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versus nixon. >> when the decision came it came with maximum impact. one decision, unanimous, by the chief justice. >> tonight, the inexcusable weight for a trump immunity decision from the supreme court. then -- >> they are great people. great people with a great reputation, i have to say. >> one of the presidents big evangelical boosters resigns after admitting he abused a 12- year-old girl. plus -- >> i think you will get a higher vote than any republican since eisenhower. >> those are winning numbers. those are numbers that say donald trump will be the next president of the united states. >> fox news priming the pump for another stolen election conspiracy. and as trump once again attacks vaccines day >> when you come to the rally as with any event you assume a personal risk. >> a reminder of the deadly superspreader rally four years ago, when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. it is that time of year when donald trump's right wing supreme court waits until the very end of the year to bludgeon us with their decisions. there are 21 opinions remaining. we are all holding our breath for one in particular that has a kind of clock ticking. of course that is trump versus the united states. the former president's claim that he is immune from being criminally prosecuted for anything he did in the white house. all of the justices are adult, grown human beings that can read the newspaper and know that time is of the essence. we are less than five months away from the election when donald trump will have basically a 50-50 shot at taking back the oval office. but at every turn this court, the conservative majority of this court, one has to imagine, has dragged its feet. the federal case against donald trump for his attempt to overtake the election charges him with four felony counts including conspiracy to defraud the united states. it has been on hold for more than six months. the judge in that case, the federal district judge, was forced to pause the case on december 13 of last year amid trump's immunity appeal. that was 189 days ago. the supreme court finally agreed to take the case on february 28. they heard arguments at the end of april and we are still waiting. 112 days have passed with nothing. no decision from the supreme court. no movement toward a trial that can hold donald trump accountable for his attempted insurrection and also demonstrate to voters whether the man is guilty or not guilty of the grave crimes with which he is charged. now to be clear as we often set on the show, the wheels of justice to move slowly, but this is not normal. as law professor leah litman put it in an opinion piece to the new york times today, something is rotten about the justices taking so long. she goes on to explain, quote, mr. trump's lawyers put together a set of arguments that are so outlandish they should not take much time to dispatch. the wall street journal also notes that this term as a whole is moving at a historically slow pace. according to adam feldman, creator of the scotus blog, the justices are completing decisions at the second slowest rate since the 1946 term. keep in mind each justice has a team of very bright and industrious law clerks assisting them and they only work nine months out of the year. it is also worth remembering the last time the supreme court heard a case this pressing, the direct analog, it involved a corrupt republican president. it was in 1974. it had united states in the title. united states versus nixon and that is when then sitting president nixon claimed he was immune from complying with the subpoena in the watergate investigation because of executive privilege. in that case the supreme court managed to move much more expeditiously. >> good evening. the u.s. supreme court acting as swiftly as it ever has. today it announced it will review the special watergate prosecutor's complete against president nixon. it was just one week ago today when he asked the court to rule on the presidents defiance of a subpoena. it was yesterday when the president's lawyer asked the court not to rush to judgment and allow the case to be heard in the court of appeals. but this afternoon the court said it would hear oral arguments in about five weeks which set the stage for a possible confrontation between the president and the high court on the issue of executive privilege. >> at 3:30 the conference ended. 10 minutes later the chief justice issued a single sheet of paper, setting in motion the biggest constitutional test of presidential power since the civil war. in the case now entitled united states of america versus richard nixon, president, the court agreed to settle the question of whether the president can be compelled to furnish evidence to the special prosecutor. bypassing the court of appeals the court said briefs should be submitted june 21 and replies july 1. the historic argument was set for july 8. >> good evening. the supreme court of the united states today heard three hours of arguments that could very well determine president nixon's chances of staying in office for a full term. there were two principal questions before the court. whether mister nixon can be forced to give up an additional 64 white house tapes to the special prosecutor and whether the grand jury was within its jurisdiction when it named the president and unindicted co- conspirator. the argument centered on the release of the additional tapes. >> a decision is expected in a week or two. before the argument one justice was writing and circulating his ideas. another had his