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and coming film mamgers in this country. koerntd for mtv power of 12 this ch is focusing on the election. nice to have you. polls in alabama and mississippi are open in less than an hour while all eyes are on the south today. battling over the significance of the results. now, newt gingrich has put his entire strategy on the line. the southern strategy. rick santorum's camp says they're tamping down his chances and mitt romney says it's going to be doom if the fight north nomination goes to the convention. newt gingrich is leading the new poll 34rks%. mitt romney is in second place with 31%. and because that's within the margin of error they're basically tied. rick santorum is trailing at 24%. joining our panel this morning is bill arm stead. chairman of the alabama republican party. thank you for talking with us. as i mentioned, everybody sort of says everything is on the line. start by characterizing your electorate for me. what are voters in your state looking for, sir? >> well, thank you very much for having me. of course, in alabama as well as throughout the united states people are concerned about the economy and the jobs. we have no doubt that we can make an improvement over what we have now. so as the candidates have crisscrossed our state in the last two or three days i think one of them will have taken some momentum. we've had all three of the top candidates in alabama and they're all speaking about jobs and the economy and, of course, the fuel prices is another thing that we want to talk about simply because we're seeing a rapid increase in the fuel prices today. although when it gets to november, no one knows what's going to be going on at that time. but i think today alabama is going to make a strong statement as to who we think will be the favored candidate to receive the republican nomination. >> you say one of them is going to have the momentum. which one, do you think? at moments it's unclear to me at least. who do you think has the momentum at this stage? >> i think over the last two or three days all the candidates have been crisscrossing alabama. i think the one that has done more come paining than any others, speaker gingrich has been all over the state for one week now, he came in last tuesday and has been campaigning almost nonstop since then. i think he's made good impressions by coming in and do that. alabama like to feel like they're wanted and want to ask for their vote. senator santorum has been in several days. was here last night. of course, our presidential forum as well as speaker gingrich. governor romney has been in some but not quite as much. i think the more attention alabama has paid the more likely you're to get more votes. speaker gingrich is probably in the lead right now. just from that alone. your poll indicates that to be true also. >> some people think that by newt gingrich staying in the race it benefits mitt romney because he does haven't to go head to head with rick santorum. what's your take on that? >> absolutely. i think any time you're splitting a vote as some folks say is being split between senator santorum and speaker gingrich that that gives romney the mobility to continue to track and receive delegates because when it's all said and done, before the day is over, i think that all three of those will share a nice portion of our delegates. but perceived winner is going to be the one who gets the top vote. that's going to give them the momentum. i would say the three of them are not going to be two far apart on the number of delegates they receive but again, perception is everything. whoever comes out on top is going to be the one to get it. >> will cain, chairman. newt gingrich has been totally missing for a good month. is this primary criss-crossed around the country from kansas, colorado, nevada, wherever. we barely heard newt's name but now that alabama and mississippi are on the slate, what is it about newt that you guys find so a participating in mississippi and alabama? >> of course, he's our next door neighbor and we've seen a lot of them over the past and while he did take a backseat for a while he has stumped extentively here for alabama. you would think he was run fog governor here because of his campaigning, going to restaurants, going to church on sunday. he is showing up everywhere. he's got to do extremely well in alabama and mississippi just to stay in the race. >> no surprise that rick santorum is not a big newt gingrich fan. here's what he had to say about him. >> he will do well done here in south carolina, georgia. but he hasn't done well anywhere else. he hasn't finished second place since oregon. we need somebody to run across this country. >> it was kind of hard to hear the audio but the bottom line is that, listen, we need someone who can run across the country and newt gingrich is not that person. is everything on the line? is everything at stake here for newt gingrich? he's been talking a lot about the southern strategy. if he only wins one state or if he does not win one state, is it over? >> well, i think he says he's going on to the convention but, you know, in all reality if he doesn't win mississippi and alabama, i think it's a big bump in the road. i don't see how it goes forward. if he loses one he may go a little bit longer. if he loses them both, i believe he's out of the ball game and then it will be a one to one between santorum and romney. >> last question? >> hi, mr. chairman. you know, newt only got about 43,000 votes on super tuesday. there's been less than 5% of young americans who have voted in this primary season. what would you say to the 45 million young people out there to encourage them to actually get out to the polls and vote, particularly today? >> well, it's all about our future and the rung people have more at risk than anyone else. our objective overall is to defeat barack obama in november because he is a failed presidency. we have to look to see if next generation, what are we going to leave them? are we going to leave them a better country than we have now or are we going to continue to deteriorate as has happened in the last three years. the young people have more at stake than anyone else. i encourage the young people to get out. you're the ones that are going to benefit or be harmed as a result of this election. >> we'll have more information on that a little bit later this morning. chairman, thank you for joining us. appreciate it. see how it all turns out later tonight. coming up at oh we. >> pleasure to be with you. >> likewise, thank you. 7:30 eastern, we're going to talk to jackie cushman. that's ahead. first, look at the headlines. carlos diaz has those. what is that sigh for? >> it's not good news this morning. it's tough news worldwide. gas we're seeing the first major protest in response to sunday's massacre of afghan civilians by a lone u.s. soldier. hundreds of college students in jalalabad demanding an open trial. meantime, a high-level afghan delegation game under attack from militants while visiting the district where the killings occurred. the taliban is threatening to behead any americans in the country as revenge. stops in asia and the middle east, u.n. defense secretary leon panetta says it's a tragic reality. >> war is hell. these kinds of events and incidents are going to take place. they've taken place in any war. they're terrible events. and this is not the first of those events and it probably won't be the last. >> panetta goes on to say the shooting suspect could face the death penalty. now, just ahead at 7:15 eastern, soledad talks with former army psychiatrist dr. paul newhouse and why he says ptsd is likely not to blame in this case. egypt has brokered a truce between israel and palestinian militants in the gaza strip. ends four days of deadly violence. the worst outbreak in months. nearly two dozen people died in israeli attacks in air strikes in gaza which is response to a barrage of rocket attacks in southern israel. parts of southern louisiana hit hard by heavy rains triggered severe floods. 