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palestinian civilians. hezbollah speaking publicly for the first time since the start of the war. his message as concerns grow of a multifront fight. also ahead, eric trump back on the stand for a second day. his contentious testimony in his family's fraud trial, and his high wire act to escape blame. and later, the crypto king found guilty on all counts, the quick deliberations in sam bankman-fried's trial and how long he could face behind bars. ♪♪ hello and thank you for joining us on this friday. it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york, and we continue with the breaking news this morning. secretary of state antony blinken back in israel meeting with the prime minister, as well as his war cabinet pushing for protections for palestinian civilians. on the ground in gaza right now, idf forces say they have encircled gaza city as israel pushes forward with its ground assault, and to israel's north, the leader of hezbollah just spoke publicly for the first time since the start of this war raising the possibility of another front opening in this already gruesome fight. nbc's jay gray is joining us from tel aviv, israel, and meagan fitzgerald is in cairo, egypt. we just heard from secretary blinken, what's his message as israeli forces encircle gaza city? >> reporter: yeah, and it's been the most powerful message we've heard from an american representative on the ground here in israel as far as a humanitarian pause is concerned. secretary blinken did start by saying that israel has not only the right but obligation to defend its citizens against terrorism, and went into detail about how that should be important, but then talked openly about the idea that the u.s. is asking for restraint right now, asking for a bit of a pause, that humanitarian pause. let's listen to what he had to say. >> as israel conducts its campaign to defeat hamas, how it does so matters. it matters because it's the right and lawful thing to do. it matters because failure to do so plays into the hands of hamas and other terror groups. i've seen images too of palestinian children, young boys and girls pulled from the wreckage of buildings. when i see that, when i look into their eyes through the tv screen, i see my own children. how can we not? >> reporter: yeah, and the secretary of state made it clear that they believe a humanitarian pause would help not only to get more aid into gaza but to get civilians out of gaza, to get foreign nationals out of gaza, and importantly he says he believes it's really important to have that pause to help with the negotiation to get hostages out of gaza. so making it very clear that's what the u.s. would like to see at this point. let's talk a little bit about what's happening on the ground in gaza at this point, and in the last 24 hours, especially overnight, we've seen the most intense fighting we've seen since this war began. as you mentioned, it appears now that idf troops have surrounded gaza city with the intent we are told to move in and take out operational facilities of hamas. and doing so the idf now says with humanitarian valves. that's their words on the chance to get civilians out of that area. they have also said that they are going to get strikes in the south and saying that most of that will be done by the air, again, to take out certain infrastructure of hamas. so to this point, we've heard emphatically and repeatedly from prime minister benjamin netanyahu that there will be no pause. there will be no cease fire. all of that, of course, before this latest trip from the secretary of state, and clearly they are ramping up what's going on on the ground and in the skies over gaza. >> jay gray in tel aviv, thank you. and meagan, you have been speaking with americans who have made it over the border from gaza into egypt. what are they telling you about the conditions right now inside gaza? >> reporter: you know, ana, the americans that we've been speaking to, it's like they're running out of adjectives to describe just how horrific the situation is inside gaza. it's deplorable. they paint a picture of suffering, of how every day people are leaving their homes searching for food, for basic needs to survive like water, and the thing is, they talk about how you could leave your home and you may not come back to your home. or you might come back to your home and your home could be gone. this is the reality that people are living with every single day inside gaza as they continue to get bombarded with bombs. i want you to listen to a little bit of the conversation that i had earlier today with an american who managed to escape with her family. >> you were in gaza with your five kids in a war zone. what was that like? >> it was awful. it was a horror movie in realtime. we went to the rafah border twice early on because we were notified that it might open, but both times there was nobody there, and everybody was -- it just wasn't opened. but today 7:00 a.m. we were notified by the state department by phone call and email that we could -- we were on the list, me and my children, but not my husband because they didn't have any british lists, but we -- we were able to go. >> reporter: and ana, in speaking to these americans that managed to get out of gaza, you know, what they had in common is they felt guilty for leaving. a lot of people leaving behind family members, and they understand that they may not ever see them again. this was the reality for people who have escaped and the struggle that they face of should they leave behind loved ones or should they go. in the case of emily, you know, she felt that she had to go because she has five young children. now, we also know that some 7,000 dual nationals will be able to leave gaza according to egyptian government