decisions mute, you won't physicians, mutual. >> i'm going to sub-l in paris and this stand in this morning. nothing but love republicans rallying around. their leader has donald trump and mitch mcconnell patch things up? the supreme court, allowing the abortion pill, mifepristone to stay on the market for now downpours and flooding leading to life-threatening conditions in south florida and the reins still hasn't stopped plus donald trump calling milwaukee a horrible city as it prepares to host the republican national convention all right. >> 6:00 a.m. here in washington, live. look at capitol hills some from up here in washington, dc. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. wonderful to have you with us on this friday. we made it it is also today, donald trump's 78th birthday he's already received though the gift that he demanded, which has been complete relations from the republican party. take a look. here's the former president making his first appearance on capitol hill since january 6, surrounded by fawning republican supporters. >> there's great unity. this is an outstanding group of people. i'm with them 1,000%. there was me, 1,000%. we agreed just about on everything. and if there isn't, we work it out. and we've had i've had a really great relationship with just about everybody here. >> perhaps though over the years, not with mitch mcconnell, but look at this. the two men hadn't spoken until the capitol riot, but the senate minority leader showed up and there it is. that picture doug mills, the new york times i think we should probably clip and save this one, guys, because i think we're going gonna we're gonna come back to it probably again and again it says a lot watch this did you talk to them directly? >> yeah question carly all right. >> our panelists here former federal prosecutor elliot williams, republican strategist, sarah longwell, and former white house senior policy adviser, ashley allison welcome to all of you. >> clearly, this was designed to show that these guys are all on the same page altogether, that this is trump's republican party. >> now but sarah longwell, this was liz cheney, right? >> so liz cheney who spearheaded the january 6 committee the investigation into what happened that day, who has been a crusader in the wake of that against i'll trump getting back into the oval office, someone who found in mitch mcconnell's something of an ally during this period, they were in many ways on the same page mcconnell, of course, not as vocal but we know i reported at the time just how close mcconnell came to doing something different in the second each month trial of donald trump because of how much he cared about this. >> if you know how mcconnell's speaks about donald trump it private, you know, the level of disdain that he has for him. >> and yet, we saw we saw yesterday, this is what cheney said yesterday. mitch mcconnell knows trump provoked the violent attack on our capitol and then watched television happened flee as his mom brutally beat police officers and hunted the vice president. he knows trump refused for hours to tell his mob to leave. and even then with police officers bleeding, he kept repeating his election lies and praising the criminals. he knows trump committed a disgraceful dereliction of duty and is a danger to our republic trump and his collaborators will be defeated and history will remember the shame of people like leader mcconnell, who enabled them. when you see this image of mcconnell, its, let's keep that up there what do you see i see the ritual humiliation of republicans who said during january 6 are right? after january 6. and mitch mcconnell's case that trump was morally responsible for the events of the day he said there was no question. and what what i see two in that humiliation is a ton of regret for the decision he made not to impeach donald trump because if mitch mcconnell had made the decision right after january 6 to go ahead and rally republican senators around impeachment. they could have gotten enough to ensure that this moment didn't come to pass. mitch mcconnell is more responsible than anybody else because he was too cowardly to take on trump after january 6, despite knowing and saying clearly the trump was the person who caused the insurrection. he didn't do anything think about it. and now we find some back here having to kiss the ring. and it's like a criminal returning to the scene of a crime and being celebrated by the people. he did the crime against. and watching nancy mace. i mean, there was a montage of all of these people and what they said after january 6, they condemned trump clearly at the time and now they're, they're celebrating him and it is deeply shameful and embarrassing for them. it's fascinating watching this all play out because it makes me wonder what happens after donald trump, right? he will not, whether he's elected president or whatever else he will not have. he personally cannot have this. hold on the party forever. and will someone else anyone else? in gender that kind of like, i remember what the word you used at the beginning was, but sort of bending the knee to this individual that's often asking them to vote against their interests and take these positions on january 6 and so on and some i don't know if it's if it's him, if he taps into something or if some other standard bearer could could take over. but but it's wild for all the reasons you've laid out, sarah that people are still continuing republicans to line up behind him given all that happened on january 6. >> so let's put up on the screen another picture and this is part of why i've reacted. yeah, there you go. >> right. >> so on the left, you have doug mills, new york times photo yesterday, mitch mcconnell shaking hands