secretary john bryson is in the hospital after being cited for a felony hit-and-run. he crashed into a stopped car over the weekend twice and left the scene and hit a second car. they found him unconscious behind his wheel. brianna keeler is live at the white house this morning. what exactly happened? >> reporter: well, this happened in the los angeles area in about the 5:00 local hour on saturday. according to the l.a. sheriff's department, secretary bryson, behind the wheel of a lexus, allegedly hit a car, a buick that was stopped at a railroad crossing. there were three guys in the car. according to this press release, he got out and talked to them and then went on his way. as he did so, hit the buick yet again. at that point the buick tailed him and called 911 and the next time -- when police did find bryson, he was in his car, this pregs release alleged and unconscious and apparently hit another car, a honda accord. the first accident happening in san gabriel and second in rosemead. according to a spokesperson, a preliminary alcohol screening of bryson was negative and the result of the blood test tests are pending. we're just now getting a statement from the commerce department. it doesn't say anything new but it is the first official reaction from the administration saying that the secretary was involved in a traffic accident over the weekend in los angeles and taken to the hospital for examination and according to this he has been released. we understand now that he's been released from the hospital. >> wow, that's so odd. is there any expectation at this point? did he have a stroke? are they still going to see if they can figure out if it's drugs or alcohol in his system? >> reporter: sure, obviously there's more to be done. it sounds like there's initial testing to be done or at least processed when it comes to blood alcohol but at this point we're not hearing anything from the administration or from local authorities about what the cause may be if it could be a medical cause or if maybe it is related ultimately to alcohol or drugs. we don't know. >> that's just weird. brianna keilar, thanks for the update. christine romans has a look at the headlines. >> the manhunt is on for a killer this morning, 22-year-old desmonte leonard, wanted in alabama for allegedly killing three people and wounding three others in a shooting in an off campus party near auburn university. two of those killed were former auburn football players, one of the wounded is a current player. police say they are looking for two people, two persons of interest in that case. no hope of containment, that's the assessment from a colorado fire chief about the high park fire burning near fort collins, it's already forced hundreds of families from their homes. it has grown from 2,000 acres to 20,000 acres since saturday. the rain colorado could use is poundsing parts of florida panhandle and coastal alabama. they are under a flood watch after more than 20 inches of rain fell in a 24-hour period over the weekend. >> opening statements begin in over an hour in the child sex abuse trial of former penn state defensive coach jerry sandusky. he could be confronted by the alleged victims today. he's charged with sexually abusing ten boys over a 15-year period, up to eight of his alleged victims could testify during a trial. it's expected to last three weeks. megachurch pastor creflo dollar arrested for battery and child cruelty after deputies say he attacked his 15-year-old daughter. she told deputies dollar slammed her to the ground and choked her and punched her in the face and hit her with a shoe. deputies photographed a scratch on the girl's neck. >> i should have never been arrested. the truth is she was not choked. she was not punched. there were not any scratches on her neck but the only thing on her neck was a prior skin abrasion from eczema. >> dollar claims the incident escalated from an argument but never intended to hurt anyone. the musical "once", was the big winner at the 66th annual tony awards, took home eight tonys, clybourne park won for best play and nichols won for directing "death of a salesman". >> the battle over who is more in touch with the people and economy takes a new turn. president obama made upbeat remarks about the economy. listen. >> the private sector is doing fine. where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government. >> lots of people disagreed with that when the gop piled on, the president backed away from those comments, we'll play them in a moment. we want to introduce you to lee owe gir ard, president of the steel workers union. >> good to be with you. >> i appreciate that. then the president's reversal was almost reversed by david axelrod. i want to play everybody those chunks as well, listen. >> the economy is not doing fine. there are too many people out of work, the housing market is still weak and too many homes under water. >> 4.3 million jobs created in the last 27 months. we need to accelerate that, candy and we agree on that. the question is how we do it. >> do you think the economy is doing fine or not doing fine? >> well, let me say i think the president is doing fine. we've had 27 months of continuous private sector job growth. we've had more jobs created by this president by his policies than we did in the full eight years of president george bush. the economy could be a lot better. it would be a lot better if the republicans were to pull their weight. mitch mcconnell said as soon as the president got elected that mitch mcconnell's biggest job was to make sure this president had one term. i think that the private sector is moving in the right direction with 27 continuous months of job growth. a large measure of that to be honest is because of the economic renewal plan he brought in early on and rebirth of the auto industry that if we had listened to mitt romney, he said let it die. if we would save the auto industry, we would be sorry, i think he was more emphatic. i think the economy and the private sector is moving the right way. and soledad, the state and level of government has had more job destruction, they've destroyed the jobs of teachers, firemen and policeman and snow plow operators. >> mitt romney weighed in trying to get leverage off of what the president had said the first go around and here's what mitt romney said. listen. >> he says we need more firemen and policemen and teachers. did he not get the message of wisconsin? the american people did. it's time to cut back on government and help the american people. >> what was your reaction to those comments? >> i was offended to be honest by those comments when we're talking about cutting back on teachers, we're talking about larger class sizes for a society that needs to make sure their education system responds to the needs of the citizens, that's the wrong way to go. wisconsin wasn't about that. wisconsin was really the hijacking of the system by unbelievable amounts of private money that came in and tried to buy that election. and can you imagine a governor spending almost $40 million in an election? the people of wisconsin maybe made the statement that we shouldn't recall for policy reasons, we should recall for maybe legal reasons and this governor in wisconsin has got everybody around him getting criminally indicted. i'm not sure what's