loose tomorrow. understand this. >> steve bannon gets his surrender date. >> there is no doubt that mr. knows far more. there is no doubt that all hell did break loose. >> tonight the implications of another maga foot soldier heading to prison. >> there is nothing that can shut me up. there is not a prison belt or a jail built that will ever shut me up. >> and big concerns over trump's order to install loyalists on a key house committee. >> representative perry contacted the white house in the weeks after january 6 to seek a presidential pardon. plus, as the alito flag scandal gets worse day >> breaking news, clarence thomas has wealthy friends who have occasionally been generous to him. >> stunning new details on the generous friends of clarence. don't look now, but did president biden break the world's largest oil cartel? when "all in" starts now. good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. steve bannon is going to prison. it has been a long time coming. today the former advisor to donald trump, who wears two button-down shirts on top of each other for no discernible reason, was ordered to report to prison for four months starting on july 1 for his conviction on federal contempt of congress charges nearly two years ago. bannon, you might remember, was subpoenaed in 2021 and like fellow trump advisor peter navarro and several members of congress including jim jordan and scott perry, he flatly refused to comply. did not invoke the fifth amendment, just said no, take a hike. navarro was also convicted of contempt and is currently in federal prison in miami after appealing his case all the way to the supreme court, which failed to bail him out. bannon played out a lengthy appeals process he ultimately lost. we should note this is hardly bannon's first brush with the law. you might remember in 2020 steve bannon was arrested on the aunt of a chinese billionaire and in fact if you were not bailed out by a last- minute pardon by donald trump on the last day of trump's presidency, bannon may have already been imprisoned following the federal indictment from trump's own department of justice. an indictment which says he grifted millions of dollars from hundreds of thousands of trump's supporters through phony claims that he would privately fund construction of a border wall. they did not really do it. two of his codefendants pleaded guilty to the charges. a third was convicted at trial. they are currently serving between three and five years in federal prison as part of the same plot that bannon was accused of being part of. bannon, however, was spared that fate by his former boss after january 6 when bannon proved himself to be a vital ally during the attempted coup, including, as the january 6 committee revealed, frequent contact with trump in the hours before the insurrection. >> while certain close associates of president trump privately expressed concerns about what would occur on january 6, other members of the inner circle spoke with great anticipation of the events to come. the committee learned from white house phone logs that the president spoke to steve bannon, his close advisor, at least twice on january 5. the first conversation they had lasted for 11 minutes. from those same phone logs we know the president and mr. bannon spoke again that evening for six minutes. >> we also know bannon was an advisor to the group of trump allies who met at their so- called command center at the willard hotel in washington, d.c. ahead of january 6 to plot ways to steal the election. according to bob word word and robert costa, bannon was at the willard when trump called him on the night of january 5 and to be clear, bannon was not trying to hide his involvement in this scheme. in the days and weeks before january 6 he dedicated hours of his daily podcast to the big lie and the stolen election, often dropping less than subtle hints that something explosive was in the works. >> people are getting fired up. people are getting matter, as they should. mike pence, his moment of destiny awaits him and it is coming on 6 january. it is the clarity that january 6 is going to be the day or one of these big days and we had to converge everything down to january 6. starting tomorrow it's going to be wild. it is incredible. you can be part of history. we want as many people to get here as possible. his first term is ending with action and his second term will start with a bang. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow, just understand this. >> now almost two years after being convicted, steve bannon is going to prison. that's not all, because bannon is also facing a state indictment in new york, once again for the same scheme to rip off diehard trump's supporters and still their money from them. just like everyone else in trump world, bannon likes to whine about vengeance coming for people who put him away. the real explanation is much simpler. donald trump is a criminal convicted on 34 felony counts who surrounds himself with other criminals like steve bannon and peter navarro and his longtime political operative roger stone who trump sprung from jail and paul manafort, former campaign manager sentenced to 7 1/2 years on prison on a fraud conviction. rick gates, the deputy campaign manager who got prison time on charges of conspiracy and lying to the fbi. and george papadopoulos who did a stint in prison for lying to investigators about his contacts with russia. he also got a pardon and of course michael cohen who got sentenced to three years in prison for the work he did for donald trump, partly for his role in the stormy daniels hush money scheme among other charges and allen weisselberg, who is currently as i speak to you in a cell at rikers island awaiting a payment from trump to keep his