with donald trump. this is the first time the two men had been in the same room, spoken since january 6 on the right, we don't have a date on that photo, but it is just weeks after january 6, kevin mccarthy goes down to mar-a-lago, meets with donald trump just again, weeks after he had gone down the down to the floor of the house of representatives and said that kept that donald trump bore responsibility for what happened on january 6. now that mccarthy photo a lot of people credit with resuscitating donald trump at the time, mccarthy kind of trying to read the room. this is something that mccarthy really does in his in the course of his political career, he tries to sense where the winds were blowing and he said, he's he decided that this is where he needed to be for his political career down there. and it made a huge difference in terms of donald trump then becoming the republican nominee of the party this time around. and then there you have mcconnell on the left. now today, as we are heading in to the november election ashley allison, what do you see here big picture and in terms of trump's electoral prospects in 2024, i mean, that was kind of the big picture point of what was what happened yesterday was to try to show republicans are united. it is definitely easier to win elections united then divide perhaps, yes, that's true. i think what's important in a reminder after yesterday's pitcher and continues to be a reminder when you think about and we'll talk, we'll probably talk later on and show some of the not great things trump said when he was in the meeting and at his press conference after about certain cities and people. >> but i want to stay epa way and just say like, i'm not going to be i know that joe biden and donald trump are running against each other. >> and when you have opponent, you often compare them. >> they're not in the same class. >> donald trump is an exception to all politicians and elliott to your question what does it mean after donald trump? it means the people in this moment gets to decide if they're going to fall in line and try and replicate. this is the moment to make a decision. and these folks are making their point it's hard to swing back the pendulum after these moments when you fall, you fallen, kiss the ring so i know people have take issue with joe biden, but i am stepping away from that picture in this moment from stopping to do this comparison of the two, i'm going to start talking about them in very distinct ways because they are not the lessor. what does not the lesser of two evils? one is someone who forces people to lose what their principles to not even have principles of their own meaning. donald trump, and then other is meaning joe biden in this instance, it's someone who has a party that even in this moment they have issues where they might not all agree with one another they allow for that to happen because that's what happens in democracy. and you can unite and bring people along with you, even in moments of disagreement. but right now you don't have this agreement in the republic party. you have just people falling in line sara, this was a congresswoman, maria salazar on capitol hill yesterday. >> i want to show this just because you can kind of see in the way she's animated, kind of what this, what this portends watch he is the leader of the party and he happens to be the guy who was chosen by the overwhelming majority of republicans to be the nominee. >> who are we to say no? just like the overwhelming majority of the dams decided for biden to be the nominee. that's the reality. >> welcome to the united states welcome to the united states well, she's not wrong about the fact that republican voters picked donald trump. i mean, it is his party. the reason that you see everybody sort of falling all over him is that this is what republican voters have chosen. i mean, i talked to republican voters all the time and the focus groups. and there was is and remains sort of a 30% group of people who really want to move on from trump. but the other 60% are either hardcore trump irs are like very fine with trump and i think that to elliott's question about the future of the party and what it means, what's interesting is that when you develop this cult of personality and everybody abdicates the things that they believe in service to one person. you don't have a political party, right? you just have a cult of personality. and that makes it very difficult when that person leaves to figure out who are we, what do we stand for? because i don't see your republican party that goes back to a place where there are really focused on limited government free markets in america good leadership in the world. it's not what the party is anymore. that's not what the voters want and so i think that republicans right now, which you were watching in this moment, is them gambling away a future of being a viable forward-looking political party and finding themselves sort of collapsed at the time of donald trump's ultimate departure, which i hope isn't november to is exactly why i asked the question are raised the point because in for however long it is whether it's j.d. vance or matt gaetz or tim scott or anybody else does not have that individual will not i think have that kind of charismatic pull on the party. >> and thank goodness like watching watching them fall pull over him is embarrassing for them and you know, i i hope that i want the republican party to be relegated to a rump party because of sustained electoral defeats. >> that is then incentivized to reform itself into something that is not this dangerous version of what we're seeing today. you know, it's interesting because a lot of times democrats, we particularly progressive democrats like myself, get