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for you, okay. and then we'll show you how difficult guys, how difficult this puzzle was for these folks to solve, guys, okay? >> another feather your another feather in your lap another rather yes, in your map? >> okay. >> mr. cooper? mr. cooper, i know that you are a jeopardy fan. okay. yeah. but can you get this puzzle and prove to us that you can do wheel of fortune, please, for the love of god another feather in your cap i know you're jeopardy guy, but i feel like you'd go on wheel of fortune, maybe ryan seacrest can invite you on on the celebrity addition. >> maybe we can do a joint team together. >> and i don't think so. yeah. >> i thought we were coming together. i think brian secrets can do a great job. >> i hope so as well, but at least vanna white will be there for some which i'm very excited. yes, absolutely. >> ariane, thanks. have a great weekend. the news continues right here on cnn how frown next defending democracy. >> president biden making that a cornerstone of his campaign as he takes on trump who is doubling down on his calls for revenge, plus exotic vacations, a private jet supreme court justice clarence thomas finally admitting that the lavish trips they were paid for by a republican megadonor, the reporter who first expose the trips is my guest. and an outfront exclusive for the first time we take you inside the unprecedented security operation now underway to protect one of the biggest political events. >> let's go out front good evening. >> i'm briana keeler in for erin burnett outfront tonight. biden takes on trump, the president defending democracy today on the world stage, while the former president was on on social media attacking the american justice system, president biden in france to commemorate the 80th anniversary of d-day. but sending a very clear message to voters at home. biden didn't use trump's name, but he made it abundantly clear who he was talking about. >> we talk about democracy. american democracy we often talk about the ideals of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness well, we don't talk about is how hard it is. how many ways we're asked to walk away, how many instincts are to walk away? the most natural instinct is to walk away to, be selfish, to force our will upon others to seize power. never give up american democracy asks the hardest of things to believe. that we're part of something bigger than ourselves so democracy begins levers, begins when one person decides there's something more important themselves something more important than themselves. >> a clear message to trump who seem to spend the day posting over and over on social media about himself, about how unfair his criminal trial in new york was, even though an independent jury found him guilty, not about how to help the country, but rather for how to help himself and get revenge on his enemies those he falsely claims per persecuted and prosecuted him it's a theme he can't stop talking about look, when this election is over, based on what they've done i would have every right to go after them. revenge, just take time. i will say that as does and sometimes revenge can be justified. so i have to speed sometimes they can. >> it's terrible, terrible path that they're leading us to add. it's very possible that it's going to have to happen to them kayla tausche is out front end paris tonight and kayla, you were there with the president in normandy. he was sending a very clear message brianna it was a clear message and for american voters, it was also a very familiar one. the fragile future of democracy has been a central tenant of biden's presidency, as well as his reelection campaign. and he's given at least half dozen speeches. on this topic in front of union station at philadelphia's independence hall on the anniversary of the january 6 attacks. and at the mccain institute in arizona. and every single time he has tried to stress it, there's urgency behind the issue and that there is a lot at stake. and yet in each of those instances the electorate, it hasn't moved the needle for them, but what was different today was the imagery standing atop those cliffs with the crystal blue waters and the english channel, and being able to vision visualize the bravery of those young men. and perhaps most importantly, during this election, referencing an event where the facts are not in dispute in the annals of history, what happened on d-day and what happened? happened in world war ii is not subject to interpretation. so that's what the president was really trying to get at to target the heartstrings of voters and tried to make this, this speech that changes their minds. it evoked lot of ronald reagan who made that very strikingly similar speech 40 years ago. and his speech writer, peggy noonan, wrote in her memoir that what she was trying to do was to drive i get teenagers to look up in their rice crispy and think about the tough kids who were in world war ii, who are now their grandparents. but most importantly, it she was trying to prove to them that history is real. and i think it's safe to say briana that that was president biden's goal today, not only to prove that history is real, but that in his belief, it's repeating itself. brianna kayla. thank you for that report from paris