12 to 18 inches fell across the region in just a moatter of hours. lafy yet parish, runtd of people were trapped by flood waters and had to be rescued. there's a state of emergency in effect in lafayette and the st. landry parish. "a.m. house call" this morning, all of you meat lovers, beware. red meat can significantly increase your risk of death. researchers found that on average a daily serving of processed red meat increased the risk of death by 20%. one serving per day of unprocessed red meat still increased risk by 13%. the good news is red meat by half a serving a day can help reverse dangers. prime minister david cameron is about to get a taste of march madness. cameron is in the u.s. for a three-day visit and president obama is taking him to the ncaa first four tournament gain tonight in ohio between mississippi valley state and kentucky. the white house will be releasing the president's tournament picks tomorrow morning. and we have a spoiler alert. "the bachelor" gave out his final rose and a ring last night in the finale. but who did he pick, lindsay or courtney? >> the more challenging one. >> no, she's crazy. all right? i'll just tell you right now. courtney robinson -- >> oops, said that out loud. >> go back to the video. bachelor ben proposed to her. are they still together? no, they're not. they broke up. that's what they revealed in the "after the rose" special. but during "after the rose" special they got together and ben says he plans to marry courtney. >> can i just say if you're breaking up, getting together, breaking up, getting together on the show before the wedding, it's a bad sign. >> it's a bad choice because she's the crazy one. >> going out on a limb there saying that. >> i've been married a long time. i got a little bit of marital advice for people. breaking up, getting together, breaking up, getting together on national television, bad sign. thank you, carlos. still ahead this morning, going to talk about the fallout from rush limbaugh. the number of advertisers who are leaving his show now, over 100. but they're not stopping at rush. rush's show alone. there are other conservative hosts who are also feeling the effects. we'll talk about that. plus, our "get real" to morning, have a bread slip, pink slip. pre-game meal at olive garden turns out to a massive layoff for the entire team. my play list is mary j. blige, "real love." when i grow up, i want to fix up old houses. ♪ [ woman ] when i grow up, i want to take him on his first flight. i want to run a marathon. i'm going to own my own restaurant. when i grow up, i'm going to start a band. 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[ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪ welcome back. new developments to tell you about in that terrible massacre of afghans allegedly at the hands of a u.s. soldier. afghan delegation house fired upon where the killings occurred and in eastern afghanistan hundreds of people protested over those murders. reports there morning that investigators are looking the medical history of the u.s. army staff sergeant who is accuse of killing 16 people including 9 children and 3 women. cnn has learned that he is a 38-year-old soldier. his name has not been released. apparently he was hurt in a vehicle rollover, regular car rollover, in 2010. he suffereded what doctors call traumatic brain injury. they judged him though healthy enough to start a tour in afghanistan three months ago. general john allen told wolf blitz ter suspect's medical history is part of the investigation. cnn's also learn that the suspect's wife and children have been moved to their home off base to washington's ft. lewis for their own protection. dr. paul newhouse, doctor of psychiatry at vanderbilt university. thanks for talking with us more this morning. >> good morning. >> i appreciate it. there have been conversations, as i mentioned, about an injury that this staff sergeant had to his brain, a car accident, apparently the car rolled. what do you think is -- and i get it you haven't examined him, but what is the likelihood that something that was a traumatic brain injury but allowed him to eventually be posted to afghanistan could be linked to this massacre of 16 civilians? >> i think it's pretty unlikely, soledad. i think his injury was probably not very significant and, thus, he was judged to be fit for duty. so i think we're going to learn over the next few weeks or months that this was probably unrelated to this incident. >> so when you start looking into the whys, are you saying there's a likelihood this is a person who is a sociopath? is this a likelihood of someone who just snapped? what is it? >> well, a sociopath or psychopath is somebody who isn't going to fit into the rules of something like the u.s. military and that kind of person would have been likely drummed out or released from the military many years ago. i understand this individual was -- had been in the army for quite some time. so i think a better likelihood is that this person suffered from some severe illness or mental illness that may have come on more recently and perhaps is linked to this terrible incident. >> would that severe illness be some version or some extreme form of ptsd? if you look at the rates correlated to the number of tours that a person has done, they map this out, if you have one deployment, one in ten have some kind of mental illnesses. two deployments, that number drops to one in five. three deploymentdeployments, ju in three. is that what you would be looking senate. >> post traumatic stress disorders a a cluster of symptoms. violence or violence against others is not usually considered part of that diagnosis. so i think it's more likely that we're going to discover that there was some either psychotic illness or delusional condition or some evidence that this person was more seriously deranged or impaired than we would typically see in ptsd. >> so the details of what we know happened in this attack or this early morning, walks off the base, goes house to house knocking on doors. eventually is able to enter a house. massacres the family. moves on to another house. and apparently ended upsetting some of the victims on fire and then goes back to the base and turns himself in. in that sort of nugget of the story, what sticks out to you as a psychiatrist? what do you want to know and what would you start asking about? >> right. so i would start from the position that mass murders of this type often are committed by people seriously ill and this is similar to what we have seen in the united states obviously with number of several mass murders over the last few years. for example, the virginia tech incident and if incident that occurred in arizona with congressman giffords. those individuals turn out to have given off a lot of signals of mental illness or severe illnesses before the incident. i think that's where i would be starting my investigation or my inquiries to learn what happened. >> there was a report that this staff agent apparently had a hard time integrating back to his family after his third tour in iraq and then able to start his fourth tour in afghanistan. is that something you've been looking at? >> i think we