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[inaudible] >> [speaking foreign language] >> the warden make a declaration saying that there was somebody here, who tested positive for coronavirus, and he is here. >> i am really scared i'm going to die. >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language] >> the woman communicated with us. they sent us a note through the laundry bag. they sent a letter, saying that they are going to go on strike. >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language] >> we also get this from alpha. we started this friday by refusing dinner, and refused to work for this facility until ice free us. >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> newsom, how are you feeling about this? i mean it reach this point, but also, you don't know what they are going to do. >> i am trying to be strong, to hold on. it's really hard. there is so much going on outside. they have been forgetting about us. >> if you can call me after the break? >> can you just keep it running? >> there is nobody infected in this facility. [noise] >> okay, let me tell you something. my name is nilson. i put a lawsuit, okay? to this facility. >> okay. >> both of the wardens were in the federal court on thursday, and they declared that they have tested three people, and one game positive. >> the people responsible are nowhere to be found. they are all sitting at home somewhere, barking orders, telling people like me what to say to you. it's effect up situation. it really is. >> the facility is going to continue addressing issues as they arrive. what that entails, i have no idea, okay? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello. >> hi, it is set. what is going on with your husband at this point? >> they retaliated against all the people that are participating in the hunger strike. and so, now he is in isolation. >> [speaking foreign language] >> >> [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> a, have you heard from nilson? >> he is in delta, in the -- i'm so worried about nilson because he got a really health condition. >> and with him refusing medication, one of the ice lady said he's gonna get a permit from the judge, to force feed us. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello. >> nilson -- >> this colin view from irwin county detention center. >> hi, nilson. how are you? >> i am okay. i mean, you know. i haven't eaten for five days, today. nothing. we haven't drink any water also, taken any of my medications. when i get up, you know, i get dizzy. honestly, i am feeling weak. this is a very on humanitarian. and, i mean, we haven't committed no crime. we are not hurting anybody. we didn't behave aggressively in any way whatsoever. so, it's really hard to understand why they are treating us this way. >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] ♪ ♪ ♪ when you have technology that's easier to control... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. 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>> we're asking for these 11 petitioners to be released. >> i've already ruled on that. i haven't heard anything terribly persuasive. to change my mind on that. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> a whistleblower, a nurse, working in a georgia immigration and customs enforcement ice facility. leveling, honestly ghastly allegations. the complaint alleges that the facility like protection against coronavirus for detained immigrants. >> we didn't have anything to sanitize with, we didn't have the proper ppe. the first case of covid in the facility, it was covid is not here in this facility. >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language] >> women in that facility, migrant women say that the doctor was performing procedures for which no medical indication existed. >> they say you're going to do surgery and gynecology. i said nobody informing me and i'm going to do surgery. all of a sudden i get up, that's when i know they went through my belly button. i got three big holes. he never explained anything to me and i never agreed. matt >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language] >> it's outside erwin? 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(chuckle) and i found it in five minutes. travel back in time in no time with the 1950 census on ancestry. >> seth, it was interesting, your film is also, how you got your access. and in many ways, you made it clear during the film that you had to pay for the video access at times, to make sure we saw that. but explain how you met nilson? how you met andrea? how you got that access? >> sir. at the beginning of the pandemic, you, know my plans for reporting, we're sort of upended right? i had plans to go reports toys for the magazines i write for. and i was trying to figure out how i was gonna continue, as a print reporter, as this pandemic was a spreading to develop new stories, to cover the pandemic on the beats that i already work on. so, i began making a series of calls through a video app, that is installed inside a set of i.c.e. detention centers, that allow people on the outside to call into people on the inside to have short conversations 15 minutes at a time, using these paper minute video apps. they are really made for family members, people on the outside, to call relatives on the inside, so they can maintain contact. they are pretty expensive, but as a reporter, i decided it was worth it to pay per minute, to get this access, to try and figure out what was happening inside of i.c.e. detention centers, as the pandemic was really turning the world upside down. >> and the facility, they tried to fight you, when they realized what you are doing? when did they