accused of being derogatory, are condescending or dismissive of people in the republican party. >> now there are supporting donald trump and the thing you just said is they don't want the old form of the republican party. >> so what is it that they do want? and i think that's the important question that we have to continue to expose, is that if they don't want again, i didn't agree with the old version of the republican party either, but definitely disagreement with this version. so the question is, what is it they want? and then what's the subtext underneath the thing they want? and that is the conversation that we continue have to have as americans in order i think to move past this moment, i just want to give a short answer to that, which is that donald trump in this version of the republican party, does not like america. the old version, the republican party did like america. they thought america was great. they wanted to help other places the world become functional democracies like america was. but donald trump doesn't like america and these voters want to burn things down. and trump is their chaos agent to do it. >> yeah, i flashing back to what the better pennsylvania had to say to donald trump's say, stop talking america, right so just as we go to break here this morning, thing, let's put that doug mills picture backup as well because this is what has been driving our conversation. >> it's just a very kind of stark image here. there's this today on what de today, friday, june 14, 2024, donald trump's birthday looking at this this morning, just want to leave you with mitch mcconnell back around january and february of 2021. and what he had to say about that man, he shaken hands with the mob, was fed lodge. there were provoked by the president and other powerful people there's no question none there. president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of. the day no question about it cnn this morning. >> brought to you by first sandra for more information. visit for sen. rad.com missing out on the things you love because of asthma, get back to better breathing with for sandra, an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma that is taken once every eight weeks for sandra is not present in breathing problems our other eosinophilic conditions, allergic reactions may occur, don't stop your asthma treatments without talking with your doctor, tell your doctor if your asthma worsens, headache and sore throat may appear to tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection step back out there with his sandra. ask your doctor if it's right for you you know, what's brilliant think about it. >> boring is the unsung catalyst for bowl what straps mold to a rocket and hurdles and into space. >> or boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start off because it's smart, dependable, and steady all words you want from your bank for nearly 160 years, pnc bank has been brilliantly boring. >> so you can be happy to fill, which is pretty and boring if you think about it wow what the biggest companies the liver is an exceptional customer experience. >> what makes it possible is unmatched connectivity and biji solution from t-mobile for business, t-mobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees, powers tractor supply i stores nationwide with reliable by chief business internet, and partners with pga of america on game-changing innovation. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business can the riva support your brain health? 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>> he had previously said i won't pardon? he did not say anything about sentencing now, to be clear even if president biden did not pardon his son and commuted the sentence, he would still have the felony weight hanging over him. probably couldn't vote, couldn't hold off it or run for office, couldn't get an insurance license, whatever else. and so it's still a burden on somebody to be commuted, but not pardon. but he the president would have faced allegations that are concerns that he had given favoritism to his son and so on. so he sort of had to make that same as hard as it is on trump. >> how could anyone say anything else other than this is a tragic situation for someone in their family and i mean, donald trump has signed something. i know, but i do take your fact that he was advised and i don't know i mean, i think i think it does speak to this is this is something that's become a lot of people have this in their families. all right, coming up next year, three critical issues on the table as president biden sits down with g7 liters, those hour plus the reason for more rain and flooded out south florida will bring you that next juneteenth celebrating freedom and legacy wednesday at 100 and cnn. >> can the riva support your brain health? 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and what do we expect today yeah, casey, i think we've all been thinking about that. >> they'd puffer jacket that you just described? yeah, it's the big highlight yesterday was ukraine and the g7 liter is rallying around. president's lenski of ukraine really the big highlight today is going to be the pope and his visit with the g, seven liters. he's making history by being the first pope to attend a g7 summit. and you're right that ai is expected to be a big topic. this is something that he has spoken out about publicly, but there are also, or other really weighty issues that we expect the pope to discuss with these world leaders, including the war in ukraine. he has, of course been pushing for a peace agreement. >> the war in israel and the situation in the middle east is also expected to come up. >> he has been pushing, of course, for an immediate ceasefire but as a senior official