and out front now, quentin fulks the principal deputy campaign manager for the biden harris 2024 campaign. quentin, why was it so important to president biden to give that speech today? >> well, if there was important for president biden to go and give that speech because democracy, is at stake. he wanted to honor d-day. he wanted to honor the americans who sacrifice at all scaling those cliffs that were just mentioned to save democracy, to root out fascism in authoritarianism across the globe. and they were successful. and it's something that we have have to continue to work towards every day. i am meanwhile, while president biden is leading on the world stage, honoring the men and women who changed the course of history in this country, we see donald trump returned to the trail as a convicted felon, doubling down on threats of political violence and extremism, i believe at least four times this week, he talked about jailing his political enemies and revenge. he's only in this campaign for himself and retribution because that's all he wakes up thinking about. he is obsessed with it. he is unhinged. he has snapped, he's pledging to be a dictator. he's calling for a bloodbath. he's using the language of nazi germany that is what donald trump thinks that he thinks that the men and women who sacrificed their lives for this country are suckers and losers. and so the contrast that american voters saw this week and today, specifically, i can not be more greater of justification of the character of the two men and the focus of the two men who are running to be president of the united states biden made the case today in his speech for ukraine's fight against russia and he made the case for us support for that. he also apologized to president zelenskyy for the delay in american military aid. but when you look at a recent quinnipiac university poll, it found only 2% of americans rank the russia, ukraine war is their top issue. how do you engage people on that when there's so disinterested in it well, look, i think that one we have to follow the leadership of president biden because he knows with the experience that he has that this is important, that democracy is fragile and that we had to keep working we continue it. >> meanwhile, on the other side, donald trump says that russia should be able to do whatever the hell they want to. nato allies. that's a stark contrast and look when it comes to the polls, the only thing that we should take away from any type of polls is that this contest is going to be in the margin of error and the campaign that is going to win as the campaign that's putting in the work and is running on the issues that matter to american voters the most. and when it comes to the work, i'm very proud of the fact that we've got an infrastructure all across our battleground states to be able to communicate with voters. and we're spending our resources to do that. and when it comes to the issues, president biden wakes up every single day working to bring down the cost of goods, continue to lower inflation across this country. rent, mortgage affordability. those are the things that we're talking about. and honestly talking about actual americans and the sacrifices that they're making in their daily lives unlike donald trump, who again, is just continuing to double down and talk about himself. that's the only thing he cares about. and he won't let anything stand in his way to get what he wants speaking of close pull numbers, when you look at that same quinnipiac university poll 50% of registered voters believed that biden, who has made the issue of democracy obviously a top issue in his campaign will be better at preserving democracy, but 43% think trump will be better. >> quentin, you see there only a seven point difference. and that is with someone who tried to overturn the last election, how do you combat that? >> week about it by continuing to put in the work i'm american voters rejected donald trump because they seem the type of leader that he's going to be they seen him giveaway trade secrets. they've seen him put our men and women in uniform in danger during his entire presidency, americans remember what it was like to wake up and wonder if donald trump was going to start a war, war for because he was tweeting he is unhinged. and again, he has no business being anywhere near the white house since our campaign is going to continue to double down continued to make sure that the president and the vice president are surrogates are getting front of americans where they are talking to them about the issues that matter. most. and most importantly, again, that go into presidents remarks that democracy requires something from all of us and it's the only requirement is that we don't just think about ourselves in democracy. and that's something that donald trump has proven time and time again that he has completely and utterly and incapable of doing since trump has been convicted on 34 felony counts, he has been claiming with i'd evidence that the judicial system is being weaponized against him to help biden win the election. >> here's some of what he's saying you have to straighten out what's going on. >> are these sports we've got a rig deal going. they are doing it for the purposes of hurting a political opponent of biden. we're dealing against