are in a new situation for the u.s. army. over the last few weers because we are now having a professional army with multiple deployments, multiple tours in the combat zones. this is something that the army has really not had a lot of experience with until the last decade or so. and previous engagements we were much more focused on single deployments, single period of times, but this is a new situation. so i think the army is really looking to try to figure out how to provide mental health services to people who really have multiple experiences like this. >> dr. paul newhouse is a professor of psychiatry at vanderbilt university. nice to see you, sir. thank you or your time. >> very welcome. still ahead this morning on "starting point," remember this name because this man could be destined to be a reality star. he's one of the cast member of this new show called "the shahs of sunset." is it going to be fabulous or a complete train wreck? it focuses on the children of iranian refugees who are living large in beverly hills. and it's getting "jersey shore" comparisons for good and bad and very, very gad. we'll talk about that. also, "get real," an entire football team is cut at the same time at an olive garden and left, dichd. tell you what happened to them. wee leave wassy will's play list dire straits, "money for nothing." ♪ [ male announcer ] the dodge journey was made to explore the real world. it has under-seat storage to bring everything, available seating for up to seven people to take everyone, and the grip of available all-wheel drive to go everywhere. think of it as a search engine helping you browse the real world. this march, get no extra charge third-row seating plus 0% financing on dodge journey. i'm giving you the silent treatment. so you're calling to tell me you're giving me the silent treatment? ummm, yeah. jen, this is like the eighth time you've called... no, it's fine, my family has free unlimited mobile-to-any-mobile minutes -- i can call all i want. i don't think you understand how the silent treatment works. hello? [ male announcer ] buy unlimited messaging and get free unlimited calling to any mobile phone on any network. at&t. that's "the show goes on," off of dorian's play list. he's good. he's fun. sharp guy, too. let's talk about our "get real" today which is kind of sad. fill up of your bread sticks because you're fired at the end of the dinner. they decided to cut the entire roster all at the same time during their pre-game meal at an olive garden in orlando, florida. it was opening day of the season. the players were planning to strike on a friday so the owner instead fired the first shot. all the owners, i believe, they only make like $400 per game. how much does a national football league player make per game would you guess on average? >> per game, i don't know. what minimum wage in the nfl is a couple hundred thousand dollars. >> they're broke after two years. i'm serious. >> no, that's true. that's a different story though. he gives them the chance to -- they could leave the union and resign with the team. but kind of like, if you're going the strike, you're out. they went ahead, some of the members, decided they would play the game. they played against the orlando predators. those who did not though decide to resign, quick the union and resign were stuck, they were completely ditched by the team. they had to rent a van together and drive back 17 hours in a van. apparently the strike ended the next day, saturday. >> hard core not even bringing them home. >> apparently one of the football players said, the team owner announced this, 20 really big angry guys. he took his life into his hands. >> wow. >> yeah. that's sad, though. all right. ahead on "starting point" this morning, he's moved all his chips into the south, so is it do or die for newt gingrich? we're going to talk to his daughter, jackie cushman. we'll talk to her about what her dad's strategy is now. and, plus, that's not adele, that's taylor swift. i have small children, i know this. she took home a lucrative prize. not all the grammys like adele but all the cash. you're watching "starting point." we're back in just a moment. 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>> well, very excited about bam oba alabama and mississippi. great run in south carolina. incredible one in georgia. carried 61% in his home county. so we're very excited to be here in alabama, mississippi, which are right next door. he's been working very hard, as have all of us in the campaign, to get out and make sure all the vote es know who he is and whate stands for. >> in south carolina, i was there for that. georgia, a huge win. those were a while ago. it's been quite a while since those victories and only two if you count them up. does your father have to win tonight to keep the southern strategy that he's talked a lot about going? >> first of all, the georgia win was just a week ago. it wasn't that long ago. again, we've been campaigning very hard in alabama and mississippi. you never want to say anything is a must win. we feel great momentum here. i was all over lower alabama yesterday and got a great reception. as you know, it is a very close race in both the states and what in the end really matters is who shows up at the polls. we encourage everyone to go to the polls and obviously vote for newt gingrich. >> good morning, ms. cushman. after today when it comes to tomorrow, what is the strategy for your father's campaign outside of the deep south? what happens tomorrow? >> i think a lot of it depends on today, obviously. the next one is louisiana, which is right next door. i was born in new orleans. my dad was at tulane when i was born so we have a lot of contacts and love for louisiana. then we move over to texas and california. as you know, we're basically, after today we're still not quite at halftime for the whole race. we need 11,044 or anyone needs 1,144 delegates to secure the nomination. not only delegates, but they have to be bound delegates to make sure you have the nomination. the halftime in terms of where the race is is about louisiana. so we're not quite there yet. as with all halftime shows, we'll do that, take a breath, see where we are and plan our next two quarters. but as you said, even again last night, he is going all of the way to the convention. he is, in my mind, and in his mind, the only republican who can beat president barack obama because he's only one that's actually balanced the budget four years in a row and cut spending and cut taxes on a national level. he's done what we need to get done. i know that he can do it again. >> jackie, this is will cain. you might be right. maybe he is the only republican who can beat barack obama. i'm having trouble understanding how he's the only republican or a republican who can betemit romney. how can he become the republican nominee? that's what i'm trying to figure out. i can only imagine a year ago when he set out his campaign strategy wasn't designed tonight to be the southern strategy which has now evolve into a deep south strategy since you lost in tennessee. how is that a platform to actually winning the nomination? >> i want to add on to that, does the math really work out because you only have four more states that are winner take all and even though you might be at halftime in terms of actual numbers, can that math really work? >> well, to your point about the math, i'm going to answer both together. a couple of things. because there are many states that are po portional, in the end the question is not just about newt gingrich but who can amass a mess of delegates before the convention. as dad