clerk prepare a draft opinion. >> president nixon has not yet responded to the decision in the supreme court today which ruled he must immediately turn over tapes of 64 presidential conversations. in a unanimous decision written by the chief justice, the court rejected 8-0 mister nixon's claim of absolute privilege. >> the court said the claim of absolute village would upset the constitutional balance of a workable government. they said it was a very limited intrusion since presidents will rarely be involved in criminal cases. >> five decades ago the court took less than two months to decide president nixon's case. they agreed to hear the case on may 31, 1974. you see it there. they gave each set of lawyers three weeks to file their briefs and then 10 weeks to reply. they heard arguments on july 8 and 16 days later, just over two weeks, they issued the unanimous opinion rejecting president nixon's claim of executive privilege. in total from start to finish, all done in 54 days. 54 days to decide richard nixon's case and we are still waiting for the outcome of donald trump's after 112 days and counting. these are similar cases with similar urgency. president nixon was making a completely historical and constitutional claim of immunity because he did not want to turn over his tapes in the watergate investigation. the court ruled no, the president is not a king and does not get to ignore the laws. donald trump is once again arguing that the president is a type of king who can do anything and everything including ordering assassination of political rivals and not face prosecution unless impeached and convicted. yet the court drags its feet. members of the court knowing full well that every day they delay makes it less possible that trump will stand trial before the election. leah litman is the author of the op-ed, and cohost of the strict scrutiny podcast with melissa murray and my wife, kate shaw. i love this piece partly because you just walked through the timeline, which inspired us to do so as well. why do you not think there is a good faith explanation here that it is complex or that this court is moving slowly because there is some weird battles happening behind the scenes? >> i think this court has lost the benefit of the doubt and presumption of good faith for any number of reasons. one is that they are more than capable of acting quickly even when there is disagreement. the trump disqualification case out of colorado where the colorado state court took him off the ballot, that resulted in a divided opinion and the court was still able to get it out before super tuesday, before people cast their ballots, and within a month of the argument. here there may be division and the court has taken two months. the arguments in the case i think are way more outlandish than any of the arguments on behalf of disqualifying a president who participated in the january 6 insurrection. add to that the indications of the extracurricular activities like justice alito flying multiple stop the steel flags at his house and all of that i think is more than enough indication that this court cannot be trusted to follow the rules and adhere to the legal process when it comes to cases involving donald trump. >> that point about the colorado case is great. i had forgotten that timeframe. there the clock that is ticking as they got to print the ballots for colorado. they send them out, to mail them and of course the notion was if we don't act he is not going to be on the ballot. so the constraining thing they had to do is if we don't act quickly, donald trump won't be on the ballot. in this it is totally flipped. if we don't act, then nothing happens to our guy and they seem to be taking longer. >> yes, that's exactly right and i think if you go back to the oral argument in the trump immunity case, use our republican justices attempt to interject basically every other possibility into this case, aside from the case they were asked to decide. justice alito floated the possibility to the special counsel's office, what if the president made a mistake? could it be prosecuted then as if the movement was some type of hoops that the former president engaged in. if you look back to the nixon case, the supreme court basically said we don't have to resolve everything related to immunity. all we have to say is presidents aren't immune from criminal process based on some generalized definition of confidentiality. >> this is a key point. there was a pointed question in both cases. does nixon have to turn over the tapes? does donald trump have to stand for a trial? there are all kinds of subpoenas one can imagine maybe a president might be able to keep. all kinds of complicated jurisdiction around executive privilege, which is actually a complicated area. they could've done something. they just were answering the question in front of them very quickly. the question is direct and simple in the same way here, that they could answer if they want to quickly. >> right, absolutely. this court routinely takes the path of not deciding as much as i possibly could in some of the cases. in the recent case involving the cheerleader who was punished for off-campus speech, the supreme court basically said look we are not going to decide everything on when students can punish students, we will just say here that it can be penalized. or the court said we don't have to decide what legal test is going to determine whether this requires just compensation, we're just going to say it is subject to some kind of analysis and send it back to the lower court. so the supreme court could easily say we