these system that is so corrupt. it's so bad, it's making our justice system look so bad now, despite that being untrue, do you worry at all that it's muddying the waters with some voters on the question of who will better protect democracy? not at all. donald trump is a convicted felon. and here's the latest proof point that he will do anything in his power, including break the law to get what he wants and he won't stop at anything to do it. and so we have to continue to make sure that we are talking to american voters about the issues at hand. donald trump, if he cared at all hall about this, he wouldn't be going around continuing to incite political violence and real and on the american judicial system, he would not think that he is above the law and would not think that he's above being held accountable. he wouldn't go out and the first thing that he does after he hits the campaign trail is campaigning with charlie kirk, unknown white's premises, and jaume are pio, somebody who's gone to jail for literally systematically targeting latinos. those are the people that donald trump's around. some cells with. and so again, the contrast is incredibly clear as the two opposing visions of this country. and again, we've not heard donald trump talk about any policy that would impact americans lives. he is only talking about himself, his legal troubles because because that's all he thinks about. he's obsessed with it. and he's only in this campaign to try to regain power and he will break the law to do it so that he can get out of trouble. >> he was talking about some policy, some border policies in his most recent campaign, stop along with other issues. i know certainly you disagree with him on that policy, but he did spend some time on it quentin? >> folks. thank you so much for being with us. we do appreciate it thank you now, i want to bring in former republican congressman charlie dent. charlie, you heard biden there. and what a backdrop there. he was evoking the bravery of american soldiers on d-day. he was urging america and the world to protect freedom, defend democracy yet clear contrast to trump, even if he didn't use his name, what do you think who do you think? i should say this speech was intended for well, it's certainly the speech was intended for the american public to try to raise or elevate the issue of democracy, of course, with the backdrop of normandy and point the hock are our greatest generation. >> so many of them stood up to hitler and his third reich, which was the greatest threat to human freedom and democracy than perhaps ever dark and then staying pages of human history. so i think that was his message and it's clear that democracy is under threat, not just in the united states, but in europe, european parliamentary elections, the liberal populist movements or are gaining traction there too. >> and so i think that's what this is about, but we have to remember though a lot of voters are not necessarily looking at this as the most important issue there. >> they're thinking about their looking at other immediate issues like the cost of groceries, housing, mortgage rates. of course the border, there are a lot of issues that are more immediate maybe to voters than this one as important as it is the issue of democracy it isn't the top issue on voter's minds in that reason, quinnipiac university pull of course, the economy is it's not too distant a second though, which voters do you think this message might specifically persuade? >> is there a slice of voters that you think this might appeal to it's clear that joe biden is trying to appeal. >> i think to what he might see as persuadable voters. but it's important to remember that many persuadable voters are somewhat transaction like i said, i think many of them are worried about the economy gasoline prices, housing prices. these are, these are issues front of mine, the border. and so i think for biden, he needs to make sure that democracy and the rule of law threat to democracy is an immediate issue. and is something that they consider sure. as they go into the voting booth, it's unclear whether that message will work. it might it work for say, josh shapiro in pennsylvania against doug mastery yato, where shapiro talked about democracy and threats, the peaceful transfers of power, rule of law the constitution that did matter, as well as woman's reproductive rights. it work there. will it work in 2024 with joe biden it remains to be seen, but clearly in my estimation right now, democracy issue one side thinks that the other side is a threat to democracy. both sides think the other is a threat to democracy. so it's somewhat cuts both ways in the minds of many in the public and the pull numbers show that when you look at the democracy numbers, congressman charlie dent, we appreciate your time. >> thank you thank you, your honor out front next, some democrats who were leaning towards donald trump, that's right democrats leaning towards donald trump are now having second thoughts after the former president was convicted in new york, i'm going to talk to one of those voters next plus an emotional day in court in the hunter biden gun trial, his daughter, trembling as he testified, hunter biden wiping away tears, what she told the jury and career government officials, walking away from