going to happen to him in the next couple of months. >> when you look at the statistics out of that polling in wisconsin, 38% of people who said they were from union families supported governor walker in the recall. how do you explain that? >> i think one of the issues soledad, and we maybe could have thought about it take little bit more, there's only been three recalls of governors in the history and the reality i think what citizens are saying, they don't want to have recalls over policy debates. they are willing to have recalls over legal matters as we have seen in the past but they weren't interested in a recall over policy issues. i think one of the things we have to worry about in this country is the unbelievable amounts of private money and secret money and billionaire money flowing into the electoral system. we can't put this democracy up for sale. when i hear billionaires talking about getting together and raising a billion dollars to campaign against this president, that just puts our democracy in a very, very tenuous position. i think it's wrong. >> do you get a sense in this day and age people are angry and maybe even hate is a strong word but maybe use that, people hate unions are angry at unions? >> no, i get -- none of that feeling at all. i can tell you that as i travel the country, i've had workers from nonunion shops say they wish they could join the union. one of the problems is the law, people may not understand if they are not involved in the labor movement or private sector work or organization, we have the worst labor law in the major advanced democracies on the planet. this is the only place where workers don't have the right to join the union without the boss injecting themselves into the procession. if you think of the billionaires injecting themselves into our electoral process and trying to buy politicians, the same thing goes on in the workplace, where employers are allowed to bring workers in one by one, if you join the union, i'll close the plant. that's a scary proposition. every time you -- 60% say they would join if they could. let me make one -- >> we're running out of time. >> let me one last point about the economy. the private sector economy has been creating jobs for 27 straight months, all of that as a result of this president's position on the auto industry and economic renewal, wanting to rebuild infrastructure and put people back to work. one of the difficulties is people like mitt romney who have destroyed jobs, he closed a number of plants where our workers were there and walked away with hundreds and millions of dollars and members got 2/10 of 1 cent on pension plans, he's not in a position to talk about job creation. he can talk about wealth creation. >> leo gerard, thanks for joining us, we appreciate it. >> thank you very much, enjoy your show. still ahead, big news expected from apple could mean new mac books and hd apple tv and much more. we'll take an inside look at the unveiling live from san francisco coming up next. a popular children's past time has been deemed too offensive for a neighborhood in denver. yes, that's it right there drawing with chalk on the sidewalk. we start with a play list by luther vandross, stop to love. 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[ male announcer ] new bengay zero degrees. freeze and move on. apple's new ceo tim cook is going to try to shoes of the late steve jobs, apple's annual developers conference. dan simon, how is it looking so far? >> reporter: well, the lines are pretty intense, kind of looks like a scene outside of an apple store for an iphone sold. this is the annual worldwide developers conference and brings in 5,000 people from all over the world. people who design apps for both the mac and for iphones and ipads. let me tell you a little bit about what we're expecting today. we're expecting that apple will preview the newest operating system that powers the iphone and ipad and release a bunch of new products, mainly new computers and whole new slate of mcintosh computers. the question is could there be something else? there's been a lot of buzz about that. we're not expecting to see it but this is a economy that is of course very secretive, you never know. there will be a lot of eyeballs on tim cook, the first time he delivers the key note address at the worldwide developer conference and this was the last time we saw steve jobs in public at this time last year. of course, a lot of attention on tim cook today. >> i have to imagine it would be a tremendous amount of pressure, as much as he has been meeting the company, the walking around the stage that people associate the most with steve jobs. >> reporter: no question about it. and we expect him to really talk about the company and its financial health then he'll start of pass the batonto the other apple employees to deliver the product announcements, that's what he's done in the past and we expect to see that again today. also, it's pretty interesting, 5,000 people are here and it paid $1600 a pop to get in. it will be pretty intense week. there will be a lot of different sessions to learn more about the apple products. and we'll have more coming up as the hours progress. back to you. >> thanks, dan, appreciate it. there is a new twist to tell you about in florida's plan to purge the voter rolls. will they be blocked for good? the man who have been investigating voter purges for a decade will join us. a showdown, believe it or not, over sidewalk chalk. we'll tell you why one neighborhood wants to ban children from drawing on the sidewalks. our starting point team heading on. >> you like boxing. >> he'll be here. >> welcome, everybody, have a nice weekend? tap... pinch... and zoom... in your car. introducing the all-new cadillac xts with cue. ♪ don't worry. we haven't forgotten. you still like things to push. [ engine revs ] the all-new cadillac xts has arrived, and it's bringing the future forward. ♪ >> chaka khan, love what you do and feel. i shaw chaka khan this weekend at this sort of event -- >> you went to dallas? >> i did. >> everything good back home. >> beautiful, beautiful weather and people. >> chaka khan, what a rock star, she looks amazing. i just love her. i like following her around. >> that makes two celebrity stalkers for you. >> guilty as charged. we'll introduce -- i always call your panel but our team. margaret hoover is with us and will kain. i'll start with you in the get real. from hop scotch to four square, sidewalk chalk, everybody loves that. what's not to love about sidewalk chalk? could you pick a more inknock uous things it washes off anyway, right? a woman moved into her neighborhood in stapleton colorado and has a 3-year-old and it seemed like a nice place, like her daughter could color on the sidewalks for fun, wouldn't be watching video games all of the time or videos. the homeowners association in stapleton says chalk art is offensive and distracting. >> fascists. >> they claim since the sidewalks are a shared space, anything that offends or interferes with peaceful enjoy. is not allowed. homeowners association say they've gotten complaints about the chalk and they let it go to a vote and let the neighbors decide. >> i'm from denver -- >> this is her neighborhood. >> i know this neighborhood because -- >> is chalk art a problem? >> we didn't get enough of it. this used to be an airport and it was redeveloped into a family community and turns out my daughter is looking at buying there because he has small young children, and now you clearly have bureaucratic busy bodies on a power trip. if they don't want children drawing -- it's nuts. >> you start with children's nuts -- . >> it's a little crazy. i'll have my brother look into it before he buys there. >> you do that. >> i'm glad you brought like to that. >> it sounds crazy. first the 16-ounce sodas now sidewalk chalk. still ahead this morning on "starting point", we'll go back to talking about purging of voters because we kind of got into it. the florida's governor wants voters in the state checked out before they go to the polls in november. is it legal and what are the obstacles to that? also, government official caught on camera whipping his stepson. did you see this? it is so hard to watch. literally whipping the kid over a baseball game. you're watching "starting point." kage... oahhh! 