are not going to resolve the outer bounds of immunity, but whatever the outer bounds of presidential immunity are, it does not include a months long effort to overturn the results of the presidential election. >> there's another detail that is easy to lose sight of, too, which drives me nuts and is the fact that jack smith saw this whole thing back in december and 10 days after the appeal -- after the decision and the appeal was filed, or nine days, he says look. we all know you are not going to rule on this. you are not going to defer, so let's do it now. he asks for this judgment to skip the appellate court and they come back and say no. like they could have taken it then. >> that's exactly right and here you have an example where the supreme court was willing to leapfrog the court of appeals in order to benefit the republicans and give donald trump something he wanted. in the waning days of the trump administration when they resumed federal execution, there was a lower court decision that temporarily enjoined one of the executions. the trump administration went to the supreme court and asked them to intervene before the court of appeals weighed in and the supreme court did that to allow the trump administration to execute one of the prisoners. here the special counsel's as we know it will get to the supreme court, why not just do it? and they refused to do so. >> effect about the world is that samuel alito and clarence thomas are conservatives. they would like to retire under a republican president. they are 74 and 75 respectively and there would be a big difference in their lives, personally if donald trump was elected or not. in the realist sense of what are you going to do with the last part of your golden years, that is something that is clearly the case for both of those men. i'm not saying it affects their decision, i'm just saying that it is a thing out in the world that hangs over them. >> that is absolutely right and the recent secretly recorded conversation, mrs. alito suggested that once justice alito was off the court to get fly whatever flag she wanted . so it seems there are multiple benefits. where he could step down and be replaced by a 30-year-old activist and his wife can fly whatever flag she wants. >> not just whatever she wanted, a specific flag she conjured in her head that is yellow and white and says shame in italian. leah litman, thank you very much. still ahead, the trump spiritual advisor and mega- church pastor who had to step down after molesting a 12-year- old girl. first, four years after his deadly rally in tulsa, donald trump's new plan to endanger the health of fellow americans. that's next. that's next. or a...people person. but he is an "i 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>> ronald reagan use to ask a day >> are you better off? >> are you better off? >> are you better off? >> better off. >> better off. >> better off. >> then you were four years ago? >> it is a question being posed by so many trump supporters. are you better off than you were four years ago as if we don't remember four years ago today. with all this in mind i think it is worth taking a look back at what this country was going through this time in 2020. >> we begin with a chilling statement from the head of the world health organization today that started with the words, the pandemic is accelerating. >> we are struggling inside the hospital to staff our covid patients. our icu patients. >> covid deaths passed a staggering 120,000 today and there is no sign the virus is letting up. >> is a hospital we are overwhelmed. we are at capacity. we are increasing numbers every day. >> there are talks of crisis nurses coming in soon. >> it was amid that context with the virus spreading out of control that donald trump decided to return to the campaign trail. originally has come back rally was scheduled for four years ago today, juneteenth, 2020, in tulsa, oklahoma. the trump administration scheduled to return at the side of the 1921 massacre in tulsa on the holiday commemorating the end of slavery, at least as it was announced in texas. the resounding backlash was so overwhelming that trump had to back off and change the date, so instead the rally was held one day later on june 20, 2020. >> for months now large gatherings have been canceled. no concerts, no stadiums filled with sporting events but tonight in tulsa, oklahoma, and arena is packed with thousands rallying for president trump's reelection. >> the president left late today for a destination he has not seen in 110 days, the campaign trail. >> the event in oklahoma is unbelievable. >> we've seen an increase in positive cases, which we expected when we reopened. >> today we learned six members of the president's advanced team tested positive for coronavirus. >> remember there is no vaccine at this point four years ago, so the fatality rate was like 10 times what it is post vaccine. it was, if nothing else, a preview of what was to come. some supporters lined up to see the president's triumphant return to the trail. >> it is a great honor that trump will choose to come here. >> there is a higher risk, i understand that, but this is an opportunity i will not get another chance in my life. >> we can be as safe as we can and go from there. >> though supporters were egged on by the white house which downplay the obvious risk of holding a large, in-person, indoor rally during a pandemic. >> they will get a mask. it is up to them to make the decision. cdc guidelines are recommended, but not required. at any event to assume a personal risk, that is just what you do. >> that