know that basically, some, you know, somebody was doing -- some detainees were participating in a journalistic exercise. >> so, lots of journalists were using these vigil at storyboard on what was happening in the i.c.e. detention centers. in fact, it allowed us, as reporters, to gain a level of access that is very, very difficult, without that kind of video access. in fact, you know, in a way the pandemic, and the sort of this move by all of us to start using video communication tools, it made it possible for me to get inside an ice facility, but i probably never would have been able to get into otherwise. the detention center at one point, and i wrote about this in the new york times magazine story that i published last year, did sever my access to the video app. and some of the people inside lost access to the tablets that they've used, to have these conversations. i was able to sign back up, and sign back in, and continue to have these conversations, and collecting footage that ultimately resulted in the documentary at the facility. >> but it allowed you, in some ways, to least briefly take us into the facility, which i think made you stand out. let us take nilson. he didn't know why he was held for as long as he was held, and he is not quite sure how he is released, at least as far as the film is concerned. can you fill in some of the planks? >> you know, ice detention, immigration detention, just to fill in some background here. it's civil detention. it's not prison. it's not meant as punishment, at least as a legal matter. it's a thing that exists to hold most dozens who are facing the threat of deportation, ostensibly so that they don't have scones, showing up in court. it's at the discretion of the federal government and ice. so, nearly everybody who was detained in i.c.e. detention could actually be released at any point at the discretion of immigration and customs enforcement. and policy shifts dramatically from administration to administration, about who is detained, who's prioritized, who's held in detention, who was released and lead to stay at home with families. nilson and andrea, the people in my film, really had no idea when they would be released. they were detained pursuant to policy at the time under the trump administration, that nearly anybody who could be detained would be detained. so, nilson had been pulled over for driving violation, and was locked up in i.c.e. detention after an arrest following the driving isolation violation. and we had come to los angeles from columbia by a tourist visa, intended to come into the country. but when officials at the airport asked if she feared returning to our country, she was detained and treated as an arriving, as an arriving asylum seeker. you know, the trump administration, arriving asylum seekers were summarily detained. she was held for nearly two years, without any idea when she would be released. >> but set, both are still here, right? both are still in america. they won't set away out of country. >> that's right. >> they were held for months. and then, allowed to stay, period. >> that is right. i mean, andrea is in court, proceeding for asylum case. nilson is waiting for a green card. he is married to a u.s. citizen. he has very clear claims as to be able to stay here. he probably was never going to be deported, actually. he was probably gonna win his case. but because i had the discretion to hold him at the time, they had a sort of a policy, as a policy matter, we are holding anybody they could. so, he stayed in detention for close to a year, actually, while he was fighting this case. and through this film, the facility, i really tried to bring people inside, because for most of the pandemic, from the beginning of the pandemic, the early months of the pandemic, i sort of attached myself to this computer screen, in order to have these conversations with people. and to observe what life was like inside of an ice facility, that is really built with the intention to separate people from the outside world. >> right, and it is certainly not intended for months, maybe a day, or to. these are topics that the public tries to look away from sometimes. and shouldn't look away. this is all part of our system, all part of our system whether we don't like it, we should do something about it, and sometimes, you kind of see something that's a bit uncomfortable, in order to make change. seth, congratulations. appreciate you participating in our from festival. >> thanks. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome to allstate, where you can bundle and save. isn't that right phil? 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>> i would never said five or ten years ago that i thought this was the most racist thing in the world. standing here i feel these peoples hearts. >> we will little judge decide that. >> fine. >> are you still going to try to take it down? >> absolutely. it will be no stopping me at this point. we came down here because of the fishing and nice people we've meant. then my wife debbie and i got bored, this little restaurant looked like a good opportunity. it belonged to maurice's bbq shop and was need of repair. i had never deemed it as racist. it was history to me. it was cool, because it was like a rebel flag. that meant that you were against the grain. you were at that house. when i lived in maryland, i was a race car driver. out we had a rebel flag, not on the car, but we had a flagpole by the race car. especially when we'd go up north, because we were guys from down south. we were the guys to beat. i was cleaning up my closet. founded in the closet. i would wear this in public anywhere i wind without a problem. when it became what it is today, my