♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. prosecutors are on a fervent, if somewhat frustrating quest, to dig into ivanka trump's history at the trump organization. that trial just broke for a lunch break, but so far the former first daughter was unable to recall many details, not giving the attorney general's team much help as they probe her family's alleged fraud. we'll have a live report in just a minute. plus, election night 2023, want to favor democrats, but as the election sielk l comes to an end, how the dems learn the lessons from last night and turn it into a winning formula for next year. and can president biden ride the borks issue back to the white house. their friendship goes back nearly 40 years but could tie between president biden and bibi netanyahu be crumbling under the weight of war. new reporting on what could be a new deal to ease tensions and get help into gaza. but we start with ivanka trump on the witness stand today forced to testify in her family's $250 million civil fraud trial, essentially reliving a life she tried to leave behind. while her testimony has lacked the fireworks her father provided, it also hasn't been as fulsome as prosecutors might have liked. ivanka trump saying at least 30 times she does not recall details about emails, meetings, conversations or documents from her time with the company. in fact, she left the trump organization nearly seven years ago, and tried to avoid testifying altogether, but this morning attorney general letitia james says she's still, quote, inextricably tied to the trump organization. >> she will attempt today to distance herself from the company, but unfortunately the facts will reveal that, in fact, that she was very much involved. we uncovered the scheme and she benefitted from it personally. >> i want to bring in sue craig as "new york times" investigative reporter. she was inside the courtroom. msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin also just left the courtroom. paul butler is a former federal prosecutor, georgetown law professor, and msnbc legal analyst. peter baker is "new york times" chief white house correspondent, and look who's here in studio, michael steele, former rnc chairman, both peter and michael are msnbc political analysts. good to see you all, lisa, this is the first time you've been able to come out of court since the last break. what's happening inside there? >> reporter: we are seeing an ivanka trump who, as you know, chris, doesn't remember much, but i want to go against what some folks are saying as a conclusion about that. this has actually been remarkably effective testimony for the attorney general, not because of what ivanka trump says but because in sitting there, they are able to show her a number of documents that she is on and use them then as evidence in the case and build a narrative, and the narrative goes something like this. the trump organization was not able to obtain financing for a number of its deals on terms they found acceptable to them. why? because trump was a credit risk in commercial real estate lenders and private equity firms and all sorts of other people who might have loaned him money ran away. and jared kushner introduced ivanka trump to a banker in the private wealth management group at deutsche bank. the narrative that the attorney general wants the judge to see is that again and again and again, ivanka trump was involved in deals where they couldn't obtain financing from other sources on favorable terms, so they went to deutsche bank whose private management group was willing to lend to them on two conditions. the conditions were this, we'll give you a lower interest rate and one that you like, but you've got to give us a personal guarantee that you can cover the principal and the interest on the loan as well as the operating income of this asset you're about to operate, and on top of that, you've got to meet a minimum net worth requirement of at least 2 to $3 billion. and ivanka trump had an email with a gentleman named jason green blat who was a lawyer at the trump organization she was showed. in it she basically says this is as good as it gets, and greenblatt responds what about the net worth requirement, that's going to be an issue for us. and ivanka says, absolutely, but we knew that. i think this has been a tremendously effective couple of hours for the attorney general's office, although you wouldn't know it by sitting in the courtroom and listening to her say again and again, politely as always, i don't recall. >> part of this too is we're used to her dad, and donald trump was to say the least over the top on the stand. what do you make of her demeanor, and do you agree that actually she really helped the prosecution's case? >> i think she's helped them not so much necessarily on what she's saying on the stand, but the documents that are going up, the emails and back and forth of her knowledge of the financials and what was required to get this loan, it's been all morning. we've been rolling through two main projects are really the hotel in washington she was involved in in doral and over and over we can see just how involved she was, but her demeanor, it's how she's been the opposite of her father. she's been answering very politely. she often does say i don't recall, she smiles after