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>> don't beat the [ bleep ] unite of him because he won't catch the ball. i'm a father too. >> he has been arrested on suspicion of felony child abuse. let's look at the travel forecast. >> good morning, if you're watching us and packing the bag, it will be a slow day. in atlanta, all the way from atlanta to charlotte even towards chicago and kansas city, rain and thunderstorms throughout the day today. of course in the southeast we've seen 10 to 20 inches of rain there. the big picture of course from colorado to new mexico, the dry winds and heat and of course the prevalent wildfires there. it will be heavy rain in the southeast all the way up through the mid-atlantic and a few storms could be severe in nature, predominantly strong winds and potentially from hail from arkansas through missouri today. big picture, bank on a slow day, in question about it. have a great one. see you in a bit. >> all right, thank you. e.t. phoned home 30 years ago, fans of the steven spielberg classic will be happy to hear several scenes which were altered for the 2002 version are being restored to the original images, a newly remastered version will be out on blu-ray in november. vice president joe biden's annual media picnics turned into an all out war. water guns were given to the children and biden got drenched but he wasn't the only one. he tweeted a photo of president obama running around a pool with his water gun. there you go. just another early summer weekend. >> just another summer day. >> there's joe. >> a florida's controversial plan to purge the voters list grows more deadvicive, they have puched the attempt on hold, don't trust the accuracy of a list of 2700 potential noncitizens. meantime civil rights groups including the american civil liberties union have filed a lawsuit to block the purge and claims it violates the voting rights acts and that accusation was made by the justice department also two weeks ago. michael waldman of the brennan center for justice. nice to have you. >> nice to be here. >> the original one people look back to is back in 2000. how does what we're looking at in 2012 compare to the 2000 purge which focused on a felony purge? >> when it comes to messed up voter purges and messed up elections florida -- >> leading the way. >> people say what's the next florida when it comes to election messes and always turns out to be florida. so in 2000, there was a purge of voters who supposedly had felony convictions and it turned out that a lot of them didn't. they were eligible voters kicked off the rolls and in fact it was so many, it was more than the margin of victory in the president shl election in florida. >> i heard from 1100 -- not the margin of victory, number of people kicked off the rolls. >> something close to 2,000 i think but that was -- the margin of victory -- >> too much higher in many cases. >> yeah. we want the rolls to be cleaned up. we don't want people who aren't eligible to vote to be on the rolls. the way this is similar, this is a purge of voters. it was launched in secret. it's done too close to the election. it's done without the kind of double checking and chance for people to get to say wait a minute, i'm eligible to vote. we know there's a high likelihood that eligible voters will be kicked off the rolls when it's done this way. not a way to run a railroad and doesn't have to be this way to have fair and accurate elections. >> when i talked to the florida secretary of state, he said we wouldn't have this 90 day problem if they had given us access to the database we needed. >> we don't know for sure exactly how the data base works but what that is is some kind of list supposedly of citizens and zntd have the identifying information that would enable a state to check its voter rolls against the federal list. it's not -- it's designed to keep our borders safe not to see who's eligible to vote. >> i'll play with eric holder said about that particular dhs list. >> the database that i think florida is requesting is not necessarily the answer to these problems. that database does not contain on its rolls or within that database people who were born in the united states. that database will be flawed and could result in the exclusion of people from voting who are native born american. >> what is he talking about? >> again, that was a list of people who came into the country. the question for who can vote, are you a citizen and are you a teen? >> the request for that list -- >> i'll be honest, to me this sounds like what florida is saying with this list more like an excuse than a explanation. if only we had gotten this list we wouldn't be having this problem. the fact is if florida wanteded to or any state wanted to clean up rolls, it would start it earlier and check it against other lists again give people a chance to say, wait a minute, i am eligible to vote. >> is there a list that says these are people, an updated continual, it sounds like it should be possible to do. i'm going to assume everyone around the table and everywhere only people who are citizen -- eligible to vote should be eligible to vote, should vote. we all agree on that. the bottom line, what is the list then or lists that you compare to the voter rolls where you say this person is not eligible, this person is, with computers, one would imagine that would be fairly fast? >> we can do this. we have a long history of messed up elections. i always like the former governor long, who said when i die i want to be buried in louisiana so i can stay active in politics. we have a history here. the fact of the matter is, we're moving away from this kind of ram shackle election system which is based on paper where if every state has a computerized voter list, if we took that list and said the state government, all of them have an obligation to make sure if you're eligible, you're on the list, they would check it against the dmv and social security and checked it against the veterans rolls, there's a lot of lists the government has. it's cheaper than what we've got now and more accurate. if people are worried about fraud, it helps solve that problem. >> you have an archaic system where if you move next door in the same apartment complex, you're kicked off the voter rolls because your address has