their jobs because of what they claim is an attempt to to downplay the 4s in gaza sleep sealed the sheiks difference is real from the light to the dark. >> hold back all in exhale hat dann no, ma'am so chill all night on a cloud, like a feather smooth, soft, nothing better. just write on the night visit, try sheiks.com and get 25% off this father's day with this 60 guarantee we need your help. >> go online, call or scan this code to support wwf's global conservation efforts by symbolically adopted in an elephant for only $12 a month it's just $0.40 a de to protect wildlife and their habitats do it in the next five minutes and you'll get this free adopted get with this plush keepsake go online, call, or scan to help make a difference today sure i'm a paid actor and this isn't a real company, but there's no way to fake cop work can help your business. such talent all over the world with over 10,000 skills, you may not have in-house more than 30% of the fortune 500 use upwork because this that's how we work now my melisma made me feel really ugly. i didn't recognize myself in the mirror. i just hated taking photos. >> how am i ever going to get rid of it? 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trump's former white house chief of staff. we do an enter a plea of not guilty, also entering a not guilty plea. trump campaign operative, mike roman, could you state your name, please? >> michael roman. >> roman and meadows both face charges in multiple states and the fake elector scheme aimed at overturning the 2020 election results in arizona and in georgia, roman, also this week was indicted in wisconsin the state cases. all date back to an alleged plan hatched and the days and weeks after trump lost his last reelection bid, with the underside being the duly elected and qualified electors in arizona calling themselves electors. these 11 people assembled on december 14, 2020 to declare the state's winner. >> donald j. trump, of his state of florida. number a bonus 11 but joe biden had won arizona arizona prosecutors say meadows, roman, and other trump allies charged in april, like former trump attorney john eastman. i of course, pled nag guilty and current rnc election integrity council. christina bobb will deal with the case coordinated fake electors in arizona and other swing-state attempting to keep trump in power. perhaps the most well-known or the 18 indicted by arizona is former trump lawyer rudy giuliani who say arizona prosecutors dodge them for weeks as they tried to serve him court papers. >> there are so incompetent, they can find me they also can't count votes correctly live streaming has taunts right thing. until arizona agents caught up with giuliani and he said his 80th birthday in florida now has two weeks to appear in person in court and post a $10,000 bond giuliani so far hasn't indicated exactly when he'll be heading to arizona, the maricopa county sheriff's department tells us that he hasn't yet been processed for that mug shot or fingerprints that he is required to do briana. >> we did check in to see where he was live streaming from today. he's in the state of michigan brianna. >> very interesting. qiong. thank you for that report. and donald trump himself still staring down three other criminal trials after his conviction in his hush money trial out front. now, one voter from a key swing state who is now rethinking his support for trump in the wake of his conviction in new york eric tapers with this now from georgia, eric, thank you for being with us thank you for having me. so you are a democrat and first off, let's talk about why after voting, clinton in 2016. and for biden in 2020, you were planning to vote initially planning to vote for trump this fall. why? were you leaning in that direction well, one of the things is the economy. >> and i felt like trump would do a better job improving the economy here in the united states, not just in georgia, but united states and the gridlock in congress is another thing. it seems like trump can kind of push a lot of things thanks through congress where biden could not are you having a change of heart now about donald trump, tell us why there's several things. >> first off, his conviction president should be beyond reproach that's my one of my biggest things. he, you know, a president, someone sitting in the chair should command respect to to pay hush money and do that kind of thing. that's not presidential if i believe in honesty, first and foremost, if you say if you go ahead and admit if you do something, just go ahead and own up to it and be nobody we'll get upset with you for making a mistake is it the conviction which was for falsifying documents or is it the paying hush money and not fessing up to it? for me. it's you know, it's both but i do get upset because my my biggest thing i want my president to be a man of integrity so the former republican lieutenant governor of your state, geoff duncan says, he disagrees with many of biden's policies, but says that he's still going to support biden over trump here. >> he's explaining why let's listen i'm voting for a decent person that i disagree with on policies over a criminal defendant who has no moral compass. donald trump needs to get beat. we need to move on as a party. we need to move on as a country now, what do you