost 60 pounds on golo. 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>> except for day one. >> meaning? >> i want to close the border and drill, drill, drill. >> that is not retribution. >> i will be -- [cheering] >> i will be, he keeps -- love this guy. he says you are not going to be a dictator? no, no, no, other than day one, we're closing the border and drilling and drilling, after that not a dictator. >> kayleigh: here is what trump does, baits the media to make headlines and media overreaches, they don't attack trump, they attack you, his supporters. >> he never answered it. there is a sickness among unfortunately some of our fellow americans regarding authoritarianism and totalitarianism, they want it. he promised he would be a dictator on day one, he got applause. >> is he priming people yet again to say yeah, i might just pursue authoritarian style of governing and maybe people won't have a problem with that. you take the elements and inject religious zeletry and justification, not from trump himself, from this base of right wing, white evangelicals he has cultivated. >> sean: is trump going to be a dictator? great question. he gave more power back to people, more power back to states, he didn't try to consolidate that power, and that is coming from a group in the media and joe biden white house gone after christians, catholics, parents that want to protest school board meetings, the list is long and to think by the way, january 6 people, trump supporter, getting information off twitter and again accusing trump of what they have done themselves. on trump last night, i get pessimistic about the country and where we're going and i had hope, donald trump is looking back and looking forward he's an optimist, laid out positive vision for america. who disagrees with we should secure the border and have more american energy? that is winning hopeful message that carries the day. >> kayleigh: emily, the media with basket of deplorables moment, he baited hillary. the person who makes this about the american people will win. >> emily: this underscored number one democrats in liberal media can't take a joke, just take a joke for once. number two, the joke during this administration has been on the american people because of feckless leadership and spinelessness of who is in the white house and seeing last night what i felt how refreshing to have someone comtent and saying something that was not word salad, wasn't a lie or narrative or garble and people around them fawning and fanning and telling me here is why you should take this and here is the reason, i'm so exhausted by the power grab of washington, by media calling that fascism or calling that dictatorship and for the apologist media that has excused people that take from the american people, tax us more, have our earnings be less, blame us for everything and say nothing, slick, not facts, absolutely. apologies and narrative, not action has been the name of the game for last few years, i'm terrified for the future and grateful for any optimism that the gop can take it back. the way it looks right now is devastating. >> kayleigh: last night he turned this around and made it about policy and you win when you do that. ken ken absolutely, they have the hat trick and house and senate and talking about democrats beginning of the biden administration, they did not try to take back some of the power for the legislative branch. if trump as president is such a threat and presidency so powerful, i don't understand that, they could have made so many decisions, but they didn't, particularly on immigration. i want to know from joe biden, say to your point, legal cases become so consuming they take over donald trump and he doesn't end up running as a nominee, will joe biden then drop out if trump is not running? 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that is the percentage i want to learn about. who will sit home or vote for the other side and no labels and third party and no party type things are looking at those, that is how they know they can be disrupters. until somebody says it out loud besides the squad, who are upset and can't figure out who the victims are and are threatening to call the muslim vote for people who don't vote for biden, that sort of thing, besides them, nobody is saying we will not vote for you unless you get that border situation right and that might change the game a little bit, at least they would feel hurt. >> sean: christopher wray testified lights are blinking for terror attacks. >> emily: more to come, everyone, more "outnumbered" in just a moment. the powerful va benefit that lets you borrow 100 percent of your home's value with the newday 100 va cash out loan, you can pay off high-rate credit cards, and car loans, and other debt. and because newday has been granted automatic authority by the va we can say yes when banks say no. helping veterans use their va benefit. that's newday usa. 