changed. part of the problem with home for closures trying to figure out also where people have moved and also contributes to it. the bottom line, many of these efforts, it is a solution in search of a problem. okay, that's what it boil down to in many of these particular places. when you have so many folks who say i am a citizen, a world war ii veteran, they say you're not an american and we have evidence to show it. come on. give me a break. >> they are able to take the 30 days to go and prove citizenship. there's a fix, you have a 30-day window to prove or cast a provisional ballot. >> why should we be making eligible citizens allowing elderdy suddenly have to prove they are eligible because some bureaucrat somewhere made a typo in their name. that's unfortunately the situation. this comes on e heels after florida also just passed and governor scott just signed a voter registration law that cracked down on voter registration. it was so illegal my organization brought a lawsuit and federal judge just ruled it illegal. the league of women voters who we represented had to shut down the entire voter registration -- >> and rock the vote. >> and rock the vote and the judge said no way. there's -- this is being done in kind of a political way. it doesn't have to be that way. >> is it all the timing, if they started this 180 days ago you would be fine with it? >> if they started earlier and would be more competent it would be better. the problem is this list is 180,000 people who they are worried are noncitizen and 50% are hispanic in a state where 13% of voters are hispanic. that raises real questions. there's a way to do this that is not nearly as worry some. >> i think that's not the ratio you should be looking at. you should look at what percentage of noncitizens are hispanic. that would be the one to analyze. >> you should be looking at that because the problem in 2000, many who were kicked off were african-americans as well. and so that was one of the issues. the other piece is this here, this refuse to get approval for effort as a result of the voting rights act and purposely chosen not to do it. even when a law was passed last time, scott purposely did not get it certified by the doj. if the folks like me, guess what, you have to protect that right to vote because of these type of shen an gans. >> it's very much -- the changes in florida's laws that we've seen over and over again seem targeted or at least have a bigger impact on minority voters. >> overwhelming impact. nice to have you, thank you very much. >> still ahead on "starting point", facing an uphill battle. but what issue would he talk about? he has to choose one thing to focus on. what white house insiders say it could be coming up. the best selling book "fifty shades of grey", libraries are refusing -- >> it is a ridiculous debate. >> who should decide? the libraries or public. >> the communities or public. >> aren't they called public libraries? >> just saying. >> this is michael's play list, you're watching "starting point." good question, i don't know. 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( older sister ) far. what will you inspire, with the eos rebel t3i and ef lenses, for ron's next project ? learn more at youtube. you're watching "starting point." president obama will face an uphill battle going into the november election against mitt romney and if you look at past presidential elections, he may have a hard time getting a landslide victory. back in 1972 president nixon one won re-election by 23 points. in 19784 president reagan won by what will he be able to accomplish if elected? a member of our "starting point" team. he's also the washington correspondent for a new york magazine and his latest article is out today. spoke to several white house insiders to get a look what a second presidential term with president obama would like look. nice to see you. appreciate it. it's weird not to have you next to me. you talk about this sort of small margin of error. i have to imagine when you come in with these declining margins -- not margin of error, margin of victory, then that means it really shrinks sort of what you can accomplish in your second term. is that fair to say? >> i think so. and if you look at that trend, obama, if he -- if he wins -- and this week probably it's looking less good than it has for much of the winter and spring, he will be the first president to be re-elected by a smaller margin than his first election in over a hundred years. if he pulls it out, he's very likely to win by less than seven points he won by in 2008, so that would be historically unique. it would be the first time it's happened since the start of the 19th century. what i did was look back at recent second-term presidents, what was their re-election campaign like, how did the campaign itself relate to what they were able to do after they were elected, and what were the lessons from nixon in '72 and reagan in '84, clinton and george w. bush. one of the main things that comes out of that, soledad, is how you determine the mandate, how you view the re-election, and what's gotten second-term presidents in trouble throughout history is viewing the second term as some sweeping mandate and overinterpreting the mandate from the voters. >> yeah, but you also right that you can't be great until you're re-elected obviously and it also seems like you can't be grade until you have eight years because it's very hard to get stuff done in the first four years. >> exactly right. i mean we don't really remember the one-termers as terrific presidents. we don't remember jimmy carter and george h.w. bush, the last two one-termers as historic because you can't get enough done in four years, and you really need that second term to consolidate and implement all that you did in the first term. for obama it will be health care and financial regulation and a whole set of issues on foreign policy that really are just getting off the ground by the time you finish the first term. so if you want to be in the history bookings you have to be in the second term. >> walk me through the history books. i'm sure you break it down by domestic policy and foreign policy. domestic policy front, what is it going to tackle if -- and that's a big giant "if" if he's re-elected. >> you object hanly have so muc. thereafter you turch to foreign policy and people start ignoring the president after that. as bill dale will toly told me, cares what he does. we have a unique situation because of the so-called fiscal cliff or taxmageddon. ironically, even though obama, even if he wins, it will be by a small margin, he does have this historic opportunity to weigh in pretty powerfully on the size and scope of government for decades to come because we all -- think everyone in washington believes at the end of the year, they're going to have to put together some major, major tax reform and fiscal bargain to settle all those issues. so that will be the first thing he'll deal with, no matter what. this is a unique election in that we know the very first thing that congress is going to have to deal with when it's over. >> i think if it's a skojd teec term, as far as history, he's going to have to get more aggressive. of course, folks on the right, they would never use the word "centrist." let's be honest. it's not like he's truly being