think about what he's saying is that something that you agree with i agree with. >> i agree with him wholeheartedly in he's he's reiterating what i was saying you know, you have, you know, being a president, you have to be a man of integrity so if it is not biden and it is not trump, who would you vote for if the election were today? >> i've actually started looking into robert kennedy jr. i think he's running as an independent and he seemed so far a man of integrity in my opinion why is that and what about his policies du like i'm still researching a lot of his policies and looking to see one of his things as he's trying to separate the conglomerate of between corporations and states and government in trying to break that apart and break that romance that love affair part so do you worry at all that he might be a spoiler in this race that he actually cannot win but that he could maybe push the election towards one candidate or the other is both the biden and trump campaigns have said that he will in one of the things i like to look at during the 60s, during the civil rights movement, there was a slogan, one man, one vote so if you want to vote your conscience, a vote for the person or policy that is more in tune of what you want to vote for. that's the way you go. you don't worry about how it's skewed. you voted your conscience, you voted your mind one man, one vote eric taber, we really appreciate your insights, obviously, voters and georgia are very much the target audience of all of these campaigns. >> and it's great to hear your thoughts. thanks for being with us. >> thank you for having me and outfront next, a supreme court justice finally, owning up to the luxurious gifts he received from a republican billionaire including a rather exotic vacation. will porter, who helped break this story is next plus hunter biden's own daughter taking the 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dogs with a history of these >> call 1803 558999, or visit home serve.com like it's hard thank you. new tonight, clarence thomas comes clean partially anyways, the supreme court justice formally disclosing a lavish 2019 trip to bali, indonesia that was paid for by gop megadonor named harlan crow and his wife, thomas, who you see here in photos from the trip saying the crows paid for his so hotel and lodging. it's a trip that was first reported on last year by propublica that tom has previously said he was not required to disclose out front. now, propublica is josh caplan who broke the story, shining a light on posh travel, accepted by justices josh, thanks for being here and i wonder if you think the justice thomas would have ever disclosed these trips if it wasn't for your reporting i mean, it's impossible to say for sure, but history would suggest otherwise, i mean, there's a pattern here with this defense. >> this is today is at least the third time that thomas has failed to follow federal disclosure law we or someone else has uncovered it and made it public for him. and then facing possible government investigation thomas has said, oops, it was an honest mistake, or i misunderstood the rules justice thomas also disclosed a trip that same month that the crows paid for to this exclusive club known as bohemian grove in sonoma county in california. >> tell us why that particular disclosure stands out to you? >> yeah. i mean, so one of the strangest things about today's filing is that we know that thomas accepted many, many free luxury vacations that he did not disclose from billionaire. so at the bohemian grove for instance, he we know of at least six undisclosed trips. he's taken there over the years with harlan crow but in this filing, he only discussed two trips why? >> those two are not the rest, why one of the booking and grove trips bint up the other ones that are public. >> we have no idea, frankly, he decided not to explain this is the first disclosure after this new court ethics code that was instituted in november. >> our today's disclosures assign that the code is working or the the code is not enough, or that it was just reporting that move this in this direction i think the fundamental issue here is that for all its power, the supreme court has less transparency, less oversight. >> still even after the new code, weaker ethics rules, then essentially any other part of the federal government and how thomas, has decided to handle these disclosure controversies is i think a manifestation of that when it comes to potential conflicts of interest or even federal ethics law, as in this case, each supreme court justice has been left to him or her south to decide what's okay what's not okay. and how to deal with potential violation josh, it is great to have you. >> thank you so much, josh caplan with propublica thanks for having me on also tonight, hunter biden, wiping away tears in court as his daughter, naomi, took the stand naomi appearing very uncomfortable, trembling, also tearing up as she testified, telling the jury about visiting her dad in rehab and a late-night text that he sent her around the time that he bought his gun saying, quote, i can't take this. i miss you so much and i just want to hang out. naomi also testifying, quote, things got bad for hunter biden following the death of her uncle, beau biden, and that she did not see her father