wife had said that there was no place for that on a race team. i'm not a racist by any means, or a hater. -- was the best place for it. >> my name is buzz braxton, and i'm a lieutenant commander at camp 842. this is general robert e. lee. probably the greatest man that ever walked the face of the earth. a lot of people don't understand the sons of confederate veterans. the confederate battle flag is the soldiers like. that's why we are so proud of it. do you, it sounds -- the sons of confederate veterans, it is your duty to see that the true history of the south is presented to future generations. that's what we try to do. it's a tough job. there is a picture of maurice bessinger, we had the federal flag. >> i'm maurice bessinger, chairman of the -- enterprise incorporated. the south shall rise again. >> mr. maurice bessinger was a member of this camp. he owned and operated my barbecue restaurant -- >> after almost four decades and a bitter debate, south carolina removed the confederate flag from the south carolina state. >> after 38 years, the flag began its descent down the flagpole. >> july the 1st 2000, the flag was taken off the dome. . >> -- to protest, to take it down of the heritage flak. >> mr. maurice called me one day and asked me if we would like to have a little piece of property where the flag lives. that was one of the best thing he needed to worry about. the last thing he needed to worry about. after the incident in charleston, the whole emphasis came to the flat. i said of the flag is going to be under attack, the bigger the better. igger th better flowers are fighters. that's why the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's is full of them. because flowers find a way to break through. just like we will. join the fight at alz.org/walk there's a different way to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by a healthcare provider every other month. it's one less thing to think about while traveling. hiv pills aren't on my mind. a quick change in my plans is no big deal. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions, post-injection reactions, liver problems, and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver problems or mental health concerns, and if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. some of the most common side effects include injection-site reactions, fever, and tiredness. if you switch to cabenuva, attend all treatment appointments. every other month and i'm good to go. ask your doctor about every-other-month cabenuva. 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[noise] i've had conversations with people, they see the fight that we're in with the veterans in the zone. and they literally are like, wait, isn't orange bird like 16 to 70% black? why is bringing down that flag even a discussion. it should've been down. and you just have to let them know that white supremacy has its roots everywhere. orangeburg, there's no difference. >>, you know orangeburg it's home to one of the biggest massacre in terms of civil rights in south carolina. students were protesting for the integration of the local bowling alley, fearing violence, the governor said in the howard patrol. one night, the patrol broke out in gunfire, killing three students and injuring 28 others. it was 50 years ago. but that's not something that people in town had forgotten. it's kind of like the shadows of a dark era are constantly on you. and, i think some people just don't want to think about the confederacy or think about what it means or what it meant. you would have this expectation that when you do have black leaders in a city that, on issues like this, they will be very bold, they'll be very outspoken. and a lot of times, they aren't. not everybody in government or in politics is comfortable with what comes with booking a system that's been in place for 400 years. as long as there are confederate monuments everywhere, white supremacy will always be here. i just don't know what to do. the community, the city council, the city administrator, none of them are helping to get this thing going. i think they've got somebody coming in to make sure they don't commit. but, then i almost thought, we'll never get to the bottom of that. it's sucks! >> the controversy over a confederate flag continues tonight. >> justin and i have tried to exhaust all reasonable evidence, and it's just not walking. >> tommy darius is not threatening to remove the flag and confederate marker himself. he -- just so he could shove that flag up the s of everybody in orangeburg fraternity. >> they stun the sons of the confederate telling them if they want their flag in marker, you need to come and get. it >> would if i don't need this whole like to the confederacy and they put flags and swat stickers and what the hell ever. is the city going to be okay with that? no! so they better get their ass is on board. >> if you go right around the monument -- i'm just getting ready for pick of. the science a confederate, i don't need it to them. >> more days go by without something happening. . okay, since we were here last, you can see where he's been thinking around the monument. he's been trying to cause so less chaos that somebody's trying not to overreact. i just understand, i just don't understand. i want people to know that our ancestors are good people, most of them didn't have slaves. i've talked people all along, that was the best thing that ever happened to folks that came over. they would not be driving bmw's to date. and their ancestors remained in africa because they would've been eaten by other tribes or eaten by lions and tigers. i know that isn't politically correct to say. but it's true. my father had across