has said before, he is planning on going to the convention. it is important that we choose republican nominee, republican standpoint, that is conservative and that does have a conservative record. mitt romney's team has been talking about for months, that didn't happen. trying the next one, which is he'll end up there anyway. but the reality is in the end you have to have 1144 delegates that are bound before the convention if you want to secure it. and we very well may end up going to a contested convention approximately we' . we'll wait and see. >> you make a good point on the inevitability thing. i need to put that on the words of repeating, inevitability will be another one of those words. here's a little bit of the back ard forth, it's a short list but i think it's going to list. here's the back and forth that happened started over the weekend with your dad sort of saying mitt romney was weak. listen. >> romney is probably the weakest republican front-runner since leonard wood in 1920 and wood ultimately lost in the tenth ballot. >> if i'm a weak front-runner, what does that make newt gingrich because i'm well ahead of him? >> does he have a point? if he's weak and he's the front-runner, he still is the front-runner. >> well, let's look at that, romney operation. they have a much better operation, i give them that. second time he's run for president. he's put over $44 million of his own money into the -- look at both races. he's been around a long time. and the reality, is because he's running again and if he was inevitable, he should have locked it up by now. the fact that he has and the fact we still have several people in a real contest, i think proves dad's point. >> any final questions, andrew? >> hi, jackie, this is andrew jenks from mtv. your dad had the lowest youth vote in all candidates. how do you think he plans moving forward to speak to young people, other than just going to colleges? >> i think he actually had great voter turnout when we look at all voters in south carolina when he won, he was up in terms of voter turnout. when you look at florida, the counties that he won, turnout was up. he does excite the electorate in general. i think you've got a great point. i think he really does need to speak to the younger americans and part of what he is talking about which is so incredibly important, two things. one he talks about paying off our national debt within a generation. right now you and i both owe $50,000. everyone does, of national debt. that is a huge rock around her necks. we need to pay that off. he has a plan that everybody can have their only personalized social security account which means you will actually have social security when you're able to retire and that's very important. there are a variety of things that really appeal to the younger americans but we need to continue to work to get that message out. >> jackie cushman, thanks for being with us. we'll talk to you on the other to see how it all turns out tonight. >> thanks vefor having me on. >> keep your television on now through november for the best political coverage on tv. coverage of the mississippi and alabama primarys will begin at 7:00 p.m. eastern followed by complete live coverage of the results which will begin at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. we should come up with list of the overused political words. ineve inevitab inevitable, do or die. >> pivot. i am done with pivot. >> southern strategy. that might end today. we'll see. we'll see. ahead on "starting point" this morning, you know, we were there and saw a lot of the damage firsthand. take a look at some of these pictures from harrisburg, illinois. leveled by a tornado. seven people were killed. but fema now is denying that town federal help. we'll tell you why. also, a persian version of the "jersey shore." we're going to stalk to one of the stars of "the shahs of sunset." is it going to be a show that shatters stereotypes or a complete train wreck, or both? 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>> bravo. >> is that a guy ? >> yeah. >> i have a handler. >> it will grow. are you really prepared to kind of like have this thing be huge? >> you know, i'm kind of -- i have my feet planted in the ground. my parents raised me right. i have a career. i'm doing this for one reason and one reason only. >> what's that? >> that's to bring some awareness to something that the president of the country i was born in says doesn't exist. homosexuals don't exist in iran. it's super taboo in my culture. if i can force people to have a conversation or i can give one kid who is struggling about coming out to his family a little strength, then it's all worth it. i'll take whatever heat -- >> that's your reason to do the show because you can talk about issues and be out, gay, person on television. >> absolutely. and if i'm going to like personify a stereotype, i want to personify one about loving gold, loving marble, and columns as opposed to wanting to blow things up, being a terrorist, or having a camel in my driveway. >> there are people who make the "jersey shore" -- people don't say a camel in your driveway, really? >> yeah. >> that's sad. there are people who say the show has potential to be like the "jersey shore." i think we have a clip of one of the crazier moments. let's play that. >> we talk [ bleep ] about each other. we fight with one another. >> shut the [ bleep ] up. >> but at the end of the day, what really matters is, they have my back -- love you. >> i love you. >> -- and i have theirs. hello. we're persian. >> why is a persian and not iranian? >> you're the only person that knows how to pronounce it. most people say iranian, eye- i eye-ranian. until americans start pronouncing it properly, i'm persian. just like i have a starbucks name. i don't tell people my name is reza, i'm reza at starbucks. >> do you worry about people saying that you're going to be "jersey shore"? fabulous by successful but there are a lot of people who live in jersey that thinks that show is an embarrassment and an ugly depiction of italian-americans. >> i don't care what anyone -- i can count the number of people whose opinion matters on two hands. >> other persians, other iranians who say, well, you're not reflecting the community as well. >> you said you hope this show advances something that you stand for, which is there are homosexuals, persian homosexuals outside of iran that your former president of your former country ahmadinejad doesn't exist. you do care what people say. the question is legit, do you worry that people have a wrong impression from the show? >> no, because i was not elected to the persian house of representatives. house of representatives and although i think i should represent every -- i mean, hello. i think i should represent a lot of persians, but i don't. i don't. so when they elect me, i'll represent all of them. i take offense to it kind of. >> to what? >> do you think flavor flavor represents you when he's on tv? no, does president obama represent flavor flav. >> he's the only black man on the panel. >> but like because there have never been persians on tv, why do i have to represent all of them? does every latino think j. lo represents them? >> actually, i personally would like j. lo to be my representative. that might be a bad example for you. >> we wish you the very best of luck. >> thank you so much. >> we'll be watching it and following the craziness that looks like we're seeing. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. still ahead this morning on "starting point," some troubling news for president obama. some new polls showing that he is neck in neck with rick santorum and mitt romney. we'll take a look at those polls up next. also, need an excuse to skip work and watch the ncaa tournament. guess a vasectomy. we'll tell you why it's march madness at your urologist. this is not a joke. you're watching "starting point." i'm back in just a moment. ♪ oh! 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>> well, i hope that the panel doesn't buzz me if i'm using the overused words. >> i'm going to write it down. >> that would be a good thing to do. buzz your guests as they use pivot or some of the other words. >> i like that. >> i think that would add some excitement. i think mitt romney does have some momentum right now. i think he's got a very good chance to win mississippi or alabama today. they're all bunched up. it's a big day for mitt romney if he can win one of these two states, it takes away the can he win the deep south? we know we'll win these states in november, but as we march through to the convention it will be very important for mitt romney to show that he can win states everywhere. he's won florida, kind of the south, and then if he wins in mississippi or alabama, he can say i've won in the deep south. >> huge risk for him and opportunities. >> absolutely. >> what are the other implications for the other candidates? let's ignore ron paul. please don't tweet me. he's not competitive. >> ignoring ron paul at your own pearl. >> i know. you're so right. >> we'll talk about the first three people in the polling. i think newt gingrich has a lot to lose here. he's banked everything on a southern strategy. i believe you have to win more states than inside the south. i think even if he wins mississippi and alabama he does get a short-term boost. i'm not sure how much that does to his race. i think it's tough for him to get there. rick santorum has a little bit of a danger zone. he had a big win obviously saturday in kansas. he got a lot of delegates. not a lot of coverage because everybody was focused on mississippi and alabama. if he comes in third, they'll say is newt the conservative? we'll start that story. that's not a story rick santorum wants. he wants a one-on-one match-up. >> let me bring will cain into this conversation. i hear chip talking so he's saying you can have a big giant win for mitt romney or a big giant defeat or one on one. is it always that volatile? >> no, i don't think so. i don't think it's that volatile at all. if you talk about what it means to win the nomination, which is getting to 1144 delegates it takes to walk up on that stage at the republican national convention and accept the nomination for president, i'd love chip's feedback. i don't see a path for santorum or gingrich to make that walk up on stage. they can win the south, mississippi, alabama, gingrich might win, but so what. >> what do you think, chip? >> yeah. he makes a very good point. as far as getting to 1144, mitt romney's got the straightest, shortest path to get there. senator santorum and speaker gingrich have a very long, uphill, windy path of which they must win 70, 80% of the delegates. we were there four years ago. governor huckabee, we did not get out until the night that john mccain received the 1144 delegates to be the nomination. governor huckabee endorsed him and got behind his campaign. i think ultimately mitt romney is going to be the nominee. i think most people think that because of looking at the delegate count. i think if things don't go his way, he still gets there probably about june 2nd when california happens. it's 172 delegates, winner take allstate. that could put him over the top. what we're talking about now is do other people get out of the race before then? i think the question is -- the answer is probably not. >> is the difference -- >> did you hear that stat that he said? he said since santorum or gingrich want to win the nomination, they have to win 70 to 80% of the delegates. >> right. >> that is astounding. >> the math, i think a lot of people have said, doesn't work. my question is, is the big change since when you were running huckabee's campaign in 2008, is it really the super mack money? is that ultimately why people stay in, because the money's there? >> yeah. there's no question. and the calendar has changed quite a bit, too. we were done by march 2nd. so the calendar is longer, more proportional. you used to have to win states to get momentum to raise more money to stay in the game. newt gingrich has won two out of 25 contests and he's still in the game based on one contributors. now that's okay. that's the rules. good for newt gingrich, but he has gotten no momentum from any wins because he hasn't won. there's some states that he came in fourth in but he's still in the race. >> michael steal is quoted as saying a little chaos is a good thing. one of his goals in rearranging that calendar, i should have said that, in addition to one of the big changes is the money is also, duh, the calendar. do you think that -- because he's saying i wanted a brokered convention. when you hear that, what do you think? that's michael steel who used to be the chairman obviously. >> i like michael steel. >> oh, no. whenever someone starts, i like -- i'm going to write that down as one of my phrases, i like. >> bless his heart, i hope you don't buzz me on this. >> you know what that means, chip. >> we know what's coming. this is not good for the party, to go through a brokered convention. i don't think that's what chairman steel's goal was. i think it was make the process a little longer. the last 20 years the nomination's been over in one or two or three states. now we have this very long process but usually we would be good. then we added super pacs to it so no longer do you win states to get momentum to stay in the race. now you just get one or two contributors to write really big checks and you can stay in the whole way and ultimately that may not be good for our nominee. now mitt romney is using it if he's the nominee to his advantage. senator santorum has used this time to his advantage to build a great organization that a lot of people are excited about. speaker gingrich has won two states. as much as i respect him, that's not really a good enough reason to say i still can win the nomination, i've won two states. we have to do more than that. >> chip saltzman joining us. my list is growing, man, with you. got to get to headlines. carlos diaz is back with those. >> got some news coming in. cnn is working to confirm british media reports that rebecca brooks, the former editor of the "news of the world" has been arrested. brooks had been on bail after detectives questioned her last summer on suspicion of phone hacking and corruption in the scandal linked to rupert murdock's media empire. reports say scotland yard has arrested six people on suspicion of conspiracy to pervert the court of justice. brooks and her husband are said to be among them. we're also following developments in afghanistan. the first big protest since sunday's massacre. hundreds of students voices their anger in eastern afghanistan. meantime, the taliban is threatening to behead americans and government vips. defense secretary leon panetta says the incident, while horrific, won't affect the military plan in the region. >> war is hell. these kinds of events and incidents are going to take place. they've taken place in any war. they're terrible events and this is not the first of those events and it probably won't be the last. >> panetta also says the shooting suspect could face the death penalty. the soldier is based at fort lewis in washington state. just ahead soledad talks with hal bernton who