she says i don't recall often. and there was one, even one moment where the judge stopped and just thanked the audio-visual people in the courtroom for just the great job they're doing in keeping this trial running smoothly by getting the documents up and ivanka turned to him and agreed and said, yes, it's very impressive indeed. she's doing everything she can to be polite and courteous. this is the polar opposite of what we saw from her father earlier this week. >> chris, can i add just one point there? >> sure. >> reporter: after she says she doesn't recall particular events like meetings that she set up or attended or particular documents, she's also careful to say -- and you know, in some cases have been forced to say -- but i don't quibble with what the document says. i don't quibble that this was my email, that this was my signature, that i attended such a meeting. so yes, she doesn't remember, but nor is she presenting a narrative that's contrary to the one that the attorney general can establish through documents. and that also makes her a remarkably different witness than her father and even to some extent than her brothers. >> yeah, i mean, paul -- >> chris, just one other note -- >> no, go ahead, sue. >> no, no, just one other note i think is really important. there has been so much sparring about whether or not she should even be in urt co. she appealed it. she's not a defendant in this. she was called as a witness, and during her testimony at one time, she had to leave the courtroom because there was just arguments about whether or not some of these documents should even be let in because they're from 2011 and '12, they're outside the statute of limitations limit, and the judge came down on that and said, you know, while it may be some of the initial emails and documents are, they had to continue to resubmit the documents. so he's letting it in, but this is going to be an argument that's going to be heard going through the appellate courts, and there's a lot of objections going on around her testimony because some of it was, you know, the things that are being asked to address were so long ago. >> paul, that was a question i had for you, how much of this do you think is about this actual case? because we already know that the judge has ruled that fraud occurred here -- and how much of it, at least on the side of the trump family, is about setting themselves up potentially and in this case maybe ivanka helps them set themselves up for an appeal? >> yeah, so the judge has already ruled that the trump organization is liable for fraud, so the issue now is how much money they have to pay in damages in this case, ivanka wasn't so much cast as a high level executive, but letitia james was looking at her as the ultimate inside woman, someone who had knowledge about particular deals and someone who profited off particular deals. we're hearing a lot of i don't remember, but i agree with lisa, what we're also hearing is corroboration that donald trump was misleading at best and fraudulent at worst about his net worth and that the company rely on his net worth in order to get favorable terms for its deals. and so she's kind of low key snitching on her dad. >> low key snitching. >> i like that. >> let me ask you about what you make of ivanka trump. look, when she testified before the january 6th committee, she said she agreed with bill barr. she said her dad did not win the 2020 election. we don't see a huge break here, but neither is she saying, oh, i don't remember this at all. as we just heard, she's saying, oh, yeah, this is my email. oh, yeah, i do recognize this document. >> yeah, the idea that ivanka's going to split with her dad to me has always been sort of an amusing folly by those who are out there thinking that, you know, she's going to break because of some of the things that she did in the past, like you just exampled. but the reality of it is this is very different from that. that was politics, and that's a space that she never really wanted to play in anyway, and she wanted to get out of it as quickly as possible. you know, our network and others reported, you know, her desire to get back to new york because this culturally was where she wanted to be, the politics was washington. this now, this trial is about the business. this is about the family business. this is about what they do. this is about her legacy, what's going to be left to her when dad is no longer there. so the idea that she's going to now come in and, she may say, yeah, i acknowledge that's my signature. i acknowledge that that email came from my office, but i'm not going to give you the specifics you need and want to verify that connection back to daddy, back to the business as a whole, so she's doing sort of that sort of blocking attack lane so the safeguarding the family position as much as she can while at the same time seeming to cooperate. >> so peter, ivanka hired her own lawyer separate from the legal team representing the rest of her family, and a person with knowledge of the situation told your newspaper that it rankled some folks in the former president's camp. what more can you tell us about that? >> yeah, of course it did, obviously. it does send a signal that she does have her own interests to think about and those are not necessarily those of her