talking to reporters here, this morning was making clear it's also the popi he is free to discuss anything he would like with these leaders and vice versa. the leaders are certainly going to have a lot of things that they are eager to discuss with the popi as well and we can report that president biden will have a separate private meeting with the popi sometime today as well. we know that that is going to be a personally really meaningful sit down for the president. the two men did meet back in 2021 at the vatican. they happen to be of course two of the most powerful and most well-known account like men in the world. and they're going to be so many issues that president biden is certainly going to be eager to discuss with the pope and just getting that time that is so rare with the pope of course, there have been a lot of questions about this week about meetings that the president is and isn't having. why isn't he sitting down? 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>> joining me now to bring us inside the room is republican congressman from florida, cory mills, who endorsed trump during the presidential primary last year. congressman, good morning. good morning. >> so this seems to feel like it was a birthday party. take us inside the room. what was it like? >> well, it was more than a birthday party. it was actually a coalescing around our republican nominee and we talked a lot about what the issues that we're facing. we've talked about economics. we talked about the 41% to head vote in the gallup poll regarding the fact that economics, inflation is what they're most concerned about. we talked about the border then key issues, but the thing that was really interesting is that he didn't talk just about his winning of the nomination or his winning of the white house. he talked about how does he help the rest of the gop to win their racism to maintain the majority. and so this was really about him. i actually offering to try and help and support and he can talk about a lot of the races in the past that he's gone out and done tele-town halls for that he's gone out and actually don't rallies four and so this wasn't just about president trump, this is about how do we actually strengthen the party and also strengthened the nation? >> did he say that the city of milwaukee where the convention is going to be held as a horrible city. >> know that is not at all what i've heard. no one else would you say that you actually know? i'm actually jake sherman's report on this. if that was said and must have been somewhere where me, brian mast, byron donalds, jason smith, like none of us heard that because we've got asked it after the meeting and i was like, i never heard this once. i'm understanding where this is even coming from. so cnn's toward horrible, it was used this but i appreciate your work. well, kind of talking about either something of the country or something that's going on because i think that we can all agree that it's pretty horrible what we're seeing on our borders, pretty horrible. we're seeing with regards to elimination of the middle-class. and so i think that it could have been erected. mother. further word, horrible. >> absolutely. >> so congress, we've been talking this morning about mitch mcconnell, who i shook hands with the president after not speaking to him since the january 6 riot at the capitol. and that that image i also recalls the one where kevin mccarthy went down and that was just a couple of weeks after the january 6 insurrection and stood next to donald trump. i just want to remind you and our viewers of what both mccarthy and mcconnell had to say at that time. let's watch i think mob was fed lodge there were provoked by the president and other powerful people. there's no question none their president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of a day oh, question about it the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. >> these facts require immediate action. but president trump except to share of responsibility quell the brewing unrest and ensure president elect biden is able to successfully begin his term congressman, how did we get from there to here? >> well, i think that people are starting to realize the facts that came out. i mean, look, first off, i know you call it an insurrection. i still haven't had proved for any the court that actually has deemed of his being such. but my whole thing is is that i'm identifying this we when they tried to disrupt the results, well, let's go to the results and the certification. >> they were chanting, hanging mike pence, but let's let's talk about the idea of disruption. >> how many people were actually also found to actually not be maga supporters were american fruits were even trump's supporters are wearing false flags that were actually in there. i mean, you had any evidence of that sir? actually, there is actually evidence multiple times. one of the biggest antagonist action was i got him, shaun packer, riley, who actually was even indicted, but he was never actually gone before court. he was the same the visual who was actually leading part of the black lives matter. and actually it was an antagonist where we're going down to a very high now i want to go my whole point in this is just to explain that i still do not see where we can talk about how peaceful protests can be deemed when we talk about minnesota, we talked about minneapolis. are we've talked about all these other areas as mostly peaceful protests. and yet people coming together without weaponry, without any type of, there was a blood smear it on the statue's and several capitol police officers die it was smeared on the counter bear spray. a cop's like, how is that? okay. >> shrink bear spray. it costs. there's no one ever