looks at increased deployments and mental illness among our soldiers. gas prices rising. regular unleaded is now $3.80. prices have jumped more than 16% so far in 2012. not a penny from fema for tornado battered harrisburg, illinois. the city's request has been rejected. seven people were killed and 98 homes were leveled in harrisburg during last month's deadly storms. the city's mayor says he does not understand the decision. fema claims the state, homeowner's insurance, and local charities can cover the damage. what would you give up to be able to skip work, sit in the recliner, and watch the ncaa tournament. almost anything, right? be careful. because doctors say they see a huge increase in guys coming to get vasectomies. a few days before the tournament begins because it's the perfect excuse. you get the vasectomy, sit in front of the tv, watch wall to watch basketball. many offices across the country even advertise this. clever campaigns like vas madness, some urologists even offer free pizza to patients and a bag of frozen peas to apply to the affected area. >> all right. enough. i'm stopping you. >> i'm stopping. you think i want to talk about this? >> can't you just get the flu? >> that's one hell of a basketball fan, by the way. go state! >> but the numbers bear that out. >> i know. >> how crazy is that? thank you, carlos. moving on. ahead on "starting point," some pretty amazing pictures to show you of flash flooding in louisiana. hundreds of people been rescued. others say it's worse than any hurricane they've ever seen. we'll have the latest on the flooding down south. sandra fluke joins us. she has a new op ed on cnn.com. she says her message is being lost in the noise. we're listening to will cain's play list. bob seger, "hollywood night." ♪ she took his hand and led him along that golden beach ♪ we want to protect the house. right. but... home security systems can be really expensive. to save money, we actually just adopted a rescue panther. i think i'm goin-... shhh! we find that we don't need to sleep that much. there's an easier way to save. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. 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>> well, i've been covering fort lewis for about ten years, and actually what we've been hearing in recent days from the base is, of course, concern that, once again, we have a major war crime linked to joint base lewis mccord. that's because back in 2010 another brigade that went to afghanistan after their return, there were four soldiers who eventually convicted in the killing of three unarmed civilians. and the court martials played out last year with a lot of graphic details, a lot of disturbing testimony about what happened with that unit. and there was a sense in january this year as new troops from joint base lewis mccord prepared to go to afghanistan and some of course went in december, that they could put this behind them and that these units could move forward and perform well as, of course, most of the troops do. and then helper form with honor in afghanistan. >> and on that list, i'm he going to interrupt you there for a second, on that list though, in addition to what you describe coming out of joint base lewis mccord there has been a dozen sooi suicides. they were shot and killed after having mental breakdowns. a soldier killed a park ranger. all of this is very bad news for that particular base. when you talk to soldiers there, are they surprised by this killing of 16 civilians or what are they telling you? >> well, everyone is surprised at something like this. this is really a horrendous act. it appears to be one of the worst if not the worst war crime that we've seen by u.s. troops in afghanistan but the issues that have been bubbling over at joint base lewis mccord i think are reflective of broader strains on the army that have been building over a decade of war. >> specifically what? >> in afghanistan and iraq. the issues -- excuse me? >> when you say it's reflective of broader issues, like what issues? >> well, i think that as soldiers have gone repeatedly to war, there has been an increase in post traumatic stress disorder. we've had issues with trauma particular brain injury. there's been an effort to reach out, to get soldiers to overcome the stigma when they have problems, but at the same time there's a real -- still a sense of frustration among some soldiers or concern that if they do reach out to try to get care, that it will be sort of an end to promotions, an end to their career advancement. so there's been kind of a catch 22. and then specifically at joint base lewis mccord we had issues of soldiers treated for post traumatic stress disorder where it came to a point where it looked like they should be medically retired, and then the doctors who screened them said, oh, my goodness, you don't have post traumatic stress disorder, dropped the diagnosis, and this led to a lot of frustration among some soldiers who had their diagnosis dropped and a major investigation that's been launched by the army surgeon general into the screening practices at madigan army medical center. >> that will be one of the many things they'll focus on as they continue this investigation. thank you for talking with us this morning. we appreciate it. >> sure. thank you. ahead on "starting point," take a look at these bruises madonna on her face. yikes. what is that? 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[ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪ ♪ crazy, me and my baby ♪ barefoot and crazy. surprise, surprise, will cain's play list. >> texas boy. >> you can see our entire play list every morning on our web sight, cnn.com/startingpoint. i'm going to do my blog. back in 2007, of course, it was twitter. in 2009 it was four square. we're talking about south by southwest and its ability to launch hot tech products. we were there friday. so were the folks behind highlight. it alerts you to nearby facebook friends. it's hyped as the next big south by southwest launch. paul davidson is the founder. he joins us from the festival which is in austin, texas. thanks for being with us. i certainly appreciate it. explain to me how exactly highlight works. >> yeah. so highlight is an iphone app that helps you learn more about the people around you. so if you've installed the app and you're standing near me, your profile will show up on my phone so i can see your photo so i know it's you, i can see your name, where you work, the friends we have in common, i can see the other things we have in common like if we're from the same hometown or if we like a lot of the same bands. i can see a history of all the times we've crossed paths before. >> is that going through your facebook profile? >> yeah. you use facebook to log in so we can make sure that everyone's using their real identity. you can add other things to your highlight profile. >> go ahead. >> sorry. i was going to say, the other thing is if i'm walking down the street and my phone's in my pocket and highlight sees someone walk near me who it thinks i might find it particularly interesting, you'll get a push notification. that woman over there knows your sister. or that guy's got 43 friends in common with you. >> so it's all linked through friends versus linked through interests? >> yeah. you know, it uses both because both can be important and meaningful. their privacy settings that allow you to control that. if you only want your profile to be visible to friends of friends, you can do that. you can also have a setting that says even if they're not in my network, if they have a lot of interesting things in common with me, tell