officials, so we suspect that we will see the rafah border crossing open for several weeks, ana. >> meagan fitzgerald, keep us posted. thank you so much. i also want to bring in nbc's ali arouzi from tehran. ali, this speech today from the leader of hezbollah, what did he say, and for our viewers, put into context the significance of these remarks. >> reporter: hey, ana, so i should note that he's still speaking right now, but it's -- i think it's the tail end of his speech. it wasn't this all-out threat and ultimatum that everybody was expecting from the leader of hamas who usually speaks in very threatening tones. he talked about the hamas operation showing the vulnerability of israel and their weaknesses. he talked in general terms about hamas fighters and palestinian fighters that had been martyred in this war, and he praised the axis of resistance that iran has created in this region in iraq and syria and yemen for willing to take on the fight against israel. he praised them for their bravery, and he said all the attacks by the u.s. on these proxies over this last week or so have been purely to defend israel, and it shows that the u.s. is fully behind israel in this -- in this war. and he kept going on about that point. he talked about israel supposedly being the most powerful army in this region, but they were desperate for the help of the u.s. to help them fight hamas. and he said that the al-aqsa flood operation was a completely secret operation, that hezbollah didn't know about it, that iran didn't know about it, and it came as a surprise for them. but he said that operation, they had no choice but to conduct this operation, and they would have done it again and again because of the terrible conditions in gaza, and he compared it to the 33-day lebanese war with hezbollah that they see as a historical victory. so they are billing this already at this stage as a victory. he kind of insinuated that if the war was to stop now, hezbollah and iran's proxies wouldn't take it much further, and i think this all kind of chimes with iran's objectives in this region. iran has long been a meddler in this region that controls hezbollah and hamas, far from being a mediator, and they've never wanted to get their hands dirty. they wanted to keep some sort of plausible deniability. if iran and hezbollah were to get very involved in this war, it would break with a decades' long strategy of pushing red lines with the u.s., with israel, but being very careful not to get a very serious reprisal from the u.s. because it would be devastating for these two sides. but also interestingly, ana, he said that people were expecting me to declare war. he says, well, we already entered the war on the 7th when this war began. >> okay. ali arouzi with that reporting from the leader of hezbollah, again, to the north of israel. thank you very much. and let's bring in major john spencer now, he's the chair of urban warfare studies at west point's modern war institute. always good to have you with us, major. we just heard from the leader of hezbollah as ali just reported. what is your level of concern right now that this becomes a multifront war? >> i think what we were thinking hezbollah's leader might say about them entering the war didn't happen, i think this shows a sign there is deescalation. you're not going to control all these proxy groups and they're going to continue to attack. i'm actually sickened by the hezbollah leader's glorification of what was done on october 7th. that's what terrorists do. >> that's what you would expect. israel says it has encircled gaza city right now. let's focus in there. how does the fight change now for israel as they enter this city? >> yeah, it definitely gets a lot bloodier for them. they've already lost a lot of idf soldiers. some of the greatest numbers that they've lost in modern history really. this is going to be combat in hell, but they've actually progressed a lot faster than i thought they would in setting the conditions to isolate really the hamas stronghold, the hamas center of gravity, which is gaza city. they say they've encircled militarily, that means isolated so they can set the conditions to enter those block by block attacks from every direction, tunnels that they face and must face to accomplish their mission. >> what do you see as their priority in terms of strategically how they go about? this is hamas territory obviously. >> yeah, i think -- i agree with the humanitarian, strategically their biggest concern isn't the fighting. of course they're going to approach it very deliberately like they have with bulldozers and tanks and lots of fire power, but their strategic concern is getting the civilians out of the way. so i think even though the operation is continuing and won't stop, they are taking great steps because they know that all war is a contest of wills and they need the u.s. support as in the will and, you know, holding back the international condemnation of a very deliberate constrained action. they have to figure out how to move forward without increasing beyond all reasonable expectations civilian casualties. >> and you know the pictures coming out of there are just heartbreaking. the civilian casualties are growing. women and children, we know israeli strikes have hit some refugee camps damaging at least one u.n. school. reports of others as well. israel says hamas strategically has key locations in or beneath schools and hospitals and residential areas, and that that's what they're targeting. but what more can israel do right now to avoid loss of innocent lives. >> i mean, i think we believe that almost 80% of the civilians in northern gaza have successfully evacuated. the biggest thing that can be done is those evacuations continue because there is no hamas military identified buildings in