family. she was originally a defendant in this case, appealed it, got out of the case thanks to the appeals court ruling and she is not in the same position as the rest of the family. now, look, you know, this is a culmination of a really interesting three-year evolution for ivanka trump. in the days after the 2020 election, she and jared kushner basically washed their hands of the trump white house. they decided just days after the election they were going to move to miami. they began looking for real estate, looking for a school. they did not really buy into this whole challenge the election thing. they basically humored her father and jared kushner, in fact, told republican operatives in washington. let him go through it, it will be fine. in the end he'll come to his senses in effect was what he said, and ever since then you've seen them try to distance themselves, not publicly. they're not going to make a big show of it. she didn't show up for his campaign announcement when he announced he's running for a second term. she's not really been part of the business for a while. they're living a separate life in miami and i think she and her husband are trying to sort of establish their own world that's not at least dependent on his. >> so paul, as we've pointed out, she was taken out of this case, right? in spite of the fact we heard letitia james say again, going into court today, she was very involved in all of this in the family business. we saw in the paperwork that was presented today that she was involved in these deals, but are there really no legal ramifications for her even in the way trump valued his properties including her own apartment. is this really more about her personal life and the brand that is trump that has been very good to her, frankly? >> absolutely. so she's no longer a defendant in this case based on the statute of limitations. so she's not going to have any money coming out of her own checking account or savings account, but to the extent that this litigation has the potential to crush the trump organization in new york and letitia james is trying to prevent the defendants, donald trump senior and his adult sons from ever doing business in the city again, in the state again, and that clearly would have a devastating impact on ivanka's financial situation. >> peter, for the former president and his two sons, the ramifications obviously are huge. they still rely on the trump o for their livelihood and their reputation. you know, i think obviously to a lesser extent, ivanka trump, but she did not come back to new york where she held court for many years, if not decades, where she was on the cover of magazines where she went to all the big galas. what are you going to be watching for from her, i guess not just for the rest of the day today when they come back from the lunch break, but in general, moving forward, her father still has another year to go on this campaign. >> he does, and it will be interesting to see more what role, if any, she does play. she's made clear she's not going to continue to play the role she played in the white house as a senior adviser. does she show up for major events, what does she do during these criminal trials. does she sit by her father's side or show up in court from time to time? it's a very interesting and complicated dynamic. it's hard to look inside anybody's family, but this family in particular has a particular shakespearean quality to it in which we read small signs for larger meaning, and the larger meaning we've seen here from her in these last three years and i think today is a desire not to be brought back into the, you know, to the whole scene. she felt very burned, i think, by her time in the white house, and i think she, you know, was done with it and wants to move on. >> before we go, lisa and sue, if you both can weigh in quickly on what you're looking for this afternoon. i'll start with you, lisa. >> reporter: i think i'm looking for a little bit more of the same, just how much ivanka was aware of in terms of negotiating these loan documents and to what extent she really draws some distance between what she knew. she's been very careful so far to say, she no involvement with the statements of financial condition or any valuations of properties. that doesn't mean that she didn't understand in negotiating certain loans or other deals how very important trump's personal certification of his financial statements were to financial institutions. that's something donald trump insisted right left, and every other way, the other day that didn't matter to the banks at all. right? he told us that the banks didn't care. they only cared about the quality of the deal and the amount of cash in his pocket. ivanka through these documents is giving us a very different lens to understand those deals of what actually deutsche bank cared about. >> and i think the other thing, the question is, a, will she wrap up tomorrow or will that spill into tomorrow. i think this is important for people following this, this is the last witness for the prosecution, and we're likely going to see the defense case start on monday. the court's dark on friday, and that could take several weeks and run into december. >> lisa rubin, sue craig, paul butler, thanks to all of you. peter baker, it's been a bit, i should say