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yes or no? >> if the speech turns into conduct it can be harassment, yes. >> i'm asking calling for genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment? >> it is context dependent. violates harvard code of conduct, correct? >> again, it depends on the context. >> emily: harvard president claudine gay released a statement, there are some who confuse right to free expression with idea harvard will condone violence against jewish people. let me be clear, it is vile and have no place at harvard and those who threaten jewish students will be held to account. where was that clarity and conviction yesterday and since october 7? it is laughable, only now do we get walking back of vile comments and smug expressions have no place before the halls of congress. >> harris: well, they are above us all, only eight in the ivy league. ivy, think about that, things that grow out of control out the side of a building. that is them. you said something last segment that hit me in the heart. you said there is no way we go forward and i'm paraphrasing without being hurt. they are not listening to anybody, but the echo chamber where they live. yesterday they showed who they were and told us and now we know. i know that the congresswoman elise stefanik wants more to happen to them than resignations. >> emily: she spoke with you last hour, take a watch. >> harris: she could not answer with a simple yes and you seemed to get emotional when you asked if it would take acting of genocide to get her to say yes those words are wrong. >> well, in her testimony, she actually said it will take conduct or action, of course i followed up and said what do you mean it will take action, act of committing genocide? she couldn't answer yes. it was absurd to have that back and forth, they are not fit to be in those positions. >> harris: first place she talked since that aired. she does not want them to quit, she wants the universities to fire those in those positions and the room behind them had students from the universities. one was on "fox and friends," imagine how their hearts were pierced. we will not protect you on campus, we don't hear it as a problem. it was disgusting, but we needed to see it. >> emily: kayleigh, how did that make you feel as an alumna? >> kayleigh: deeply disappointing. head of jewish coalition said she is proud of the university and she wants to fix it. i feel the same way. we heard them say freedom of speech, freedom of speech, freedom of speech and time we had a discussion about the term. you have a right to say what you want if it is not a credible threat, but there are consequences. we shouldn't let a white nationalist into college. you don't have freedom of cushy job. bill achman invited harvard president to come view the footage from hamas. i want to know about the others, if you can't watch that footage, sorry. >> kennedy: you get kicked out of harvard for misgendering someone, you get kicked out of the school and expelled if falsely accused of sexual assault with no due process. but you call for genocide and somehow the president of the united states acts as a human shield on your behalf? i hope wealthy donors look at this and withhold gifts. >> harris: and parents. >> kennedy: this is what was created. >> sean: they are called microaggression. are we going to joe biden? >> in the roosevelt room delivering remark urging congress to pass his supplemental. you heard kennedy talk about it earlier it includes funding to support ukraine, one issue on his plate. >> president biden: congress needs to pass supplemental funding for ukraine before they break for the holiday. simple as that. frankly, it is stunning we have gotten to this point in the first place. congress is willing to give putin the greatest gift he can hope for and abandon our global leadership, not just ukraine, beyond that. we have seen the brutality putin inflicted on ukraine. trying to subjugate his neighbor, committing atrocities against ukrainian civilians. plunging them into the coldness and darkness of winter so they don't have electricity. kidnapping thousands of ukrainian children from parents and families and keeping them in russia. russian forces are committing war crimes simple as this. that is stunning, who is prepared to walk away from holding putin accountability, who is prepared to do that? better part of two years, the brave people of ukraine have denied russia victory on the battlefield, they defeated putin ambition to dominate ukraine and people of the united states can and should take pride that we've enabled ukraine success thanks to the steady supply of weapons and ammunition, we provided them together with our partners and allies. i just did a meeting with the g7, this is one issue we discussed with all the european leaders. we are prepared to stay with ukraine and our european friends are, as well. who in the united states is prepared to walk away from that? i'm not prepared to walk away and i don't think the american people are either. if putin takes ukraine, he won't stop there, important to see the long run, he will keep going, he's made that clear. putin attacks nato ally and attacks a nato ally we committed as nato member we would defend every inch of nato territory, then we'll have something we don't seek and that we don't have today. american troops fighting russian troops. american troops fighting russian troops if he moves on other parts of nato. make no mistack. judge harshly those who turn their back. we can't let fiftputin