old mr. left. >> i'm sorry. that was funny. >> first of all, it was also true. again, get far more aggressive. but here's the deal. you're going have a split congress either way, and so he's still going to contend with the polarization in washington, d.c. >> that's right. and, frankly, roland, i think, look, if the election were held today, he'd win by a little bit, they'd probably pick up some seats in the house. so under that scenario everything in washington would be a little closer. i don't think he moves to the left if he wins. there's this idea if he wins, he'll be unbound. he'll be the rather solid socialist. history doesn't show that. history shows it's the first term, the first two years when you have a big sweeping vigtry that you can go play to your base. in the second term, usually you are safe to ignore your base because you don't have a re-election. and just look at reagan and george w. bush. reagan was very careful in interpreting his mandate, even though he won a 49-state victory. his aides told him don't go too far to the right. if you look what he accomplished, there were bipartisan successes on tax reform and immigration. that's a much better model for a president whose re-elected than say george. with bush who gets re-elected very narrowly. what does he do? he tries to privatize social security. it ends with a second term with 25% approval rating. i think those two lessons are very important for someone like obama if he wins. >> ryan lizza. we're following some breaking news. the secretary of commerce, we told you about this story. he's been involved in a felony hit-and-run. we'll tell you about that. usually commencement speeches, i've given a few in my day. they're supposed to be uplifting and inspirational. there he is. he goes rogue. kind of a bummer speech. i'll tell you what he said. you're watching "starting point" coming up. why don't you use bengay zero degrees? it's the one you store in the freezer. same medicated pain reliever used by physical therapists. that's chilly. 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"starting point" begins right now. stop sniffing her, please. ♪ >> they play that at every wedding. that would be the commodores, "brick house." that is a good way to start the morning. >> absolutely. that's a good way to start every morning. >> the whole pheromone thing, you're not supposed to lean over. if we need to put up a plexiglass wall, let me know, margaret. >> no. she wants to sit next to me. >> i am fairly confident she does not. she does not today. she does not. our team, row lland martin, margaret hoover is a cnn contributor and the author of "american individualu yuuaisndi. wts will cain is with us. we'll talk plilt call battles. who's more in touch with america's economic pain. the back and forth came after president obama and mitt romney each gave the other's campaign political gift with statements that they made. listen. >> the private sector's doing fine. where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government. >> he wants another stimulus. he wants to hire more government workers. he says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. did he not get the message of wisconsin? american people did. it's time to cut back on the government and help american people. >> not exactly a shocker. president obama in mitt romney's own words started with attack ads. we're going to start with stephanie. you heard the president saying the private sector is fine. then he had to back off of it and say, no, in fact, the private sector is not fine. which is it? is the private sector fine or is the private sector not fine? >> you knonoknow, i think ameri people understand what he said on friday. we have created 4.3 million jobs in the private sector, and the thing dragging us down are the continued layoffs of state and local workers. we even lost tens of thousands of police jobs, fire workers and that's dragging down our economy. so the president was actually speaking to the american people on friday with a solution of the things we can do to strengthen our economy and protect against somewinds coming from europe. he's had a plan for nine months. republicans in congress have refused to take action on it. it's to get teacher back to work, construction workers back to work because of the housing bust, back to work building our roads, bridges, and highways, giving tax cuts to small businesses for hiring and increase wages. these are the types of things we need to do to move our economy, strengthen our economy. there are significant roadblocks not only in washington but in the opponent's presidential race. >> we'll play his comment and his ad. i think when the president says something fine and pretty much immediately afterward says not fine, exact opposite of what he said and david axelrod weighs in on, then there's the attack ad. >> the private sector is doing fine. where we're seeing weakness in our economy had to do with state and local government. >> we've seen layoffs, cutbacks. >> when it's all said and done, i'm make 2g $00 a month. >> i've been looking for a job for two years, haven't found any. >> clearly the president is out of touch if he thinks we're fine and you see people are struggling. do you thing that's a message that works and why not? >> we'd be happy to have a debate about who is out of touch with middle-class americans with mitt romney. i think that the american people understand that the president is trying to move this country forward. he's trying to strengthen or economy. he's the only one out there with solutions of how to do that. mitt romney of how to strengthen the economy, fire more people. he believes that if we fire more teachers, more firefighters, more policemen, we're actually going too grow this economy. even governor walker in wisconsin this weekend disagreed with him. he said mitt romney learned the wrong lessons of wisconsin. but none of this should be a surprise. he did this in massachusetts. he did fire policemen, teachers, and firefighters. and what happened? massachusetts plummeted to 42nd out of job creation. this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. we've seen this before. mitt romney made big promises when he was running for governor of massachusetts in 2002 with his private sector skpernls, big promise to turn the economy around and it didn't work. the state of massachusetts plummeted to 47th out of 50, wang wages went down when they were going up in the rest of the country, jobs left that state, a quarter of a million people left that state because they couldn't find jobs. he's promising the same solutions right now. i think the more they see mitt romney's record, that it didn't work in massachusetts and it's not going to work for the country. >> there's a question they polled with this question. did the stimulus help lower unemployment and 80% said yes and 4% said no. 2% were uncertain. would there be another stimulus? that would be a solution for the crisis we're in right now or the slowly improving crisis we're in right now. what do you think? >> i think those economists said the stimulus worked in stemming off the economic downturn. the economic downturn, according to those economists was much worse than anybody predicted in the fall of 2008. but what the stimulus did is it protected us from going off that