mouth shut. so, steve bannon joins a rogues gallery of trump associates going to prison and he can talk all he wants about revenge. his number one concern should be finding a guest host for his podcast for four months. joining me now is glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor who was inside the courtroom with steve bannon today. he has covered steve bannon extensively, even once getting kicked out of his 2020 rooftop election party, which is a great sentence letter. he also is the author of a new piece on the dangers of a second trump term. you were in the court today. i guess there was an open question about whether the judge would say times up, time to go to prison. how did it play out? >> chris, not only was it an open question, i think most of us were on the edge of our seats because you really could not read where the judge was going. the prosecutor, a former colleague of mine from the u.s. attorney's office made a very compelling argument as to why, now that the appellate court definitively shot down the one legal issue that the judge said was kind of an open question in his mind, which is what prompted him to allow steve bannon to remain on release pending appeal. he got up and made what i thought were valid points and as he was questioning the prosecutor and the defense attorney, you really could not read where judge nichols was going to land and i think it wasn't until the very end of his announced findings that it became clear that he said now that the appellate court has basically definitively resolved the one question of law that judge nichols thought might be available to win steve bannon some relief on appeal, then he kind of brought the hammer down. he said you will report to the federal bureau of prisons no later than july 1 to begin serving your sentence and then something happened that rarely happens in federal court. i saw david shown sprint up to the lectern and i can tell you from being in that courthouse for years, usually you wait for an invitation from the judge before you approach the lectern. he was loud and he was angry and the judge really had to put him in his place. i don't know if that was performance for bannon or someone above bannon, but it was clear the judge made up his mind and would not revisit this ruling. >> they all, as far as i can tell, everyone in that world likes to throw temper tantrums and further toys on the floor when they get upset that something does not go their way. there are two aspects. one is that he has this professional wrestling shtick that he does. i am steve bannon and i am so tough and scary and you should all be scared. settle down, magneto. we are going to be fine. in some ways there is a level in which the cover-up kind of worked. you know we never got the testimony from him. there was a reason he wanted to keep shut about it. now he will do four months in prison. >> steve bannon is such a weird character in my life, because i feel like many political reporters, he has been this person i've had to deal with for like a decade at this point, right? he was a subject of mine. he has been a source of mine. he ran one of the kind of most poisonous right-wing media outlets in america for a while. he helped get trump elected, he is in the white house and throughout all of this, i will say as an aside to your point, i often struggled with how to depict him, because he clearly was one of these people who enjoyed so much being depicted as like a super villain character that i sometimes wondered if i was like doing his bidding by contributing to that characterization, but what i will say is steve bannon eventually, you know, throughout all of this time, just acted with complete impunity. i remember when he was pardoned on the last day of trump's presidency, feeling like talking to other reporters about this and this guy would never be held accountable. he escaped accountability. what has been interesting in the past several years is watching all these people in trump's orbit, one by one, actually face accountability, including donald trump himself. it kind of culminated with his conviction. it is kind of a surreal moment for journalists like me and people who have been following trump and his allies for so long, seeing them finally kind of get their comeuppance. it is almost hard to fathom. >> in this case, the sentence is the duration of a semester abroad, so it is not a long sentence, but he is not out of the woods. the new york case against him, as we said before, the other folks as part of this scheme, doing 3 to 5 years. he is staring down very serious criminal liability this fall and maybe commuting to that trial from some federal penitentiary. >> and as you said in your lead- in, but for a presidential pardon previously for largely the same charges, although in federal court. he will now be charged in state court in new york. he could already be in prison. it feels like we are forever thirsting for accountability and it so rarely comes. but if we now look at the fact that navarro was serving a prison term. steve bannon has been ordered to report to prison on july 1 and donald trump will be sentenced for 34 felony convictions on july 11. dare i say accountability might be trending at this point. >> yes, justice grinding slow, but exceedingly fine at this point. the last thing is there is so much open talk now. we are going to prosecute our political enemies because they are our political enemies. they dropped any pretext. we are going to use the tools of the state to put people in prison. frankly authoritarian promises. what you make of those promises? >> i mean this is the danger. frankly even the way we have these conversations about accountability. we should make clear the reason it is good that accountability has come