used drugs at any point in 2018? i want to go straight to evan perez. he is outside the courtroom delaware right now and evan, a hunter biden's first real display of emotion during these proceedings, you were in that room, how powerful was naomi his testimony today it was the most powerful testimony that we've seen in this trial. >> look, you've seen a lot of low points for hunter biden displayed before this sure. you've seen pictures of him with drug paraphernalia on behind him, passed out on a bed. you've seen all of these text messages where he's talking about buying drugs so to have his daughter come in and try to limit or at least undo some of the damage done by hallie biden, who was beau biden's width? and who he dated back in this period in 2018 was a really important thing for the defense to try to do. she said that in 20 hey, 18, when he was going to some rehab she said, i was hopeful and she thought that he looked a lot better than he had looked at in the past the prosecution in cross-examination, got her to acknowledge that she didn't see any of this paraphernalia. and so she has no idea where it might have ended up in the trial. on october 23 when hallie biden found the gun in his truck and panicked and decided that she is to get rid of it, which here's why hunter biden is now on trial. there were 11 days where he owned this gun, where he had this gun in his possession. and the government says that is a crime. and so now we expect briana that the defense is going to spend the weekend deciding whether they need to put hunter biden on the trial on the stand to testify on his own fence. that is a big decision. that's going to date on monday and we expect that the jury will get this will get this case early. part of next week, and the big part for the defense is to just focus their attention on that period in october where know you only biden says she didn't see him using any drugs will have to see in the days ahead here, evan perez. thank you for that report. for life for us from wilmington criminal defense attorney marco mirra is with us now mark hunter biden, emotional today, tearing up is his daughter testified naomi biden told the jury more about seeing her father and the weeks leading up to his gun purchase. she described his treatment is having just said for addiction and his sobriety saying, quote, he seemed great he seemed hopeful. she also said she never saw him doing drugs. how effective was she? for hunter biden's defense i think why it's very impactful. >> i truly do. first of all, it's a daughter and that's going to sit with the jury plus what she said was not as much factually. right. but it's the hope it's the hope that she has for her data. so hope that her dad had for himself and they're trying to focus that on that period of time because obviously you augment is i did not know i was addicted. therefore, when i signed the document that we are signed it, i sounded honestly and openly because it not think i was an addict. so the daughter really helps in that regard. it is somewhat thinly veiled target the heartstrings as well. and again, you have to be careful with that with the jury, with the strength of the prosecution case so far mark the defense says they haven't decided if hunter biden is going to testify, they have until monday to make that decision. do you think that he needs to take the stand so there's different ways to look at the analysis. >> one, if they convictions a foregone conclusion, then you don't have much to lose. try it work for the sympathy, worked for the reasonable doubt. the other analysis and one you have to be very careful of as the defense team is prosecutors will pray over the weekend that hunter biden gets on the stand because the client the defendant, is always that the government's best witness because he will undergo such cross-examination, will very qualified prosecutors that he will probably vary himself and may well just fell always more doubt. i'm not saying that just about hunter biden most defendants end up doing that. so that's gonna be one tough decision. of course, hunter biden will make it in the final analysis, but it is full of risks. if he gets before that jury so we're now a weekend of this. how do you think the jury is leaning after what you have seen that they've seen the state, the government has put on an extraordinarily strong case. most of it, of course, came from forensics write it came from the laptop more than anything else. the text messages but everything we know that convictions occur in the past 1015 years because of digital evidence, more than almost any other evidence as well. yes, they need drug tests. yes, they need an fbi agent, but that laptop and everything that came from it and all other digital evidence is so strong in this case that i think the government has a strength that may not even be overcome with the argument that reasonable doubt has not been extinguished. >> mark. oh, mira, thank you so much for being with us great for our next a special report on top government officials who've all quit their jobs and are now banding together to force change in washington. and an outfront exclusive, we take you behind closed doors. were security officials are preparing to protect one of the larger this political events from a deadly attack i think everyone