violating or ever attacking law enforcement will be the first to go ahead and say, we're attacking enforcement on january, but i've also seen this in the blm rights. i've also seen this in other areas. we can't sit here and say one was better than the other. but what i say, you are i am asking you about what building in which you serve. >> now, i'm not asking you about i understand we can say here we could sit here today, we see all i'll be the first to tell you law and order. law and order. >> i don't care who you vote for, who you don't vote for. if you actually are using law enforcement, if you're actually committing an act of crime, you should be charged to the fullest extent. i'll be the first to go ahead and say it. but there was a lot of people who has been pulled into this who wasn't even actually in the capital itself. so if we're talking about the j6 argument, i can actually argue where many people who are still detained don't even have charges that are being brought and levied against them. we're seeing that pinellas counties courthouse. we're seeing that in other areas where even see where members of congress can't even go and visit to find out what's actually occurring and what's happening. so that's one thing and itself. now, as far as carthy and mcconnell's comments, i personally, i'm not a big fan of the idea that don't think that mcconnell has been a great leader, so i, rick scott is actually trying to challenge him right now. i don't think that a man who can somehow economy down in any rightfully should i mean, you're talking about a guy who is somehow he's the only member that i've ever seen both in the senate and the house, whose wife's can get appointments under both a democrat and republican presidents alike. so i'm not a big fan president. trump has made it very clear that he did not look for violence in any way. if you read it his tweets, if you read what he said, he said go home peacefully. there's not a person does inciting violence. let's talk about how you matzo or said, well, what about mess? the orders? who was like getting the face of people start again. now, our more made me equivalencies. i want to stop differently about those events and what happened and the reality on that day, exactly what i did and said nothing four hours in that time as cops with no one. where did he say we should go storm the capitol? where did he say he didn't? that's the whole point. he he urged his supporters at that speech that he gave to go to the capital and then he told the secret service insight is guard that he wanted to go to, wasn't a nancy pelosi you just admitted that her daughter was actually filming that she didn't have adequate security and that she should have done more than responsibility was on her for the protection of the capital that actually capitol police had reduced their forces that national guard was recommended. second, now, which is the capital need to be protected more because there was danger on that day? or was everything peaceful if we looked at 216, the city of dc was burning and we're worried about it then isn't that a prelude to what we've seen it coming elections aren't we seeing where this unprecedented things? >> occurring, or every president has come under impeachment everyone has to be under scrutiny of lawfare. every single transition of power has to be. so look, this is partially on the fact that there's divided government that is continuing to play partisan rhetoric. that's dangerous and it's on both sides when we're sitting here pointing fingers non-stop. what we're divided as an actual congress were also divided as a nation. and i think that, that's where what we need to be ceiling right now. it's some type of healing. so by together. what do you think that the us is still the greatest country in the world because president trump continually says that we're a nation in decline and the governor of pennsylvania came out and said, hey, stop, stop talking this country. well, look, we are a nation in decline in many ways. >> if you think about $35.6 trillion in deficit and i want to i paint a really grim picture here. this is the first time in american history that we're going to pay more interest on our national debt, then we will and servicing our actual national defense, not to mention only 28 nation and me empires in our world history has ever seen 130% of gdp. only one survived this, which is japan. so we are a nation in decline. if you look at our open borders, if you look in the increase criminal now let's look at the divisions that we just discussed. i think that it's not something that we can argue to say we're better off now than were four years ago. >> four years ago, we were on the midst of a pandemic. it's hard to it's hard to feel better anyway, congressman, i appreciate your time today. thank you and talk to you soon. all right, democracy or a republic, a lot of americans don't seem to care as long as trump's in charge we use that freedom of speech and freedom of religion we used to have that two. >> now they're picking on the first-gen, isn't the jewish people i mean, how much more can we tie? 