gaza. they're all civilian structures. they're all underneath civilian structures on purpose to be human seals and restrict the use and create this international media international condemnation of every lethal target that is struck. and because of the modern world, we can all watch every strike, right, on the concrete structures of jabaliya, we can all see every strike and criticize it. they know that. the biggest thing we can do is continue to support the humanitarian aid getting into southern gaza and continuing all efforts safe zones, safe routes, even passage of line through combat forces, which is a thing, to get the civilians out of gaza city and the other areas in the rt >> nbc news has confirmed that the u.s. military is now flying unarmed surveillance drones over the gaza strip to try to help with hostage recovery efforts. "the new york times" was first to report this. describe how these drones are being used and is there risk to this kind of u.s. involvement? >> so the drones are used especially in reconnaissance and drilling in on the targets that are based on intelligence, and it's not a surprise to me at all that we would provide these superior like long-term loitering drones with the capability to support intelligence driven raids and identify where the hostages are. i think it's less of a risk. it is pretty much a standard thing that a drone is not boots on the ground, a drone is a drone, and many have been shot down over time. it's actually a very supportive way to support israel in recover of u.s. citizens directly without actually, you know, escalating the involvement. >> all right, major john espn spencer, i feel like we covered a lot of ground. thank you so much for joining us. when we're back in 60 seconds, eric trump is back in court in the second day of testimony in the family's civil fraud trial. the evidence that could turn his argument that he only, quote, pours concrete upside down. plus, a hearing this hour in the fulton county election interference case, what co-defendant harrison floyd is hoping to accomplish in court. also, the stunning fall of crypto king sam bankman-fried sealed with a guilty verdict. why his legal troubles are far from over. and later, we'll break down the big takeaways from the new jobs report released just a couple hours ago. bs report rele coup hleours ago this is spring semester at fairfield-suisun unified. they switched to google tools for education because there's never been a reported ransomware attack on a chromebook. now they're focused on learning knowing that their data is secure. ( ♪♪ ) right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. eric trump is back in court for the second day of testimony in the family's civil fraud trial. yesterday he pushed back against questions aboutisnvolvement in his father's financial statements. he testified, quote, i pour concrete. i operate properties. i don't focus on appraisals. let's go to the courthouse andr. also with us former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. lindsey, what more did we hear from eric trump, and what kind of questioning do we anticipate today? >> reporter: and before i get into what we heard from eric, i want to talk about what's happening in the courtroom right now because we're hearing more about the law clerk. the judge opening up the proceedings today, and i want to read from our notes from our producer. unless there is a real reason you should not mention members of my staff. remember, there's a partial gag order in the case, the judge saying the former president cannot disparage, talk about any members of his staff. he said yesterday he might expand that to attorneys over this similar back and forth we're hearing now. chris kise, trump's attorney saying how do i make complaints. the judge saying there's no bias here. he says i won't pound the table, but i reserve every right to talk to my clerk. he's referring to yesterday when he it pound on the table in his frustration. all the while this was happening yesterday, eric trump seemed kind of uncomfortable on the stand. there was something else really significant that happened in court, ana. that is the attorney general's office trying to get eric to concede that even though he has confidently stated in video deposition and on the stand that he has nothing to do with the statements of financial condition or appraisals, that he did know about them and even offered information for them at one point saying, look, we're getting -- we're a major corporation. he was getting frustrated. of course i know we have financial statements. but then there's some other things the a.g.'s office brought up like a 2021 conversation that eric didn't seem to remember. this was after he had been notified that the a.g.'s office was investigating all of this. they're trying to bring up these lapses in memory, these sort of back and forth of, okay, are you involved in these financial statements or aren't you? remember at the crux of this are those financial statements that the attorney general's office said contained over valued assets, essentially accusing trump, his sons, the trump organization, ivanka's no longer a co-defendant -- of taking part in this fraudulent years-long scheme. don jr. is done, and then the former president on monday. in fact, ana, secret service today was taking a look at everything today ahead of his visit. >> okay, lindsey reiser, lots of action here in this courthouse, thanks for the reporting. barbara, we heard eric trump argue, i pour concrete. i don't focus on appraisals. we also heard a variation of that from his brother don jr. here he is outside the courthouse yesterday following his testimony. >> before even having a day in court, i'm apparently guilty of fraud for relying on my accountants to do -- wait for it -- accounting. i mean, think