congratulations to your college aged son who got a book deal. bravo to the baker glasser family, and michael, you're going to stick around. a key takeaway from the election results across the country, abortion rights remain a critical motivator for voters. what exactly might that mean for 2024? we're back in 60 seconds. we're back in 60 seconds democrats have a very strong set of data points that abortion rights remain a powerful motivator for voters. most importantly it's motivating voters in blue and red states. in republican ohio, it wasn't even close. voters resoundingly enshrining abortion rights into the constitution. in the purple state of virginia, a repudiation of governor glenn youngkin's push for a 15-week abortion ban. democrats control both houses of the state legislature there. one of the reason state republicans had such a bad night, the defeat of an incumbent state senator, a practicing ob/gyn who supported the governor's call for that 15-week limit. here's how the democrat who defeated her characterized the results. >> our victory and victories across the state are aa sign that folks want progress to continue. they want us to focus on things that matter. and they certainly don't want us taking away women's rights. >> priscilla thompson is on the ground in ohio, joining me here, michael steele, former rnc chairman and an msnbc political analyst. it's pretty clear, michael, that the abortion issue cuts across party lines, not just democrats, independents, moderate republicans. how did democrats capitalize on that, and what do republicans do about it? >> well, what the republicans do about it part is a lot harder than how the democrats capitalize on it because what republicans have done across the country and certainly at the state level where the original argument was let the states decide. a lot of states have decided. they've said, okay, guess what. >> be careful what you wish for. >> be careful what you wish for. >> you want to leave the state to have an abortion, can't do that. we're going to prosecute you. you have this whole narrative that they have to go back and try to unpack, which they can't. that is very hard, and when you have conservatives out there tweeting, you know, republicans have got to do something about the abortion issue, what do you want them to do? on the democratic side, the reality is that's part of your conversation. you know now that there's an issue that animates americans personally. they -- because it affects them deeply. it affects their children specifically, and that's where you find a lot of republican women, which is something the party completely discounted. having a greater say in this, in these red states, starting in kansas a year ago. now we see it play out in ohio and in kentucky where that issue now coupled with other things really -- is a really powerful formula for democrats, but their communication about that has been woeful, and so what's happened has been left to a lot of candidates on the ground, gubernatorial, senatorial, state rep candidates to make the case. they now have to nationalize that narrative for biden to let him go out there and tie the bow on it, if you will. >> do you think it potentially provides a road map for democrats beyond abortion? a lot of people who believe in abortion rights will say to you -- certainly i've had this experience out of the campaign trail -- i personally don't believe in abortion, but i don't want to tell others what to do. >> that's the irony, when you look at this idea, well, let the states decide. because at that time, over that 50-year period, the thinking behind that is the states are going to be able to manage this and do it and they're going to, you know, take into account both sides, all sides. well, that's not happening. what's happening is one side is dictating the terms. so that conversation now has become harder. so when people say, as you rightly point out, that, you know, i have my view on abortion but i don't want to see the government take away right that the constitution gives you, and then what's behind that is someday i may need to exercise that right too, maybe not me personally, but my children or my grandchildren, so there's a lot deeper thinking going on around this issue than just, oh, you know, abortion this or abortion that. it really is fundamentally about the civil liberties involved. >> so priscilla, you are in ohio, long time ago, blue state, now clearly a red state. what are you hearing on the ground? what are folks saying? what happened? >> reporter: yeah, chris, i was in that room last night that erupted in tears when this was announced, and these were folks who had spent months organizing on this issue. they were outdoor knocking all day yesterday encouraging people to vote yes to enshrine that right to an abortion in the constitution. i spoke to the director of one of those organizing groups, and i want you to hear what she had to say about it. >> how are you feeling right now? >> i'm shaking inside. we put our hearts and souls into this. we showed up for those who could not show up. we fought for those who are voiceless, who couldn't show up and do these things for our children, for our neighbor's children, for ohioans. >> and as you might imagine, those against abortion are waking up to a very different feeling