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he said i had small hands smaller i guarantee you there's no problem. >> i guarantee remember that proud moment in american politics. >> well, the supreme court says that you can mock trump's manhood. all you want. but if you call him too small you can't trademarked. it, could justices ruling against a california man who wanted exclusive rights to the phrase trump too small to print on hats. and t-shirts isn't america amazing place that a senator can comment on the size of a president's hands in a zing on his manhood and a man can try to trade market and losing this bring court what a country, it's just sort of how do you make this up? nowhere else in the world what a country okay. >> president biden has been making the case that donald trump is a threat to democracy. but many of trump's hardcore supporters, we heard from one of them this morning disagree with that notion that democracy will actually, i should amend that. some of these people who are about to hear from different from our previous guests. i think that democracy may not exist. watch we are republican or republic are not a republican america's not a democracy as a recover, it's not a democracy. >> okay. democracy? it's actually not as good as you think it is. i don't see freedom and try to freedom in the republic, or you concerned if trump loses? yeah that there'll be another january 6 no. >> i think there will be a civil war okay. >> on that note, if it's friday, it must be smerconish. michael smerconish is here. michael wonderful to see you. >> i'm just going to you saw that what do you think i think we're more inclined to vote on the size of one's hands than we are. the relative merit of democracy. and what a sad commentary that is in this election cycle. but we know because when president biden has spoken of the events of january 6 and tried to use that as a campaign issue. it hasn't resonated. so i'm not surprised as as concerning as i find it, that people aren't troubled by the prospect of the loss of some of their, their democratic printed suppose and responsibilities and opportunities. it's not going to be a big issue in the election. >> well, michael, i mean, i have to push back a little bit on that just because i think we did see some evidence in the midterms in 2020 2022 that democracy wasn't animating issue for some voters. and we just see it in the polling. they will say they are are concerned about it and they were instances you if you look down into some of these, like secretary of state races in places like nevada and arizona and others that people did seem concerned about those who were potentially messing around with the actual at levers of democracy, the way that we count the votes that said, you know, president trump has a former president trump has tried to kind of turn this on president biden and say, well, it's actually president biden is not participating in democracy. i mean, is that what's motivating this conversation but case you were having this conversation one day after the triumphant turn, and that's really what it was among republicans by donald trump to capitol hill, which was the scene of the crime. >> i mean, there's mitch mcconnell with a handshake and a fist bump. yeah. let's put that notwithstanding notwithstanding what he said in the well of the senate after the events of january sex, you know where you thought there'd be no reproach meant ever possible? well, between the two. so that's my response. maybe it resonates on one side of the aisle, but certainly not among republicans. >> yeah, i mean, michael, what did you make of this mcconnell photo? i'm trying to put it put it up, but it's him and donald trump hand-in-hand i i think i was just a little bit that stopped me. this image stopped me well, i think it's a recognition of the strength that trump has the command that trump has over the republican electorate there, there's really no side, i guess mitt romney was on a plane, right? but there are very few exceptions to those who fell in line yesterday and and, made sure that they were there to show fealty toward the leader of their party and he he had opposition. he had a number of candidates, heat trump running against him, but he was the victor blew away everybody who was on that stage. so you have to kinda step back and take stock of the fact that in the end, the indictments, the conviction chin the events of january 6, none of it stood in his way in securing the nomination of his party. >> yeah. one of the other things they did at this event michael was give them a birthday cake because today is donald trump's 79th birthday. >> i believe. >> and i think it is worth reminding that this is a rematch that everybody tells us. americans cells and pulling they don't want at age 78, he would be the oldest ever at his swearing in. >> joe biden is at 13 years now, separate the two of them casey, i took note of the fact that there was there was not a 78 on that cake okay. there was a 45 on that cake, but nobody wanted to put 78 on that cake and look, according to cbs and yougov data that came out earlier this week, a quarter round numbers of americans don't think that either of them has the mental or cognitive health to be president, but the numbers for biden, the concerns about biden, you have to say this far exceeds he those for trump's 65%, including 29% of democrats who have doubts about biden's cognitive ability. if biden weren't the comparison, i think more voters would look at donald trump and they would say, my god, 78. i mean that dwarfs ronald reagan time that he was running for reelection. but because you've got that never ending comparison, it's a big problem for the incumbent and it's one of those problems that's not going away. it's not going to get better with time it's going to get worse. >> and depending on the outcome of the election, i mean, i think you're going to you're gonna hear a lot to see. can i say one more thing? >> the de debate, the debate because it just puts all the attention this age acuity, call it what you want. >> we're less than two weeks away, two weeks from today. i hope you and i will be having a conversation about what happened in last night's debate. and this is going to be the focus who looks like they are mentally fit and competent yeah, that's right. >> that friday, you and i it's a date. michael smerconish the day. friday after the