is because there was always a lot of evidence. >> correct. and a long process of a trial and appeals. yes, all of that. >> right. right and what donald trump has done is skipped that part when he talks about prosecuting his political enemies. he is saying and his allies are saying, and i have spoken to his allies. the whole notion of an independent justice department should be consigned to history. it is now the explicit promise that trump in a second term will use the justice system to go after political enemies, whether or not they have committed crimes and that is the important difference. i think there are a lot of people that worry about prosecuting the former president and i understand those concerns. when there is so much evidence of criminality and a jury decides he is guilty, that is the system working. when you weaponize the justice department to go after people because they oppose you politically, that is authoritarianism. i think we need to be really careful about drawing that distinction. >> both good talkers. both possible fill-in host if steve bannon is looking, just throwing it out there. thank you both. coming up, melissa murray joins me on the incomparable side hustle of the exact justice you are expecting it to be, next. the color's nice, that's a swell lid for you, baby! finding the exact date on ancestry that our family business was founded, really struck a chord with 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that big bar on the left is clarence thomas compared to all other justices who served during this time. melissa murray is a professor at the new york university school of law. cohost of the strict scrutiny podcast. she joins me now. i have to say at some level we new bits and pieces of this. there has been an amazing series of articles that won the pulitzer about all of the gifts thomas has gotten, but am i wrong to say generational scandal for the court? >> i think you are exactly right. we have seen this trickle out piecemeal, but having it in the aggregate really does make clear the expanse of the grift. i think that is the right term for it. it is a graft and if you think about thomases salary, it is roughly equal to the amount of the gifts that fix the court has identified. that is actually quite staggering. he has managed to amass day >> the cumulative gross pay over that period is about $4.6 million. total gifts over $4 million. he is serving two masters. he is working for, you know, the american people and then he's got -- >> which american people? let's talk about that. it has been said, look where your treasure is, for there your heart will be also. it is not surprising that some of the individuals linked to these gifts, like the koch brothers network which has had clarence thomas speak at donor events for example, happens to be deeply involved in a set of challenges to the regulatory state. these are cases we are still waiting for the court to decide, but we already know where the koch brothers would like justice thomas to be. now we are waiting to find out, have they made enough payments? we don't know, but that is where all of this is going. >> part of the argument people make in defense of thomases that he was always a conservative anyway and these are his friends hooking him up. >> it is not unconstitutional to have friends. i want to be clear about that. you have a right to have friends, even rich friends. i think where the optics become more problematic is that we are seeing individuals essentially donate funds to the court to keep the conservative super majority in play. there has been a lot of reporting by the new york times last year about justice thomas complaining about his small judicial salary, which is actually quite significant relevant -- relative to what other americans make. maybe he would not stay on the court and these wealthy interests wind, no, no, no, let's figure out how to keep you on the court and keep you happy and suddenly you see the money rolling in. >> this is a key point. i also want to talk about the delay on the immunity case, because it is not surprising. i think they tipped their hand. first they would not let jack smith jumped to the supreme court, even though we knew they would want to weigh in. even though they did it on covid cases and student debt. then they sat on it for a while before the announced arguments. then they announced arguments on the last day. now it has been six weeks. >> i said this a million times. by the time the supreme court weighs in on this, this court must say at some point that there is no absolute immunity for any president, but there may be details about what is public and private and on the outer perimeter. >> a holy invented doctrine, to be clear. >> whatever they decide is purely epidemic -- purely academic because they have immunized this defendant from liability from these criminal charges and that is kind of all that matters right now. >> i want to play you this clip from alito's neighbor who was in a sort of verbal altercation with him and his wife and gave an interview. she is making this point that when the flag went up, alito says it was about this verbal altercation. he went to a fox news reporter who reported exactly what he said and did not do additional reporting. here is his neighbor talking about the verbal back and forth. >> i want to emphasize that the interaction that happened on february 15 is the one they are using as an excuse for why they flew the flag and i really want to hammer home the fact that that happened on february 15 and their flag went up two or three weeks before that. >> dates are confirmed by text messages and a police call. again, this may be misremembered, but we still don't know why they were flying the flag upside down on joe biden's inauguration, right? 