about that. what does that do for literally any other business? you pay experts millions of dollars to be experts. you sign off on what they give you, and you're liable. >> so wait, they run the company. given that is deniability a plausible defense? >> yeah, what they seem to have done here is made a choice, ana. on the one hand, they could admit to fraud, and say, yes, i was very familiar with those numbers. the judge has already found about these gross misrepresentations in the values of these numbers. that's one choice. or the other choice, which they seem to have made, is to say i didn't know anything. sure, i'm the boss, but all i do is sign what gets put in front of me, and i just rely on other people to decide what those numbers are. it is, you know, at the end of the day in a civil case not going to be sufficient to overcome legal liability to say i recklessly disregarded the facts and just signed whatever got put in front of me. that is not the fiduciary duty of an officer of a corporation. so i think they're almost conceding civil liability rather than admit to fraud, which could expose them to criminal charges, and certainly damage the reputation of the company and donald trump himself. >> next week we'll hear from donald trump, also hear from theisister ivanka trump. what do prosecutors need to accomplish with that testimony? >> well, again, because the judge has already found fraud, it's really just about the valuation of these numbers. i think that they're going to find out whatever they can from donald trump. i imagine he will use a similar strategy. i'm such a busy man. i don't know if he'll say he pours concrete, which i'm sure even eric trump didn't mean to be literally true, but you know, my focus is on bigger fish to fry. i imagine we'll see a similar strategy from both donald trump and ivanka trump as we go forward. it sort of reminds me of the old ronald reagan defense, i don't know anything. i don't remember anything. i didn't know anything and i had these operatives running things mind the scenes. i'm not sure that is helpful to his reputation. >> trump's been fined $15,000 already for violating a gag order. he's been repeatedly attacking the judge, do you think he'll take a different tone on the stand? >> on the stand he may. you know, i think he's counting on his lawyers to be the ones who are the heavies here, and so whenever they are complaining about the clerk, this is, i think, all about creating a narrative that the trial was unfair to donald trump. you know, the clerk is passing notes to the judge. of course the clerk is passing notes to the judge. that's what clerks do. they are there to help the judge and assist with legal issues and be their eyes and ears while the judge is focused on the case, the clerk is observing other things and sharing information with the judge. to suggest that that is somehow nefarious, i think is just building a record so that donald trump can later say, look, the deck was stacked against me. the court and staff were biased. that is just based on a house of cards. >> barbara mcquade, thank you so much for being our guide through this trial. good to have you here. now to some new developments in the sweeping georgia election interference case. judge s mcafee in fulton county is set to hear arguments this morning from one of the 15 remaining co-defendants in this case. harrison floyd served as the executive director of black voices for trump. and he's accused ofaking part in a plot to coerce a false confession from an election worker that donald trump had accused of trying to rig the vote against him. let's bring in nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. and ken, floyd is the only co-defendant some may recall to spend some extended time in jail after he surrendered. he's now challenging the basis for his inclusion in this case and his attorneys are trying to get their hands on documents. what can we expect today? >> yeah, that's right, ana, and you know, "the atlanta journal-constitution" reported that floyd spent that time in jail because he refused an offer of bonds made in the lobby of the jail and basically begged to be booked in. that's according to a recording they obtained. he's a former marine who is charged in this case over allegations that he tried to intimidate election worker ruby freeman. floyd was also arrested in maryland on a federal warrant that accuses him of aggressively confronting two fbi agents sent to serve him with a grand jury subpoena. so this hearing is over whether he can subpoena records for his defense from the georgia secretary of state, the clerk of court, and the fulton county board of election registration. he wants this material, it's a bunch of election-related stuff, because he says it's essential to his defense, which says president trump did not lose the 2020 election in the state of georgia. he's going to argue that he can produce evidence that more than 41,000 presidential votes should have been excluded from the final fulton county vote tally because they were not and cannot be reconciled properly or validated as legitimate votes. now the government agencies say this material is not relevant to his defense. he shouldn't have it. that's what the hearing is about today, ana. >> okay, we'll be watching closely, obviously other co-defendants have surprised us when they've shown up for hearings pleading guilty instead of going forward with what was planned. four of them have now taken those guilty pleas. thank you so much for your reporting. up next on "ana cabrera reports," a jury finds sam bankman-fried guilty on all counts. new job numbers just in, what they indicate about the state of our economy. te about te state of our economy (breathing heavily) what happened? 