has a sense that the threats are real make this assembler to share and save during the qia summer sticker sales event in a three row keys are renting the tech forward sportage the available all wheel drive celtics or the iihs top safety pick 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readying four john miller is outfront the democratic national convention is always a security challenge but given the backdrop of a world engaged in two wars, terrorist propaganda calling for a tax on us soil. >> that's a significant concern and protests sweeping being cities and campuses. >> this year is convention in chicago has the secret service pulling out all the stops. >> i think there are expecting around 50,000 people all total. that would be involved in either attending the event, working the event, or participating in the event in some way, the secret service has been designated to be an overall command of security planning. >> the lone gunman. >> you've got folks that are radicalized. you've got demonstrations that may pop up and, you know, obviously we hope they remain peaceful here, but they could turn violent and that the worst chicago has a history at the 1968 democratic national convention with a backdrop of the vietnam war. >> there were violent clashes between police and protesters chicago police were blamed for escalating the violence it's a history. they have worked hard to overcome. >> this isn't 1960. there have been advances in policing. if you look at the technology that we have now there's a for an approach. >> we met chicago police superintendent larry snelling at the crime prevention and information center or the cpic it's a 24/7 commence center where they will monitor all convention-related events, including protests citywide multiple agencies will have representation within the command center, including the fbi atf, and state police. so if there is an incident, they can coordinate and deploy resources swiftly. here in this vast open area of the chicago convention center, weeks ahead of the democrats chronic national convention, the chicago police are practicing with their mobile field forces chicago police officers were drilled through different scenarios. they've encountered violent protests medical rescue, how to extract someone from a hostile crowd shield training if the officers are being pelted with rocks and bottles and bicycle teams that can move rapidly through crowded streets and form a barricade what chicago police say the officers we are looking at here with helmets and batons will be kept behind the scenes unless they're needed. >> we don't want to have conflicts with people if we don't have to, we don't want to clash with people if we don't have to people come i'm here to express themselves by all means. do but do it according to the law. and du, peaceful. it's that simple. once you start to break the law then we have to restore the peace. >> the officers also received constitutional and legal training on the first amendment, the right to protest, but also how to follow the complex procedures that come into play with mass arrests situations that convention has a large footprint prime-time programming, it's speeches will be held at the united center while daytime democratic party business meetings and briefings will be held at mccormick place the official security perimeter is still in development, but the secret service has released general impact maps outlining how residents and businesses could be affected did but the secret service says, the security blanket is necessary. >> well, i think everyone has a sense that the threats are real. this is not an academic exercise that there were running through. we are planning for real-world possibilities and are we looking at everything that we need to look at and planning? and in accordingly john, this is a huge security effort. what stood out to you most about it? >> well, for kim cheatle, the director of the secret service, who we just heard from this is an ns sc that's national special security event that puts us secret service in overall charge of coordinating this effort with the fbi taking on the role of intelligence and counter terrorism with female standing in the wings for consequence management, if something natural man-made or criminal happens so just the massiveness of the effort. and of course, the chicago pd is the big dog in this crowd because they have the thousands of cops that are going to be on the front lines and behind the scenes. and coordinating all of that is a lot, but you and i were both at at the global threats summit overseas recently and we heard the threat stream. you've got al-qaeda propaganda calling for lone wolves. ice is launching attacks and multiple countries so they have their concerns, which is why they spent so much time planning yeah, i think that's the thing. >> there are so many threats. they have to plan for everything. they have to be right to keep everyone safe. and it is quite a tall order. >> john miller. thank you so much for taking us inside of that. it was really fascinating to see what they have underway there appreciate it. >> thanks for joining us. the news continues now on cnn happening now, president biden stands, were american heroes risked their lives and world 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