cliff. it protected us from falling into a recession and resulted in us saving and creating more than 3 million jobs. but we need to do more that. was the message that the president was communicating on friday. we need to do more. we need to keep our foot on the pedal of this economy and continue do things to help it grow rather than put up roadblocks, and that's the debatd i think we're going to have on the campaign trail. president has solutions that would jump start our economy now, put people back to work. according to independent economists, a million jobs sitting on the table in congress if they would move on the proposals. >> stephanie -- >> unfortunately we need people to put the country ahead of politics and move those proposals forward and so far the house republicans haven't done that. >> let's talk with bay buchanan. nice to see you. >> nice to be here, soledad. >> that actually was fairly controversial too. let me play a little bit of that for you. >> he says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. did he not get the message of wisconsin? the american people did. it's time for us to cut back on government and help the american people. >> was that the message from wisconsin? cut back on firefighters and teachers? >> i think if you had played his whole clip -- soledad, if you played his whole clip, what mitt romney said right before that is obama has no message. his message is the same as it always has been. what has failed in this country, what he said is obama wants more government, more government spending, to enlarge the size of government and the merge from wisconsin is, no, that is not the answer. we do not want more government and more reckless spending. what we want is responsible government. >> but he didn't -- >> if you look right before that, he said he wanted more government hiring and spending. that is the message. >> he goes on to literally say, we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. so his definition of more government is more firemen, more teachers, more policemen. scott walker had to say, actually that wasn't the message of the recall section of my state. >> listen. what we have here is a president who has failed america, who has crushed the hopes and dreams of millions of americans. 8%, more than 8% unemployment year after year. a stimulus that completely failed this country. reckless regulations that are making businesses, closing them, making them completely stagnant. we have people across the country struggling who will never see another job and this man says the public sector is fine. you tell me, soledad. this president is completely clueless about what is going on in this country or he simply doesn't care. i want to know which one. both are leading the country to fiscal ruin. >> here's the -- let me ask you about mitt romney for a moment if i can. >> sure. >> so he basically says he points to the firemen, policemen and more teachers as if hiring those are bad thing for the economy. why are they not correlated with good economic growth? >> listen. clearly every state and every locality decides on how many police, how many teachers, and how many firemen are best for their community. and the reason they can't maintain that number if they are not is because the economy, the overall economy, the money -- the businesses are not there. people are falg, unemployed. that is raising the cost of local and state government. and so they're not able to do all that they want. the key to that turning around is a strong economy. this congressional budget office has made it very clear last week that barack obama's policies have put us at fiscal ruchbl we're facing fiscal ruin. >> you're talking about the -- if you're talking about the fiscal cliff from the cbo. >> yes. >> having read that report it does not say that obama's policies have done that. what they point out is congress has to get its act together or we're going to fall off the cliff. >> oh, my gosh. please, soledad. he's the president of the united states, the most powerful man in the world. it is his -- he has to take some responsibility for the economy that his policies have created after 3 1/2 years. take a little spomt. show a little leadership and give us some answers instead of we're going do more of the same, more of the same. what's going to happen? why do we think we're going to get a different solution unless he totally misunderstands how this economy works. >> how much of a problem is it as people when they're going to turn this comment from mitt romney into a political ad that he's saying we need more firemen. the president says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. is that going to be a problem? is that going to be something that comes back to bite him? >> no. he obviously wanted states to hire who they believe they need to take care of communities. those three groups are critical to society. and don't get me wrong, obama. those groups are hurting as well. they know this economy is not working and they understand where it's coming from. so this idea that obama has no responsibili responsibility, in the own ad he really indicts himself. he says # 450,000 local, state, and governments are being laid off. why are they being laid off. the situation with the slow, slow almost no growth in the country sometimes he is impacting, his policies are impacting what's going on in the state and local. we need a man in the white house who understands how to turn this country around, how to put america back to work. and he proved that in massachusetts. soledad, i want to correct something stephanie said. when he was governor, mitt romney went into the office. the state was number 50. he took it to number 30 for job creation. he went in there looking at a huge deficit. he left with a surplus. if barack obama could do half the job that mitt romney did in massachusetts, this country could be thriving. he's, instead, running dev sits. >> clearly this is going to be an argument that's going to continue for the next five months with everyone arguing on both sides. appreciate your time, ladies. thank you. >> sure. >> we have to take a break. was he horsing around or was it child abuse? 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>> yes, i do. >> what do you like about him? what's so great about him? >> because he's fast running back. >> so just his athletic ability, you think he's just a good guy. >> yeah. >> you must have been devastated when he decided he was going to leave the giants. >> yep. >> you gathered up your money and you told your mom, i'm snlding it in. did you really think he might change his mind? what were you thinking? >> i was thinking he might not change his mind but i just sent it. >> mm-hmm. so, mom, when he says, i need you to write this letter, help me out a little bit because you're 6 years old, that can be challenging letter to write, you mailed it in, where did you send it? >> honestly i sent it to candle stick park. i did. i said brandon jacobs care of the 49ers candle stick park. i said i don't know if he's going to get it. i'll do my best and send it off. >> haend got it. >> yep. >> and he started tweeting about it. >> mm-hmm. >> obviously i'm going to assume he's not on twitter, so someone read it. so what did you think when you started getting tweets back from brandon? what did you