eastern washington d.c., in 1968, i was about 12. my father was working the story. and they were expecting a -- about 1:00 that, night we had a phone call. the store burned to ground, i'll never forget this. my father stood in front of the storm cried. my father was a huge man. and in the meantime i saw black people lining up over here and it was like you know, that these guys, all these people are lining up. and i thought it would be bad. so the first person walked up to my dad said i owe you money. and i'd like to pay. my father said, man, i have no idea how much do on me. they all blend in the store. and she said, i think it's 12 hours in some sense. she paid, within minutes a linebacker and the people paid my dad money. and, we left. my father never had a racist bone in this body. i wanted people to know i'm not know racist bastard standing home holding up that flag. can never have too many pillows. sometimes i'm all business. wooo! i'm a momma 24/7. seriously with the marker? i'm a bit of a foodie. perfect. but not much of a chef. yes! ♪ wayfair you've got just what i need. ♪ (brad) over the years, we've helped millions of renters find their perfect place. like andrea, whose new apartment finally has a dishwasher. 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[applause] >> when a liberal as them has lived hard and comes down the road and pence down to see a battle flag, that we want. because they don't have anything to do -- they could have their history, we want to keep ours. >> do you worry that there will be a day when the confederate flag is not flying in orangeburg? >> yes. how can you help not to worry about it? i don't dwell on it, but there are times when i can foresee and i worry about that there may not be a confederate flag flying in the city of orangeburg or the majority of the united states. >> [noise] george floyd! >> huge number of people coming up in every single state in the country. standing together to say, this is not acceptable anymore, black lives matter. >> black lives matter! black lives matter! >> african american, ahmaud arbery's seen running [noise] >> no justice, no peace. >> george floyd repeatedly cried, my neck hurts, i can't breathe. >> i can't breathe! i can't breathe! >> breonna taylor shot eight times and killed by police. >> hands up, don't you! >> here in south carolina, all across the nation, community members have been challenging their local and state government to take down confederate statues. >> why do we want? justice! >> when do we want? it >> now! >> today, they will vote on a resolution to remove a confederate statue. >> a protests outside of city hall, members want the 20 -- confederate statue removed. >> when people say it's not my head -- it's our heritage, it's not our heritage. i think of confederate, i am unfair. it's been one of those things where you can talk about, it and you don't say anything about. it but, we are now in the time where we have the voice. >> we are here today because of course the mere city council are meeting on the resolution in regards to the statue. >> we just hope that the city will remove the statue from downtown square and rename it. >> -- >> where do you live? >> i live in north carolina. >> are simple as part of the symbol of oppression. >> our first goal is to remove the racist statue and racist street names in orangeburg. and of course, the confederate flag at the creamery. we called the mayor's office, we called the city council members. >> i am excited to see what's going on in orangeburg. we are seeing people who want change. and they're not asking for change in how they're demanding. >> as we continue, we've got to do a much better job collectively of being willing to fight the fight when it's not the popular thing to do. , and if we can keep doing that, keep pushing for change than we can keep standing up to people who stand behind institutions a bigotry and hate and slavery under the guides of heritage. we'll get there. >> and i look forward to the day where i jump in my car in orangeburg, and that confederate flag is no longer flying there. who (dad) we have to tell everyone that we just switched to verizon's new welcome unlimited plan, for just $30. 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>> unfortunately, no. the flag is still there, the monument in town is still there. and, no one has purchased the property. so tommy is still looking for a buyer. >> so, tell me how you decided to do this. you are from the area. and, i think that probably give you a little bit more credibility to get people to. talk how important was that? >> i think it made all the difference. being from orangeburg, i just knew the landscape of the town. , and there was just so much credibility that i had, reaching out to everyone involved they were much more willing to speak with me. and, you know, i also really care about the issue because this is my hometown. and i really cared about how the town and the people in it were portrayed. >> i loved how much you didn't feel the need to include a narrator in fact, correct me if i'm wrong. i think we only hear your voice once in the entire documentary towards the end there, correct? >> that's right. yeah! i feel like the power of documentaries is you can take people into different communities and just introduce them to people where they are at. and, so i just didn't feel like there was a need to editorialize. because i think the audience can draw their own conclusions from seeing things as they are. >> how did you get the trust of the sense of the confederacy? because they are not, you know, look at it, i think that it helped that you are from there but not every journalist could've got in that sit down. not every