win. say it again, we can't let putin win, it is in the interest of all our friends. any disruption strengthens putin's decision. ecextreme republicans are playing chicken with this. let me be clear, we need real solutions, i support real solutions at the border and put forward a comprehensive plan when i came into office and made it clear we need congress to fix what a broken immigration system because we know we all know it is broken. i'm willing to do significantly more, but in terms of changes of policy and provide resources we need at the border, i'm willing to change policy, as well. i've asked for billions for more agents and asylum officers. republicans have to decide if they want a political issue or solution at the border. do they want a solution? it cannot be sustained now, we need a real solution and my team has been engaged in negotiations with senate democrats and republicans on border security. democrats, democrats have put forward a bipartisan compromise on the table. leaders schumer and senate democrats also have offered to let republicans propose to that border proposal. republicans rejected it. we are not going to even though democrats say you can amend it any way you want. we don't want to do that. this has to be a negotiation. republicans think they can get everything they want without bipartisan compromise, that is not the answer. that is not the answer and now they are willing to kneecap ukraine on the battlefield and damage our national security in the process. look, i know we have our divisions at home. let's get past them, this is critical. angry politics can't get in the way of our responsibility as leading nation in the world and literally the entire world is watching, the entire world is watching. what will the united states do? think if we don't support ukraine? what the rest of the world going to do? what is japan going to do, which is supporting ukraine now. what will happen in terms of g-7 and nato allies, what are they going to do? if we walk away now, it will embolden other would-be aggressors, i'm calling on congress to do something and do the right thing, to stand with people of ukraine. stand against the tyranny of putin. stand for freedom, literally stand for freedom and get this done. we're the reason putin has not overrun ukraine and moved beyond that and you heard me talk about it before, in fact, we walk away, how many of european friends will continue to fight and what rates will they continue to fund? this is too serious. i am willing to make significant compromises on the border, we need to fix the broken border system, it is broken and thus far gotten no response. so going to be a vote later today, we'll know where we go from there, i wanted to comment before the vote and i'm sure i will talk to you after the vote. thank you for listening. >> mr. president, would you be okay with democrats willing to put more on border policy to get this current package through? >> president biden: yes. >> would you be okay with democrats agreeing to -- >> president biden: i've laid out in our negotiations what we're willing to do, significantly more. equipping border capacity we need on the border from judges to more border security. in addition to making substantive changes. they are unwilling to do it. i really thought, i felt good for a while, i thought we were making real progress. langford is a decent guy and i thought we would compromise on the border and security at the border, but they walked away. it is take everything we have here, one proposal, which is extreme or nothing. in the meantime, the nothing means we don't get support for our friends and our innocent people of ukraine. i'll talk to you more -- >> president biden on ukraine and china, there is polling by associated press that shows 70% of americans and 40% of democrats believe you acted illegally or unethically in regard to your family business, can you explain to americans why you interacted with your son and brother foreign business associates. >> president biden: i did not, that is a bunch of lies. i did not, they are lies. >> mr. biden, president, do you think there is -- >> harris: he didn't want to take that question as much as the ukraine question, he is still at the door. >> president biden: i will defeat him. >> who else could defeat donald trump, mr. president? >> harris: okay, he blamed republicans on the border and you almost came up off the couch, sean. >> sean: we talked earlier in the hour, you have exchange for border security for aid to ukraine and to israel. republicans don't trust joe biden or democrats, 14 billion to have more judges and more agents, that is only to process more immigrants, nothing to secure the border. if joe biden has an honest conversation ands we will secure the border, we'll have a real conversation, that would work for them. they also want transparency, we don't know how the money is spent. we want to see how the money is spent where and who is siphoning money you hava the top. >> harris: you see him at news conferences, he was willing to take questions, had you been in the room and he could stand there, you might ask a question like that. it didn't play out like that. kennedy, why might there be a reason why americans don't have trust in regard to funding? >> kennedy: afghanistan, look how long we were in afghanistan and how much it cost, trillions of dollars. what do we get from it? botched withdrawal that is on the mind of many voters and they see some failed long-term pursuits and don't want us getting wrapped up in a long-term forever war like that ever again. this president has not been very clear about where the money is going or accountability process and americans start to lose faith and start to see what happens in gaza and taiwan. and then it gets to be a scary picture. >> harris: that is interesting, 75 times we've been hit and i didn't check last hour, it ticks up every time it gets dark over there. 