me about them too. >> so there's part of that that sounds really, really cool. there's part of that that sounds really, really creepy because i'm not sure i want people to be able to walk down the street and say soledad and i have 50 things in common and there she is. i've been stalking her for the last year and a half. i know you've gotten that push back before. how do you keep that from happening? >> yeah, no, it's a great question. i think privacy's very, very important to us. we think about it all the time. and so there are some things we do to make sure that this is a really fun, sort of safe thing. first thing is entire -- highlight is entirely opt in. if you don't want to share in that sort of way, just don't install the app and that's no problem. it's also important to us that it's based off your real identity and real friends. we have you authenticate with facebook. you can control the privacy settings. another thing to understand is that highlight doesn't share your location with people. what it really does is it says if you're already standing right near me, if you're already around me, i can see a little miniature profile about you. it's like a little bubble floating above your head that tells me more about you. the final thing i'd say about privacy is this is a new form of sharing. we've never been able to do this before. what you often find with these sorts of things is when they're new, a lot of people look at social products and they say, that's kind of weird. that's kind of creepy. i'm not sure i want to do that. that's totally understandable. a subset of people try it out and find out it's fun and rewarding. we saw that with facebook, twitter, linked-in, four square. i think it's a very common thing. yeah, we really care deeply about the privacy stuff so we wanted this to be a fun thing that sits with you throughout the day and runs in the background and makes your day more fun. it helps you remember people's names. it helps you know when your friends are nearby. yeah, the response has been really good. >> all right. paul davis son is the founder and ceo of highlight. congratulations because you're getting all the buzz at south by southwest. we'll see if it continues. >> thank you so much. >> you bet. he's losing his voice. he's on the elevator pitch 100 times. he can't talk anymore. or he's been out partying in south by southwest. still ahead on "starting point," the women is at the center of an emotional national debate of birth control. sandra fluke will join us live with the message she says she has now after the controversy over rush limbaugh and also after testifying in congress. and then from restaurant critic for the grand forks herald to international sensation. how one grandmother, there she is right there, has gone viral even though she says she didn't know what viral meant. you're watching "starting point." back in a moment. ♪ an old man shared some fish stories... ♪ oooh, my turn. ♪ she was in paris, but we talked for hours... everyone else buzzed about the band. there's a wireless mind inside all of us. so, where to next? 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>> she's older now. >> exactly. and grandma has gone viral. not madonna, somebody else. after a glowing review of the new olive garden in grand forks, north dakota, 85-year-old marilyn haggerty is the talk of social media. she's a columnist and a sometime restaurant critic for grand forks herald. she spoke to "glee's" jane lynch who was subbing for piers morgan about her new found celebrity. >> it seems like it's a dream. it doesn't seem like it's real. it seems like something that i'm just sort of -- can't -- i'm going to wake up and this didn't really happen. >> she wrote this glowing review about the olive garden and her son, who's a "wall street journal" reporter, told her about the eat me going viral. she said, what does viral mean? >> that's a good thing in a newspaper. that's a very, very good thing. >> now she's in the "wall street journal" today. >> her review was very cute. why it went viral was some people were bashing reviewing the olive garden. then there was a discussion about the bashing of the review and then a discussion of the bashing of the bashing. >> i have four kids. i love the olive garden. i drink the kiante and they eat. all works out. >> free refills. >> yes. >> all the refills. >> you know what i'm saying. >> they bring out one extra bread. for this table here they would bring out six bred sticks. every refill is just the same out of people at the table. i know this because i used to be a waiter at olive garden. >> oh, interesting. interesting. >> carlos, thank you. we move on to talk about the koc controversy over birth control. the woman is speaking out today. sandra fluke famously was called a slut by rush limbaugh after she testified in front of congress. she was speaking about president obama's policy which would require church affiliated universities and hospitals to provide free contraception to women. this morning she's written a piece for cnn.com. she says the goal is to re-focus the debate. sandra fluke joins us live. nice to see you. thanks for talking with us this morning. i'm going to start by reading a little bit of your op ed that everybody can take a look at at cnn.com. you write this, because we spoke so loudly, opponents of reproductive health access demonized and smeared me on the public airways. these smears are obvious attempts to distract from meaningful policy discussions and to silence women's voices regarding their own health care. you literally have been the person who's been at the center of that storm. how have the last couple of weeks been? >> they've been difficult to say the least, but i'm doing okay. >> okay. what's been the highs and what's been the lows? >> well, it's been very gratifying to receive the support of so many americans who have contacted me to say that they support me and more importantly that they support this policy and believe that women need this affordable access to contraception to an aspect of their basic health care. >> that's the good news. i know in your op ed you write a lot about sort of the stinging commentary, not just by rush limbaugh but by others as well. >> yes. i think one of the other low points in this process has been the misinformation that's being put out to the public about this debate, and that's one of the main reasons that i wanted to city submit the op ed because i wanted people to understand that this is neither government subsidized contraception nor is contraception as incredibly cheap as some people have shared. >> okay. so in the washington times today there's a guy named dr. milton wolf. he's a columnist and a radiologist. he writes this about you. so ms. fluke gets a free lunch. well, not quite. somebody has to pay to increase taxes, higher insurance premiums, and mark my words, increased contraception costs. the government simply transfers those bills to someone else like the janitors at georgetown law, for example, who humbly clean up after spoiled kids. i bet knows janitors buy their own birth control at walmart without whining. ms. fluke is entitled and i'm sure she's worth it. when you read something like that, what's your response to that? >> wow. for starters, the staff at georgetown actually already have coverage of contraception on their insurance and the students are merely asking for the same. but i was actually speaking out about students and about low income women across the country who need access to this care. it's unfortunate that some folks have made it so much about me and my access because that was not what my testimony