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the republicans kicked you off. how unusual is it for the speaker to a point and not tell the chair of that committee? >> i've never seen it happen. that is so disrespectful. you meet three floors before -- below the capital. there are no cell phones. you don't have the cameras and it is not so public and you want them to work well together. putting perry and jackson on the intel committee would be like putting bonnie and clyde in charge of bank security. it is absurd and that committee, especially during election time, you are focused on what foreign adversaries are doing to try to interfere in our election and now you have two people at the behest of donald trump who are going to gum up the works. turner i think will want to do to try to expose this and understand it. >> it seems that mike johnson, his record is interesting. at some level he managed to get these must pass bills passed. >> with leader jeffrey's help. >> yes. he recognized that the only way he could do it was with his 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think is interesting called secret congress. the idea is that if things are happening very far from the limelight, like deep in a committee working on part of the aggie bill or the highway bill i think still needs to happen this year. are there things happening in congress that you feel like productive work is getting done outside the limelight for you? >> no, absolutely not. i sit on education and workforce. my entire time in the republican party has been book bands, attacking critical race theory, dei. attacking college presidents, forcing them into resignation. going after college kids for protesting. that has been my time over the last two years. i know there are people on the other side who want to work on education. >> right, there are real things to do. >> that they have no interest in that and it is all because of donald trump's control of the party and their agenda. the project 2025 agenda with the hope that trump gets in. >> i have been taken aback, let me say. the tenor and sort of authoritarian tone of the entirety of the republican party after the trump convictions. a few people say you could say something like i don't think this case should be brought. i think he will succeed on appeal. that is what mitch mcconnell said. but, we are going to get you. has that been taken aback? >> yeah, because the core of who we are in the bill of rights is a jury system. you can attack the judge, the prosecutor, but they are going after the jurors. his neighbors who made this decision. the number i want to focus on is not 34, but 408. 12 jurors made 34 decisions and 408 straight times they said guilty. >> that's a good point. that's a good point. a lot of unanimity. >> they are shifting to vengeance over verdicts and violence over voting. that is a scary place. >> what do you think? >> about this? it is a circus. a complete circus. i just hope we vote these people out of office in november. >> i want to ask you about one very contentious issue in the democratic party. benjamin netanyahu has been invited to talk to a joint session of congress by the bipartisan leaders. i think we got the date which would be late july. are you going to be attending that? >> i probably will not be going. i don't think this is the time to bring benjamin netanyahu as he faces international charges for the potential genocide in gaza, where famine is setting in and kids are starving to death. i don't think this is the time to invite him. >> it is an individual decision. i think he has recklessly prosecuted this case, the war, and hostages are still in hamas custody. they should come home before he comes to congress, but i think it is still my job to go there and make my concerns about his prosecution of this war. >> from your lips to god's ears, that the hostages come back before july. great to have you both. still to come, how president biden did the unthinkable and beat opec at its own game, next. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it's a great product. it's going to help a lot of patients. what we're trying to save the planet with nuggets. because we need the planet. and we also need nuggets. impossible. we're solving the meat problem with more meat. six decades ago, a bunch of will producing company, banded together to form opec, and organization of petroleum exporting countries. cartels had a massive influence on american politics ever since. just look what happened after opec decided to put an embargo on the united states during the arab-israeli war in 1973. >> this winter, americans waited in line for gasoline. they considered fuel and turned off lights. the paid more for oil, fuel, food. some of them lost their jobs. >> then, 1979, prices at the pump were again, when iranian oil production dropped after the iranian revolution, and opec almost tripled oil prices. of course, the fallout knocked jimmy carter right out of the white house. american presidents have been bedeviled by opec ever since, until now. because to quote former congressional adviser, joe biden just broke opec. and he did that through a truly incredible bit of oil market trading. here is how the economist describes it. in 2022, when he released 180 million barrels of crude, he sold it at an average of $95 a barrel. in july of last year, when oil was $67 a barrel, he began to refill the reserve. he has replaced about 1/5 of what he sold, posting a profit of $582 million, has managed to time the market to perfection. and biden's streak is still going. here too! and it all is dan decker, one of the foremost experts, founder of the energy newsletter. and back in october, he really called this whole thing joe biden is the greatest oil trader