today. we're hearing from them saying they are heartbroken over this decision, but also doubling down saying they fought for 50 years to overturn roe v. wade and they will continue this fight. it does not stop here, and it's important to look at this messaging because, as you all were just discussing, in 2024, there are seven states with abortion on the ballot. many of them red states, swing states, using the same language that we saw here in ohio, which is enshrining the right to an abortion in the constitution with an exception that the state can step in beyond the point of fetal viability. and so organizers here who were pro-reproductive rights with saying we're going to stand with these other states, help them organize, show them how to do it, and we're not really hearing a change from anti-abortion folks about what they may need to do differently in order to win on their side of the issue in those states. chris. >> that is the question going forward. priscilla thompson, thank you. michael you're sticking around. could the fighting in gaza soon come to a three-day halt? 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>> so chris, about 15,000 people left gaza city heading south yesterday, according to the united nations it seems to be a similar number today. the israeli military says so many people were actually leaving today that they extended the window for that so-called humanitarian corridor by an extra hour or so, but we still believe that there are hundreds of thousands of civilians inside of gaza city. it has a population of about a million in peacetime. our viewers may be wondering, why would people choose to stay inside of gaza city when the israeli military is telling them to leave, when the fighting is so intense there? one reason, chris, is what you just mentioned. they're being told to go south, but israel continues striking in the south too. been to just a number of israeli strike sites in the south. the other reason, chris, is it comes from the pages of palestinian history. most of the people in gaza are descendants of palestinian refugees, people who fled or were displaced in 1948 and then were never able to go back to their homes inside of what is modern day israel, and it is deeply rooted in the palestinian psyche that there is a danger if you leave your home, you will not be able to go back. now, the israeli military says they will let people go back to their homes in gaza city once the fighting is over. they insist their enemy is hamas, not the palestinian people. israel has gaza city at this point completely encircled, they say they are beginning to make forays into the heart of gaza city. they say their target is hamas's senior leadership, the men who ordered, who planned the massacre of october 7th that killed 1,400 israelis. they believe that hamas's senior leaders, the leader of the group in gaza, is in that network of tunnels underneath gaza city. i was actually in gaza on sunday with israeli forces who were hunting for that tunnel network. they say it is extensive. it runs underneath civilian areas, and from israel's perspective, no area of gaza can be considered clear until those tunnels have been found and until they've been destroyed. chris. >> raf sanchez, thank you for that. let's go back to this new nbc news reporting according to two foreign diplomats. the u.s., israel, and qatar are discussing a proposal to pause the fighting in gaza for as long as three days. that could allow aid in and enable the release potentially of a small group of hostages, maybe 10 to 15, which would give hamas time to gather detalgs of the -- details of the identities and locations of the hostages. i want to bring in ben roads, former deputy national security adviser and msnbc political contributor. good to see you, ben. look, the g-7 today first called for this humanitarian pause to protect civilians, to get more aid in. we now have a potential new deal in the works to do just that. is the netanyahu government relenting to international pressure? did they have a choice here? do they have a choice here? >> well, if they do accept this, that would be relenting to pressure. netanyahu says he might only allow pauses of an hour or two, which would not be sufficient for the kinds of things that the u.s. is trying to do. i think the arab countries have been pushing for pauses of more than even two or three days, but five days or seven days for several purposes. first, to try to negotiate the release of any hostages that you can peacefully and qatar would be the key conduit to hamas for that. second, to get in really substantial humanitarian assistance. if you have a pause of an hour or two, maybe you can get in 20 trucks or so, which is a fraction of what used to normally go into gaza on a daily basis. now you obviously need much more. they want more time to get more assistance in. that takes a matter of days. so i think this is the g-7 really trying to send a message to israel that there needs to be a more substantial pause in what the israeli government's been willing to accept thus far to achieve those objectives. it remains to be seen whether prime minister netanyahu will move in that direction and how far he'll move in that direction, a day, two days, three days, i'm sure that's the focus of diplomacy right now. >> it's really interesting