75 times we've been hit since october 17th, our men and women in concert stationed around the middle east and he is not hitting the enemy hard enough outside that war and you invite more problems. >> kennedy: who is making that call? secretary of defense? secretary of state, they seem to be on different pages, depending on the day. that doesn't fill americans with confidence. i feel for my friends who have sons and daughters in uniform at this point. >> harris: why not a fireside chat? i realize it is late in the even being, he has a full schedule. >> kayleigh: fireside chat would not allow him to read a prompter. say it again, say it again. that is a lark to me. he blames republicans when this person has served in office for over 50 years and now just in 2023, all of a sudden, it is republicans? your vice president campaigned on fixing immigration and fixing the southern border issue. i don't take that sort of weaponized barb as anything but foolish nonsense from an amnease iac. talk about kneecapping ukraine, kneecapping has come from him. we give aid to foreign nations with strings attached like with ukraine and like we are doing with israel, we are furthering the need for more money. do it once, do it right and never do it again. that was the slogan of my bar prep, that is why i passed the bar the first time, unlike kamala harris. take advice from me and say here is aid and don't say you can't use this and you have to stand down and temper your rage. it is the reason israel and ukraine are kneecapped because of biden and it furthers the enemy interest. everything he said is unbelieve believa. >> harris: you can't miss the calendar, on purpose or incompetence? >> emily: incompetence. >> harris: that is so much worse. >> kayleigh: you cannot separate ukraine funding from domestic funding here. in the house and senate, would be okay with more ukraine funding with accountability. republicans are saying not so fast, not until you secure our southern border and things that langford and others are asking for are simple, asking for asylum standard, making heightened standard. you have to wait in a third party country and don't get into the united states and curtail president biden parole authority, he can say i'm admitting afghan refugees or people from different countries, are your tail that, these are simple things, if you want ukraine funding, start securing the abortion, both can happen, one can't happen at expense of the other. you are protecting us from national security standpoint, get in the room, mr. president, lead. >> harris: i will come back to you on this, in the news conference, cue this back up, the president was by the door and asked about james comer alleging that he received checks from his son hunter biden from an account linked to a business that received payment from china. watch this and the president's response. >> can you explain to americans, impeachment inquiry why you interacted with your son and brother's foreign business associates? >> i will not comment, i did not, that is lies. >> you did not interact with business associates? >> i did not, those are lies. >> harris: he waved goodbye. >> harris: he actually waived -- waved good-bye. >> steven had been shut out for 187 days, and you just figured out why, because he was going to ask that hunter biden, what the work the republicans are doing and biden i'm sure did not mean to call on him, i'm sure karine jean-pierre gave him a paper with an x on steven nelson's face. >> your words. >> we have seen the checks, we have seen the canceled checks that have gone to joe biden and they end up being actually 10% of the amount that was collected by the other bidens, consistent with the laptop theory, the big guy gets 10%. >> harris: a fee, finder's fee. >> hard to believe joe biden says it's all a lie. dishonesty, a lie, russian collusion, are we going to believe our lying eyes and the canceled checks and the laptop with the big guy or believe joe biden. i think the american people are smart to this man is a liar, he's gotten rich on the american dime, sold out the presidency, sold out the country to foreign countries so he could get rich off of selling our prosperity. >> harris: the move toward impeachment. >> next week, i think. >> harris: smart politically? >> it will highlight the corruption in the biden family and make it hard for joe biden to get elected. and gives donald trump a lot of ammo. >> sandra: fox news alert, any moment now the state department in moments from now will be expecting an update on the war in the