think what he was saying? he wrote back a note. i almost cried. i'm trying to hold it in, he was so happy. >> yep. >> he thought that was pretty cool, right? >> yep. >> if you had a chance to talk to him, what would you tell him? >> i would tell him that when are you coming and how are you doing. >> just check in. >> yep. >> a little friendly chitchat? >> yeah. >> you know, brandon is by phone. would you like to talk to him? i'm not kidding. hey, brandon, are you there? >> i am here. >> hi, brandon. i've got my friend joe who i just met who i think is your new best friend. anything you want to say to him while he's sitting here at the table? >> can you hear? >> joe, man, you are afternon inspiration. you gave me so much confidence and pride. you made me feel so much better as a football player as i should have been doing. but you just gave me that extra effort to push that much harder to go to be great and i thank you, you know, for being such a great fan of mine, and i'll always have you in my heart. you'll never go anywhere. i've always got you. >> wow. anything you want to say back while you've gotten him on the phone? >> no. >> now's your chance. tell brandon to come back to new york. >> you can say whatever you want. >> anything you want to tell him? >> i guess this is a good question. what happens now, joe? do you start rooting for the san francisco 49ers? >> yes. >> really? >> so your loyalty is to brandon, not the new york jiecht giants. >> so you're going to cheer for the new york giants but brandon in san francisco. >> yes. >> that might be a problem when they play each other, but other than that, i think that will be good. what happens next, mom? are you going to have a chance to meet up? are you going to san francisco to watch a game? >> i don't know. i have to tell you brandon jacobs gave us a phone call at the house. it was an unreal experience. joe got to talk to him on the phone for a few minutes and he said if he made it back to new jersey that we would have a chance to meet him and he would like to see joe in person, so that would be an unreal experience. >> will you do me a favor and tell me when that happens? i am dying go watch that. that's amazing. >> is brandon still there? >> i am here. i almost put myself in third person. i am still here. >> curious. is that one of the hardest things when you leave a team, when you have so many young fans who really love players like yourself, they wear your jersey and in many ways they're crestfallen when you leave? >> there's so many -- some people absolutely have to. i can't believe this is happening. it's the best feeling. in this case, you know, dealing with, you know sports and business, that this kid was able to, you know, put something together to come up with the concept of our business, i thought that was special, you know. and i can't, you know, say enough about, you know, him and his family. it's a testament to parenthood is what i think. i think julie -- i think they've done a great job parenting, you know, and it shows. >> yes, she has. yes, she has. >> we need more parents like that. >> she's done a great job. he's saying that because he's my biggest fan ever. julie's done a great job. thank you, brandon, for joining us by phone. joe, did you want to say something? >> yes. >> what did you want to say. >> i want to say that he doesn't have to play when they play the giants. >> so he should jut not play at all? >> you don't want him to play? >> no. >> okay. we'll see how that's going to work out. joe and julie, thank you for your time this morning. so great to meet you. sorry the 3:36 was on the short side to hook that up. thank you. >> thank you for having us. >> no texting. >> we're taking a short break. we'll be back in just a moment. 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>> thank you. you know how on commencement speeches they're supposed to can kohn tan inspiration. a speaker at a high school graduation had an uneventful message. take a look. >> you're not special. you're not special. contrary to what your soccer trophy says, your glowing report card, that nice mr. rogers and your batty aunt sylvia, no matter how often your paternal caped crusader has swooped in to save you, you are nothing special. >> well, everybody wants to hear that as they're about to head off into the world. you're nothing special. that's a wellesley high school teacher david mccullough jr. h went on to tell the students all the coddling and praise they've become used to will not last. it brings us right to steve perry. did you like his commencement address? you can see it on line, by the way. >> i didn't like it. i loved it. it's essential. because we project too much time projecting our own insecurities onto our children. what the parents are doing is overcompensating for things they didn't get. they make rules like no dribble basketball or no score soccer so no one feels bad and any time someone feels bad, the world is supposed to stop to make them feel better. what you know in life is there are two ways to make it. you can make a living or you can make a live which is how you change lives. too many people are making a living and not changing lives. >> i agr agree. i absolutely positively agree with you. but is a graduation the place to have a tough love conversation? i think that's sort of a k-12 conversation. the last day when you're sending them out, you say they're not special? >> absolutely. what we're looking at is so many of them thing they did something amazing by graduating high school and getting into college. welcome to the rest of the world, homey. we have to recognize more and more, you have to do more than show up to life. you have to have more game changes as opposed to fans. >> i think it's an amazing point steve makes. we have this whole notion of american exceptionalism. we have folks walking around with an attitude, we're the best. you have to get there. you have to earn something. you have to take the time. i make the point. colleges always say these are our graduates. thurgood marshall, dr. king. they got there after they graduated. not what they did in life. >> this has nothing do with american exceptionalism. this southbound the trophy participati participation. he's talking about the millennial generation, the 30 and unders who feel like they can get a trophy for showing up. what i love, though -- >> you make it a political issue. >> you brought up the political issue. >> roland? >> that's what i speak to. in this whole notion everybody's exceptional. i'm saying you earn it. >> i agree. you've got to earn it. >> ultimately, steve, what do you tell your students? you're a principal. what do you tell them in comments to your class? >> i tell them -- >> is it like that or inspiration. >> i tell them that i love them, but i love them because of what they will do, not because of what they are. when we hold them to a higher expectation they will respond. we send our children off with the expectation that they will change other people's lives. our theme at capital prep is social justice. we've worked our behinds off to create a world-class education. that we gave to them. the rest of it they're going to have to earn. >> see, that's inspirational. >> thatgraduation is the start something, not the end of something. >> tough love steve. >> tough love from steve. this is the latest trend in dating. i think it's so odd but it's true. pheromone parties. literally. you gather up t-shirts and see who's their match by sniffing their scent. i'll explain. you're watching "starting point." back in a moment. ♪[music plays] ♪[music plays] ♪[music plays] purina one beyond. food for your cat or dog. do you have any idea where you're going ? 