calculation was also apparently made by former candidate herman cain who attended the rally in person. he was hospitalized with covid less than two weeks later. he ultimately lost his battle with the virus the following month. he would not be the only one hospitalized. it was a superspreader event with the public health department conceding it was likely caused by a surge in cases in the following weeks came a -- weeks. donald trump spent part of the rally admitting he told public health officials to slow down testing to make case numbers appear artificially lower. >> we are testing. we are testing. there is a double-edged sword. here's the bad part. when you do testing to that extent you are going to find more people. you are going to find more cases. so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. >> remember, the testing was the problem. knowing about it was the problem, not the thing. just about everything of trump's handling of covid was an unmitigated disaster. tell me, tell me looking at that footage, are you better off today than you were four years ago? 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>> that's right and i have been talking to gateway members and former pastors of the church. he talked about this story all the time. it became kind of like a signature part of his biography that he had this moral failing when he was young and it was around sexual immorality again, with the young lady. in some tellings he would describe himself as a victim, saying that the young lady had a jezebel spirit and had tempted him and in fact that she is the one who made it continue. he tried to stop it and she made it continue. he tells the stories as a way of saying you should be open about your sin and come forward, but in reality we now know he was covering and papering over the reality of child sexual abuse, which is a crime. >> he also has been a prominent member of the evangelical movement. politically influential. there are obviously many evangelical pastors. thousands and probably tens of thousands in this country. this is a particularly connected and powerful individual. >> absolutely, yes. trump's spiritual advisor. he really leaned into the idea of advocating for restoration of christian morality in america through republican politics. you see that with him inviting glenn beck to speak at the pulpit at his church and being aligned with donald trump. i write extensively in the book, he has also gotten very engaged with warning about the dangers children face in schools and i want to emphasize this. the survivor in this case, cindy, doesn't want this story to become about politics. she is primarily concerned with robert morris not being in leadership and attacking the culture that allow this to permeate, but at the same time lots of other people have watched as people like robert morris have warned that teachers and school librarians are a danger to children and have used the language that they are grooming children, because they have books on their shelves and morris preached about that from the pulpit and endorsed specific candidates who would fight against satan's work in school libraries. people who saw that play out are frustrated and outraged now knowing that he is pointing at school librarians. some of these books that were being targeted actually are literature that described grooming as a way of helping kids understand what warning signs to watch out for. so to have him standing at the pulpit warning about this given his history has been, you know, really difficult for people to process and there's a lot of anger among survivors and educators who have been targeted by this rhetoric. >> we know in 2017 he called on a bill as a way to protect the safety of women and children. it would've banned transgender people from using public bathrooms that correspond with their genders. it is important to protect children from sexual abuse. on that i agree. mike, thank you very much. >> thanks, chris. >> mike's excellent new book, they came for the schools, the new war for american classrooms, is out now. i suggest you check it out. strike still to come, how fox news is priming its audience to believe another big lie. that is ahead. ahead. a once-daily td treatment for adults. ♪ as you go with austedo ♪ austedo xr significantly reduced kate's td movements. some people saw a response as early as 2 weeks. with austedo xr, kate can stay on her mental health meds— (kate) oh, hi buddy! 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reality. >> they are telling the audience what they want to hear. but you remember the last time they did that, fox personalities suggested voter fraud was only we could of lost and ended up getting sued for it did let fox to make the largest media defamation settlement of all time, $787 million. the coverage also contributed to the first attempt to overthrow the constitutional public since the civil war. they are doing it again which is dangerous but also potentially cool areas on nights like this. their own voting data gave them an unexpected result. >> president biden gets his best result this election cycle on the head-to-head against former president donald trump. he leads 50% to 48, that is within the margin of error he trailed trump by one point last month all within the margin of error. >> margin of error, folks, margin of error. the president and ceo of media matters for america, they both join me now. let me start with you because i watch a fair amount of box, we have it on and it has been striking to me that inside their programming, the notion that this is a tied race is