was about. and i would encourage people to take a look at that testimony. >> sandra, this is will cain. i actually appreciate your desire to move this debate towards a more substantive position. i want to take you up on that opportunity. the conversation is about access, and you used this word several times, access. i hope you and i can agree on one term of this debate. that is, no one is attempting to ban contraception or limit access and make it illegal for women to have this. the debate is about who should be providing it, who should be paying for it. should employers determine what is involved in their compensation, determined in their health care benefits or should the government make certain requirements of employers? can we agree that is what this debate is about? >> not exactly. i think there are multiple ways to limit access. certainly making something illegal would be the most extreme form, but not covering it as a health care benefit the way other types of health care benefits are covered is another way to limit access. and that's what many women across the country are currently experiencing when they -- even if they have insurance, co pays, can be as high as $50 a month which is significant for a woman not making a lot of money. >> couldn't that same logic be applied to so many other things that health care doesn't cover, as far as gym memberships. exercise is important to help. couldn't that logic you're using saying access is denied because it's not being offered to you for some reduced price apply to so many things? >> i think that that's not a fair comparison and most women would tell you that's not a fair comparison. there are many types of preventive health care services that are covered, things like blood pressure medication, for example, and women are merely asking that their health be taken just as seriously. >> san dr. fluke joining us this morning. thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i would add to that, isn't gym membership -- isn't part of her argument if gym membership were covered for other employees? it's covered for other people at georgetown. her point be was the janitors actually get their contraception covered. the gym membership i think is a flawed analogy. >> it focuses on the right question. should employers determine the benefits or should the government be mandating? >> employers determine the benefits for some people and not others. >> determine the benefits. >> the employers determine that as well, but i don't have a big problem with it right now, yet. yet. >> that's a whole other conversation. all right. we're going to keep going here. ahead on "starting point," a family calling for justice after a neighborhood shoots and kills an unarmed black teenager. mississippi voters are heading to the polls. it's happening right now. results there could maybe, maybe clarify the race or alternately could make things even more confusing. going to talk to the chairman of the mississippi gop up next with his predictions. yquil doesn't t. really? 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[ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth! ♪ welcome to the hotel california ♪ ♪ such a lovely place ♪ such a lovely place joe's play list. i thought he would do something about mississippi. he's the chairman, of course, of the mississippi republican party. polls are open in the state. 37 delegates are at stake. it's nice to see you. thanks for talking to us. we thought you'd have some song with mississippi in it, not california. let's start with your predictions for how the day is going to go. how do you think it will end up tonight? >> first of all, we have 40 delegates in mississippi. >> my apologies. >> no, no, that's okay. they revised it not too long ago. i have to be careful not to play pundant too much as chairman, but it looks like it's going to be a close race. our governor, phil bryne, in mississippi who's a very popular governor, very conservative endorsed mitt romney last thursday, and i think that's been a clear shot in the arm for governor romney. from the appearances to me, he's got some momentum for sure because of that and because he's been spending a lot of time in the state campaigning. >> in fact, if we pop the polls up on the screen, you can see he's in first place at 34% in the state of mississippi. newt gingrich right behind him and within the margin of error, i should point out, at 32%. rick santorum is trailing at 22%. do you think -- there's been a lot said about newt gingrich and rick santorum splitting the conservative vote. this is what jeff fox worthy said as he was stumping for mitt romney yesterday. listen. >> we don't elect presidents on personality. we did that in 2008. we elect presidents on substance. it's what their capability is. i mean, he's like a basketball team playing an away game when he's down here, but his capabilities don't change. i think that's what's important. >> is mitt romney benefitting from having both santorum and gingrich in the race, splitting the votes, conservatives? >> well, you know, i guess just from a pure math standpoint, if one of them got out of the race it would benefit governor romney a little bit. but i think to be honest, mississippi republicans, like all these three candidates for various reasons. i think a lot of them like governor romney because they think he's a good manager. he's run a state. i think they think he's an electable candidate. i think they like newt gingrich because he's a fighter, because he's somebody who can express his believes as well as anybody in our party. and i think they like senator santorum because he's been a consistent conservative for years, has fought for a lot of the issues that many of us care about. so i think mississippi voters are doing what they ought to be doing, which is taking this opportunity to get close to these candidates and try to make an informed decision. >> all right. i want to thank you for joining us. joseph is the chairman of the mississippi republican party. thanks. got to get to carol costello. >> hi, soledad. coming your way at 9:00 eastern time we're live in afghanistan following new reports of threats to american troops by the taliban. we're also asking the military what it's doing to protect troops overseas. we'll have a special report in ten minutes. also ahead, what you're paying at the pump and what the candidates' actual plans are for lowering high gas prices. are they just a bunch of hot air or will their plans actually work? guess what, this is just weird. there's a new crime wave sweeping the nation. apparently tide, yes, i'm talking about the laundry detergent, it's a hot commodity. tens of thousands of dollars of this stuff being stolen. apparently tide can sell on the black market for 10 bucks a bottle. we'll tell you what's behind this unusual trend. all that and much more coming up at the top of the hour. >> that is so weird. one law enforcement official was saying they sent that informant in to buy drugs and he offered to buy drugs but i have tide. carol, thank you. we look forward to that. still ahead on "starting point", an unarmed teenager shot dead by a neighborhood watch captain. the captain's claiming self-defense. this morning it's raising a lot of questions fl we'll talk to the attorney for the victim's family coming up next. little o's asting made from carefully selected oats that can help lower cholesterol. is it a superhero? kinda. ♪ [♪...] >> announcer: with nothing but his computer, an identity thief is able to use your information to open a bank account in order to make your money his money. 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