journalist could have handed them the original, the original's accession papers and got them to read it. >> right, yeah. i was very nervous when we found that, to be honest. and, ultimately, i have no idea if you know buzz and the sons of the confederate veterans are going to want to participate. but, i just felt like when i was starting the project, i had to reach out and find out. and so, you know, i sent off some facebook messages. i really had no idea fight here back. and, a couple of days later, i got a phone call. and, buzz was, you know, very cautious. and, i was very cautious. and, but, over the course of filming it was a three-year process. and i was really upfront about what i was trying to do. up front that i was filming with tommy in the ice cream shop. and, i think bus just felt like he wanted -- he knew i was going to make the film. and he'd rather be able to present himself, himself. then help me draw my own conclusions. >> has a senior finished product? has everybody senior finished project? >> yes, everybody has seen it. >> can i confess to having a few ideas that i am curious as to why the shop owners didn't try this? so, i did number one is, did they think about putting up six surrounding flagpoles, giant american flags to basically make it impossible for you to see the confederate flag? >> yeah, tommy actually really wanted to do that. and that was part of why he was starting to pick up the monument. because he wanted to build something around it. but, he doesn't own the land. it's not his land. so, there was very quickly a stop order from the -- and i think he just ultimately felt like he was going at it in every issue. and he just wasn't succeeding. and, eventually decided, i don't want to be here anymore. and, you know closed the ice cream shop and love town. >> did he think about filing a civil lawsuit against the suns of confederacy? and, essentially because he could make a claim that their mere presence, the flags presents hurt his business. and therefore, they were actively hurting his business. and they should be financially liable. has he thought about pursuing that? 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>> well, i'm actually looking -- working on another south carolina film. i'm filming with -- for the senate campaign. so i'm working on making that into a documentary film. >> well, that will be very interesting, emily harrell, the film again, meltdown in dixie. just a wonderful portrayal i think of the debate on a local level. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> all right folks, up next is golden age cry. you are watching the meet the press film festival on msnbc. when i'm in a, match time slows down. imagine five ton loses, ahead how slanted's shoulders, are huawei is his elbow facing right now and i just put all of those together and then just time it perfectly. >> when i first started martial arts, i was six years old. the first time i went into the dodgers, i did like a straight-up high kick, and then the instructor was like, yes, this is definitely for you. >> he was already jumping off of everything that he could jump off of. so, it was not really that big of a surprise that he fell into martial arts. >> from six to about nine years old, i went to a lot of tournaments. and i won all of them. >> we had to sit down with them and tell him, you know jeffrey you are not that man. when people are being pushed around in school, because we'll lose our home if you break somebody snows, okay? 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and she was like, oh, i'm 95 years old, sweetie. i was like? >> we're doing stretching exercises. we get their arms working. we get their stomach working. when we do this and upsets giving them the physical strength that they need. also, it gives my students the confidence to step up the house. >> one of a student says, i have dementia. but i write my karate class on the door. and i think that is such a big deal to not only keep their body active but their minds active. >> one of my students, she had diabetes, and she was taking medication for time today. that was before she started. and then after she said, to keep doing this karate class seven miles a day. she said it's motivated her >> in the favorite part of class, typically, it's at the end of class. he lets them beat him up. and some of them that are really vocal and excited are like, it's my turn. can i kick? and i'm, like sure. >> you'll hurt him. >> my -- came down into karate classes. he's amazing as a student. his smile is huge. when he's doing. it i've never seen him smile so much and we posted pictures of him too and he said i look like a big tank and he said yes i do, yes you do. and my cardita the most important value is to respect your elders and i think that is a great thing because you never too old. -- we need more kind humans and that lets you know that you did something right. >> my favorite thing about teaching the senior system excitement that they give when they start classes. there, zakaria, party up, i'm ready, i'm ready! they're just so hyped and it's just amazing to know that infecting their lives like that. the transformation is just like, it's, like you just see them grows in ways that you wouldn't expect. it just makes me feel good. just making other people feel better makes me feel like 30 times better. s better that's it for this year's special presentation of the meet the film festival. we'll be back next year with more of the best in class documentary shorts. thanks for watching. atching. together has been awesome. no regrets. for you and emily. these are... amazing. thank you wayfair. how's the puppy? 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