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corporate profits have risen 58% since mid-2009, so big companies are making money, but they're putting it right back into the bang, not back into the economy. $1.74 trillion in the bank at the end of march. that is twice what is normal. finally businesses need loans to grow. bank lending has been at historically low levels since the end of the recession. small businesses have complained they can't get the loans they need to survive. the private sector is everything from the general electiric all the way down to them. mostly to the middle and bottom end of that size range. soledad? >> thank you very much. ahead this morning if you need a date, you can sniff one out. we're going to take you inside the world of pheromone parties. there is a world of pheromone parties, believe it or not, and there's a theory that says by smelling other people's scents could help you find your true love. your pheromones match. i'm kind of grossed out. you're watching "starting point." we'll be back in just a moment. i and chile lime chicken. ♪ new chef's picks from lean cuisine. er is different but centurylink is committed to being a different kind of communications company by continuing to help you do more and focus on the things that matter to you. that's young jeezy, "my hood." the creator of pheromone party. could someone be attracteded to the opposite sex simply by their smell. people go to these parties and sniff for a love connection. here's how it works. you sleep in a t-shirt for three nights in a row, freeze it in morning. you label it with a number, guests smell it. if they like it, they take a picture with their shirt. if you find that person attractive, grow and talk to them. also with judith this morning is scott thrift. he attended one of those parties. judith, i'm going to start with you. what? like seriously. what? what? what? >> i mean it seemed really obvious to me. >> really? >> yeah. do you want to know how it started? i was on online dating pretty aggressively, and i kept getting into these intense two-month relationships that would fizzle out. after a repeated amount of this happening, you now how they say if you want different results you should do something differently. i went on date with someone i never would have chosen, and we ended up dating for two years. and the thing about him is that he smells amazing to me and i so i was thinking maybe i should be choosing based on smell. i'm obviously choosing the wrong guys but when i choose on smell, obviously here grow. >> how many? >> the first party was 40. second was 120. >> so you went to one of these parties. did you think it was just crazy? did you think --? >> no. i think it makes a lot of sense. i think we're attracted for different things. i wenl to the party for a laugh. judy was a friend of mine. i thought it would be fun. there was a girl at the party i was into but i lost the power of speech. i couldn't speak to her. i wound up leaving the party. >> she was that gorgeous. >> she was that gorgeous. >> that girl was holding my shirt. said, oh, my gosh, that's the girl, can i please get in touch with her and we wound up having a relationship. >> she found you through smell. >> yes. >> so this is the entity that you used to identify. can you pass this so we can show people? so this is a shird that somebody sleft in for three days. >> for the next party. >> and you have it in a ziploced bag and so presumably there are pheromones in here. will do, you want to take a little sniff? how does it smell? >> i'm attracted to it. no. how about you? it's guy's shirt. >> i'm maired. >> so am i. >> that smells awful. >> don't come near me with that. >> i've been married way too long to be sniffing other people's pheromones which to me sounds crazy. are people grossed out by that? we hear the range of comments. we can play it when we ask people what it's like to sniff people's shirts. take a listen. >> uncomfortable. >> confident. >> dirty sheets. >> one smelled like pizza. >> smells like car air fresh never. >> summer rain. >> sort of feels like i'm at a ra -- >> i like that the one that smells like rain or christmas. are you seeing like real -- >> for me it's like an experiment. >> it worked out. you are a success. you dated the person you met through smell for six months. >> i did an it was amazing because i didn't have to worry whether or not she was attracted to me. that was done so i cold get to know her ichb tech lengthually and spiritually. >> but you picked her because she was hot. >> she picked him. >> she was attracted to me. i knew once i started dating her it was like, okay, she's obviously attracted to me. >> if you don't sleep with clothes, do you bring in a sheet? >> you wear a shirt. >> no. >> you make an adjustment. >> this is how you're going to meet all your prospective dates? >> i don't think so. >> no. >> it was a laugh. i don't know. i really enjoyed it. i haven't been invited back. >> are you going do more of these? are growing to create a model or template? >> i'm taking it one party at a time. i'm still so surprised it's so successful. i'm doing two more parties in l.a. and then based on, that i may take a tour. >> this is america. what is your business plan? >> i'm looking for a business partner actually. >> i'm going to test this out. i have my t-shirt that i'm sleeping in. i'm going to see who my match would be. i'll ask my husband if for scientific purposes i could that. i would see if that's someone i would want to be connected to, you know. >> so you're going go to her next party. >> sort of, basically, yes. >> she's going to be a participant. >> i'm going to be a participant. i'm self inviting that thank you for bringing this idea to us. it's so crazy weird, but it will be interesting to see when you have your first marriage. you'll have to let us know. >> i'm sure this is a great guy but not for me. >> have a deejay play james bond. >> i'm married 57b8d i think it's sticky. >> mathew mcconaughey, he was way up on this thing. >> judith, thanks for talking with us. we appreciate it. 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[ female announcer ] only flood insurance covers floods. visit floodsmart.gov/risk to learn your risk. welcome back. time for "end point." who wants to raise their hand. >> i doubt they smelled each other but my parents, 45th wedding anniversary. you do not have to smell someone's clothes to have a successful marriage that lasts. >> i have to tell you i love smelling my children. >> which means the system works. >> i think i do. >> i'm not thinking clearly because the smell was so inadequately matched to me that i'm queasy now. what they don't tell you is when you get a bad match how it throws you off for the rest of the evening. >> you're going be jacked all day. >> does it clear up your sinuses? >> i need perfume. >> we'll give you a pass. >> this is called a deep tease. i have my assignment. you have your