ludicrous. it is just obviously the case that donald trump is romping and running away with it. it is going to be a 1980 kind of election is that a fair characterization? >> absolutely. it's totally fair. they really have cemented who are their audience. it reverberates to a larger that there is no chance that trump can lose. one of them even said that there is no way that anyone that except -- would accepted as legitimate. they validated the very observation and going on one step further than that to build up his paul bunyan chops which is to say not only is he guaranteed to win but he is doing it against all of these odds all of this cheating and all of those things that the democrats are engaging. they have reinforced it and they are ceding the ground for any sort of blips or anything that comes off, they are already building the argument for how he could be declared say, not the winner. >> the thing about this that nerves me, we've seen polling misses in different directions. it's very hard to get a very tight race exactly correct and there is a universe in which donald trump is up by it two or three points by election day and biden wins. >> a few of those races that democrats over perform, and under those conditions it's like , yeah, you have already got, donald trump is not going to accept defeat we've already seen what he's done. it feels like they are packing gunpowder into an explosive. >> the 2020 race was a race overseen by donald trump's justice department. the idea that they are going to accept a race overseen by the biden administration at least on the federal level, it seems impossible. that is kind of what they are preparing their people to give. i think that they are themselves and they keep their viewers in such a bubble so that they are seeing these clips, some of them doctored, you will see biden wandering off and you don't see the person is wandering off to talk to. >> the g7 summit where they have the troopers come down. >> politically it actually makes no sense because the thing that biden benefits from most is rock bottom expectations. i mean i have been consistently outspokenly worried about his age and performance, but he is going to be sending it at the debate just as he was at the state of the union people are going to remember this is in the zombie that i've been told to expect. what they are doing makes no sense unless they really are and not bubble or are so devoted to just stoking the casting of the people and not bubble. >> it does strike me that it's pleasant to hear good news about your candidate. it's just that this works for them to be like donald trump is winning. >> in some ways we don't have to make too many guesses here. what came out during the lawsuit was that they felt like they did not have a choice. in some ways it is even worse and more destructive. they both knew that they were the only voice that could actually tell the truth and actually get some of them to believe it or at least as you know, take some of that gun power out -- powder out. they did the scaffolding for the january 6 insurrection. explicitly undermining the election results are lies in the first two weeks after the results came in. they knew that they were lying, but they also acknowledge that if they don't do this their audience will cannibalize them. that's even more so right now. think about it, fox has always been the center of gravity for that. talk radio as well but it's always been pretty concrete. this is the first election cycle in 25 years. the entire right-wing media is a jumble. there is no center of gravity but they are at least the loudest voice in the room and they can't lose that. what that does mean is that they not only have to toe the line but they have to reinforce it because they know that their audience will come out them. they also know that they are the only ones that can penetrate, it's really terrible. >> the polling operation is relatively sound. >> just the asymmetry of the psychological position the centerleft are just constantly hammering it, constantly nervous, completely neurotic. panicking at every turn. it's completely the opposite. if you told people donald trump might win, there like yeah i know that. >> part of it is neuroticism, part of it is also that democrats and liberals are so self-conscious about their own limitations, their own bubble. this quote about not knowing anyone who voted for nixon, vance who could be the vice president. the thing that has elevated him is that democrats and liberals rushed out to buy his book to understand what had happened when donald trump was elected. fox news viewers don't care about the resentments of liberals and so they have a sense that they are the quote unquote real americans and that either they are a majority or they have a right to be a majority. it almost doesn't compute the idea that the country at large is not seeing what they are seeing. >> the thing they signed 2022 which does keep me a little hopeful is that there was something similar, a huge expectation of the big red wave, it didn't pan out. with the exception of carrie lake, everyone accepted it and then carrie lake sort of accepted it the problem is donald trump is a uniquely benevolent figure. when you rerun it, you may not end up in the same place. that is all in on this wednesday night. >> good evening, i want to start tonight by talking about the evolution of a lie. this is the pin tweet in the twitter account. sticking it to the top of the accounts page means they are proud of this. they do not want this to get lost in th

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