debate and yes, we've been having that box on the screen. it's going to be right here on cnn. don't miss it. michael smerconish, always grateful to have you and also do not miss cnn smerconish, it's tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern. thank you, sir all right. let's turn now to this donald trump's comments about milwaukee being horrible. just one month before this set the city hosts the republican national convention. and sarah longwell, these were comments that were made behind closed doors. we've reported yesterday at this meeting where he said this is a horrible city here was let's, let's take a look at what the milwaukee mayor had to say back to him on local news. >> just yesterday, watch don't from was talking about things that he thinks are horrible all of us lived through his presidency. so my back at your buddy to insult the state. that's hosted finger convincing, i think is kinda kind of bizarre. actually it kind of unhinged in a way right back at you. >> well, we heard your previous guests, the congressmen say that of course, you know, this wasn't, this isn't true and we don't have it on tape, so i don't know, but it sounds like something donald trump would say. i don't know. i've heard him say a lot of these things. in fact, just going back to mitch mcconnell and the ritual humiliation he suffering donald trump calls him and old crow regularly. he's made racist smears against mitch mcconnell's wife. and so i don't know, it doesn't sound off base for donald trump to insult the city probably with some rachel undertones going into the convention yeah, that's the thing. it's like it's so interesting that cities that he often targets milwaukee, baltimore, countries that have people with higher melanin count. and there's again or cities as well that have black folks and brown folks. so i go back to the beginning of this hour when you said sarah longwell about like people don't like this country right now. and so i often say, what is the y? so let's type, say, donald trump did say that milwaukee was a horrible city. i wonder why when wonder what, what is that undertone? >> well, you left out philly in dc is two favorite ones. and again, it really doesn't like it here. it doesn't like it here. there's a consistent thread here. what's to move back here? >> i apparently i like him to not move back any two, but this whole remember this all started with i could shoot someone on fifth avenue and still get away with it. now the question is, can you insult voters in one of the most critical swing states in 2024 and still get away with it. he needs some of the people in milwaukee, even if many of them are democrats, he still needs the votes there and it's remarkable if this comment was made that could mean for this bathroom talking about the beginning, the hold this individual has on the party is really remarkable and i think it's also worth noting that they have focused a lot on black men and if there actually milwaukee is a city where they actually, that actually could make a difference if it's going to happen and just i do want to play a couple of we've got a couple of house republicans who came out after this meeting and were they were trying to explain and put context around the president's comments. but just to leave it in contrast with a previous guests who insisted that this didn't happen. that is not what these republicans who are in the meeting had to say watch it wasn't talking about the city. he was talking about specific issues in the city. what he was talking about was the elections in milwaukee. they're concerned about them. >> so what i also love about this, sarah, is that this has actually made the local news, right and the local folks are pushing back because that actually i think is if this is going to make good difference, right? that he says, that's why yeah. >> look, i mean wisconsin is a really important state. and so i the reason they're holding the convention in milwaukee, it's because they want to win that state over. and so i think going into that statement, selecting people is probably a bad call. >> all right. >> and with that, i will leave you with this a solute to the goat, the greatest of all time i am tom brady and i am a patriot not, not, not him. this guy what we are talking about, joey chestnut, the undisputed hot dog, eating champion, will latch argues in an opinion piece for the washington post, the chestnut would never have reached goats data at us if it wasn't for another man japanese eating legend, kobayashi the two used to battle it out on coney island every summer in the nathan's famous fourth of july hot dog eating contest. >> that was until kobayashi, a a6 time champ was banned after a contract dispute in 2010 and he did not take it very well. this was cnn's coverage of that incident take a look at the pictures of what happened because right after the contest ended, i spoke with a spokesperson and she said that what happened was that people were in the crowd chanting kobayashi because they recognized him and he said he got caught up in the moment he got excited he russia stage kobayashi was actually arrested after that. he never competed in the contest. again, chestnut would go on to win 16 championship belts and kobayashi is absence. but chestnut himself was just dealt a similar fate. he was booted from the contest this week after striking an endorsement deal with the plant-based impossible foods plant dogs. now the two are coming together though, for a heavyweight showdown. >> this is going to be a live netflix special titled chestnut vs >> kobayashi unfinished beef the beef is going to get served up on september 2. >> we're not joined currently by matt gorman, who is appant l

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