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we saw it in specifically leisure and hospitality and health care adding 19,000 and almost 59,000 in health care respectively, but we did see a contraction in the motor vehicle and parts industry losing about 33,000 jobs in the month of october, understandably because of the strike that we saw from the united autoworkers, which as we know was recently resolved. they're back to work as of november, so that likely will reverse in the next month. now, one other thing we want to watch very closely is wage gains. even though people are getting jobs, we want to know how much they're getting paid in those jobs. the pace of wage gains, 4.2%. that yearly pace did slow down a little bit to 4.1% in the october to october period, but keep in mind, inflation 3.7%, so again, as we've seen the last few months, we have seen the pace of wages outpacing inflation, which is certainly good news. again, we want to see that number down even further from here, ana. >> don't ruin the good news there at the end. let's end on a high note today. wages above inflation. >> there you go. >> i like it. let's celebrate. thanks so much, brian. now to a sweeping guilty verdict in one of the most high profile criminal fraud cases in years. a new york city jury convicted disgraced crypto king sam bankman-fried on all counts against him after just hours of deliberations. the founder of ftx faces a sentence of up to 110 years in prison. joining us now is nbc's jake ward. jake, financial fraud cases can be so complicated, but these deliberations were really quick. what sealed sam bankman-fried's fate, do you think? >> well, you know, it is extraordinary, ana, that it was really -- it was a year ago yesterday that the first report came out that suggested that alameda research and ftx, the two entities controlled by sam bankman-fried have this unusually close relationship and one that in the end jurors decided was, you know, accounted for these seven accounts of wire fraud, securities fraud, money laundering, and that's why this guy is facing the potential of more than a century in jail. you know, the defense over and over again just tried to cast it all as, you know, a case of just mistaken accounting, and by the prosecution's estimation, sam bankman-fried said the words i do not recall about 140 times, just sort of trying to shrug his shoulders and say i don't know quite what happened here, but it was just an honest mistake. the prosecution may have convinced the jury here this was a case of someone truly swindling people out of their money to the tune of billions of dollars. that's why this man, right, 29 years old when he was estimated to be worth $26 billion is now facing the possibility of more than a century's worth of jail time here, ana. >> jake ward, thank you. up next on "ana cabrera reports," understanding the civilian cost of the israel, hamas war after a series of air strikes this week, we're taking a closer look at those refugee camps in gaza, some close to 75 years old. plus, how the war is becoming an emotional flash point on college campuses nationwide. >> do you feel like campus is more divided than ever? 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>> reporter: so i think it's, first of all, important to understand who hassan nez rel la is. he controls not just hezbollah, but he represents the most powerful armed wing of iran outside of iran. he represents hezbollah, which is -- i think it's the most powerful non-governmental militia on the planet. he also to a way speaks for other shia and iranian backed militia groups in iran and syria. so he is in a way the military wing of iran outside of iran, and he controls tens of thousands of fighters, tens of thousands of rockets. this is the first time we heard from him directly. he was speaking from an unknown location. it was a generic background. there were large crowds assembled. when he was speaking, the crowds were only hear him through a screen. this was a highly choreographed event. it has been advertised online for days. so this was a message that was carried live throughout the arab world. people were bracing for it. much of this message was directed at the united states. he said that the united states is the deciding country here, that israel is only carrying out the war against gaza. he said the united states bears full responsibility, and he said if the united states does not want a wider war across the middle east, then it must stop the attacks in gaza. he said that hezbollah would increase its attacks in northern -- into israel along the northern border, but he stopped short of saying that there was a new front. he said that what's happening now is probably not enough, but he left vague as to what -- what the group would do and when. he said it would all depend on what happens in gaza. he said the most important thing is to stop the attacks on gaza, and that is an american responsibility. he said that threats that had been received by different militia groups from iraq and syria, iranian-backed militia groups and hezbollah by the united states are making no change to his calculus, that he and his group are prepared to attack at a time and place of their choosing and that all options are on the table. he specifically congratulated militias in iraq and syria that have been attacking u.s. bases. so i think it is very likely we're going to see more attacks on those bases where u.s. troops are located in iraq and syria because he specifically congratulated them and specifically said that what they're doing is the wise and just course of action here. he also threatened israel quite specifically. he said if israel tries to take any kind of preemptive action against lebanon that it would be the worst mistake in the history of this country, in the history of israel's existence. so it was a very threatening message, most of it directed at the united states. >> interesting, thank you so much for giving us that context and that thorough reporting. richard engel, i appreciate you, thank you. up next on "ana cabrera reports," a looming clash on capitol hill, the gop-led house passes an israeli aid bill setting up a collision now with the senate and the white house. e i'm in everybodies home and my favorite homes are wayfair homes. the wayfair homes just have that razzle dazzle. they redid the guest room. all at prices you can't believe but you should and blitzen fast shipping, north pole in two days so this year go to wayfair for goodness sake. the gifts. you have one job nick. ♪ wayfair you've got just what i need ♪ when you smell the amazing scent of gain flings... time stops. 