the results of a new ap poll, americans increasingly view israel as an ally. they are really divided over whether or not israel has gone too far with this war. ap calls it a muddled picture that poses challenges for the white house. does this pose real problems for joe biden, put pressure on him? we know already that it's been costing him some support in the muslim community in michigan. >> yeah, i think it does, chris, and i think we shouldn't ignore that political reality. in a democratically elected system, leaders are going to respond to politics. the policy and politics of it for a long time, there's always been a significant generational divide in the democratic party where younger voters who perhaps have a shorter memory of israel and have only known a right wing pundits like bibi netanyahu and have seen the situation deteriorate for palestinians. those younger voters tend to be more skeptical of a blank check for israel. other communities of color in the democratic party, and i think that it's not just the numbers that reflect concern, it's the degree of passion that some of those blocks of voters hold in the democratic party. they're also people who feel very passionately about the need to support israel. joe biden is balancing those two things. what's interesting to me is those expressions of concern from parts of the democratic electorate are the same things tony blinken was probably hearing, whether it's in the arab world or europe or at a g-7 meeting. i think there's a growing course of concern about where the israeli military operation is going and the palestinian death toll in that operation, and you've seen the administration begin to respond to that more in its own messaging and actions. >> secretary blinken today gave, i think, the clearest indication yet of what the u.s. wants to see happen when this war is over. it includes saying gaza and the west bank must be unified under the palestinian authority. we've talked for a long time about the desire for there to be a two-state solution. i wonder, ben, as you look at the lay of the land now and you talk to people, is there anything to indicate that israel has a real plan beyond what we heard from netanyahu and, frankly, blinken rejected today is they're going to have a long-time security presence there? >> no, i think there's a real gap here, and you know, it's evident for people to see. netanyahu's stated policy is to essentially have de facto control of gaza for an indefinite period of time, and also, frankly, not indicating any interest in a two-state solution even in portions of the west bank. this government is very far right in israel, and even before october 7th could not bring itself to support any kind of two-state solution, and obviously their calculus may have change after october 7th. i think the administration on the other hand wants it try amidst all this bloodshed and suffering to indicate there's some political horizon of peace that people have to work towards and therefore that's going to be an area of continued negotiation currently between the u.s. and israeli government. i think part of the effort is what is that palestinian authority that might be able to govern gaza as well as the west bank? what can be done perhaps with other arab states that provide more resources to build the palestinian authority up, so it's a more representative, less corrupt, frankly leadership for the palestinian people. so there's work that would need to be done to achieve the administration's objective. there is also work that would need to be done to make israel shift in the direction of a two-state solution. >> always good to see you. thank you. inside netanyahu's inner circle, in our next hour we'll speak with an official who's advising the israeli prime minister. but first, a diversion tactic. how former president trump is hoping to take attention away from tonight's republican debate, and his civil fraud trial. that's next. fraud trial. that's next. things that go better... together. like your workplace benefits... and retirement savings. with voya, considering all your financial choices together... can help you be better prepared for unexpected events. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. my name is marie. i'm 49 years old and i'm a business owner. i own a lemonade and ice cream shop in florida, so i can feel and see that my lines have gotten deeper just from a year out in the sun. i'm still marie and i got botox® cosmetic. i did not want a dramatic change. i wanted something subtle. and i'm really, really happy with the results. it's still me, but with fewer lines. botox® cosmetic is fda approved to temporarily make frown lines, crow's feet, and forehead lines look better. the effects of botox® cosmetic may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness may be a sign of a life-threatening condition. do not receive botox® cosmetic if you have a skin infection. side effects may include allergic reactions, injection site pain, headache, eyebrow, eyelid drooping, and eyelid swelling. tell your doctor about your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, and medications, including botulinum toxins as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. see for yourself at botoxcosmetic.com. 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