ever. this has gotten very little coverage. i think it is a wild story. take us back to the origins of this. >> so two years ago, what we had was the most bullish oil market. >> bullish meeting prices are high. >> they're going to go higher because coming out of the pandemic, we got this pent up demand. people want to go traveling, they want to get back. >> they want to fly, they want to drive. >> oil prices are going to go up. oil companies got decimated by the pandemic. they can't cover the oil that is being demanded at the time. to add on top of that, you got a new war, ukraine and russians. and now what the europeans want to do, actual biden wants to do is they want to freeze russian supplies out using sanctions. they want to be sure that they can't, the russians can't use their oil machine to finance the war. >> because their oil machine is the biggest expert they have. >> all this combined makes for the most bullish pocket i ever saw. >> people were going around putting stickers on gas, gas stations, with joe biden. >> we had 5 1/2 dollar gas, seven a half, eight dollar gas in california. joe biden goes to saudi arabia, and he begs the saudi's for oil. >> after being very harsh on them, of course. after being very harsh on them, rightly, after he had ordered the execution of american newspaper columnist, goes back, does what american presidents do, -- >> mbs told him to go stuff himself. he is not a transaction kind of deal that he got. donald trump, who forgot about the show. sold him at 35, fighters, this whole transactional deal. and at this point, you're going to give me something. and biden says no, i have nothing but the united states to give you. and yes, forget it. he goes back home and he has this enormously interesting aggressive plan to use the strategic petroleum reserve, which is our national emergency reserve system to try and hedge down oil prices. >> okay, i want to be clear here, we are sitting on a bunch of barrels, that actually exist in a cave somewhere. >> they do, about five and 80 some odd million barrels of this. >> the idea is, if we are ever in an emergency where we don't have any access to oil, this is the strategic reserve. >> we used, for example, in hurricane katrina. that was a major time. but in katrina, they released maybe 25, 26 million barrels of oil. in this case, over the course of your, they released 180 billion barrels. >> no one had ever done anything like this? >> very aggressive >> as he is increasing the supply, he is saying you want to keep prices high? guess what? we're going to put a bunch of oil on the market and drive the price down. and we are going to sell it into the market. >> solids into the market, and more than that, we're going to lock all the other traders in the eye and say to them, if you want my oil, the guy standing on the other end of this trade is the u.s. treasury. the government of the united states. and that scared the bee gees is out of every trader. they were helping drive the price of oil down, the government was selling it because nobody wants, whether the u.s. government is telling all traders, we want to see prices, we are going to do what we need to do to make those rights. >> they're coming to the market and saying two things, we want this price to go down. and we were sitting on these barrels and we are going to self until it does. and watch. >> that is exactly what he did. and so the amount of money he made for the u.s. treasury, this is a fun part of it, he sold basically around $100 a barrel. and has been, that is $30 he has made on 200 million barrels. you know, somewhere between five, $6 billion at the u.s. treasury. that is why i said that joe biden is the greatest oil trader ever. >> they just showed this on april 2nd that they were about to do some purchases to replenish the reserve. he canceled it. so that is where that's where it was. this is by now, not selling. you want to sell high, buy low. for a second, we are down, went into the market may 7th, but it had dropped five dollars. >> right, and at this point he has such a, such a fear from traders of what the u.s. will do next that he really has to threaten one way or the other to make oil market move. >> this wasn't done before, this was an innovation in using the spr to basically put a guard rail on oil prices and to wildly diminish the cartels. >> by the way, i think that biden understands that, as well as being a seller of last resort, at the top of a marker, he is going to be a buyer of the last resort at the bottom of the market, and also protect those oil companies to make sure that they are profitable, as well. the point is that, you got to put guardrails on both sides of this. and by doing so, you create a laying for renewables. exactly in fact, if you look at the stock market today, you look at those green market stocks, nothing but shooting up. basically because biden has created a stable oil market for the first time in our history, that some of the most crazy moments in the oil market, when you have seen nothing like stability, we have seen nothing but stability. it is a tremendous stress. >> you know what? it is a really story, i think it does connect with the green transition. price volatility is the number one threat because as soon as things hit five dollars a gallon, everyone is like oh, i don't want this green stuff that stability is key. dan decker, thank you very much. that is all in on this thursday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now. >> i'm going to say, i think you're more animated about that possibly than the price of eggs. >> i am! this is one of my favorite stories because it is fascinating and wild and no one knows it and it has really been a seismic change in how international oil markets function. >> a huge