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>> republicans are posing it out of their distaste for what they will call an elected bureaucrat, so two things can be true at once, that more irs agents would help collect more in taxes from the wealthiest of americans that are the hardest for irs agents to investigate because they have armies of lawyers and accountants, and that's why you look at, you know, normal people tend to get audited more than the very wealthy, and it's just unfortunate that this bill would really be a win-win for basic fairness to have. i would welcome more irs agents just because make the people who already should be paying taxes pay, but you know, that's just not -- it's very unpalatable for republicans right now. >> congressman, president biden is facing some criticism for his handling of this war, specifically with muslim americans, who are questioning his wholesale support of israel in this moment, and they're threatening to vote against him, and we're talking to voters in swing states. >> sure. >> how do you see this impacting his re-election campaign? >> i think it's a mistake for the democratic party or for any party for that matter to look at any constituency as a fully owned subsidiary. that was certainly never the case for the muslim american community, and that's a good thing. i think it's far too early to see what is the political calculus here. of course there are some people who may be voting for president biden as a consequence of how he's dealing with this. the real question here is is his administration doing the right thing? >> what do you think? >> well, look, when you saw this terrorist attack against israel, which was exponentially worse in terms of the number of casualties than what america experienced on 9/11, israel expn terms of the number of casualties than what america experienced on 9/11, israel in any country for that matter -- >> you're talking in terms of relatively speaking based on population. >> israel has the right to defend itself and respond. but president biden's message has been consistent in regard to telling israel, advising them to learn from the mistakes that america made over the course of the 21st century in terms of our response to 9/11, where many instances our response created more terrorists than it killed. the goal has to be to render hamas absolutely incapable of ever doing something like this again if not absolutely destroying the organization. but that requires using all the tools at israel's disposal and america's disposal. and joe biden has been very consistent in terms of advising israel in that regard. >> and obviously at least there is still a year before the general election. a lot can happen between now and then. what are your thoughts about the potential impact, especially in those swing states? >> well, just looking at what happened in 2000, where president george w. bush won the muslim american vote. and in 2004, he didn't t was an aftermath of -- in the middle of the war on terror and muslim americans shifted away from the republican party. so, you look at a state like wisconsin where it is the state that matters. the candidate who wins wisconsin is going to win the next presidential election. and there is a muslim american population around 70,000. and the last two elections have been decided by around 20,000 votes in wisconsin. trump getting 22,000 more than biden around the same margin. so does the muslim american vote matter in 2024? yes, definitely. and it certainly is early, but it is something that could have a real impact. >> real quick, i want to ask you about what is happening in the senate with republican tommy tuberville continuing to block military promotions over the pentagon's policy dealing with abortions and his fellow republicans are not happy about this, because of the impact on the military right now. and now there is more controversy after tuberville's spokesperson privately floated primary challengers for senators who vote to end run tuberville's blockade. what is your reaction to this? >> it is hilarious to me that tommy tuberville thinks he's powerful enough that he's going to be able to fund-raise and help primary other republicans. yes, this policy of his, you know, blocking the military from buying new arms and weapons systems that they need and blocking these new personnel appointments at a critical time for national security, his policy might have juiced his fund-raising slightly b up he's still only raised half a million off of it over the last six months or so. so, do i see him as some heavyweight that is going to be able to go in and primary republicans? no. >> i'll leave it there today. this issue is not going away. >> he's a joke. >> thank you, guys. good to have you here. up next on "ana cabrera reports," campus divisions over the israel-hamas war. how colleges are facing intensifying pressure to meet this emotional moment. this emot. right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. 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